Stat comparison of Bama & barn vs common opponents.

uafan4life

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I thought I would take a look at the stat comparison of Bama and the barn versus the opponents we both played. We have both played 5 teams: Arkansas, Miss st, Ole Miss, LSU, & South Carolina.

Offense:
Against those teams, Bama's offense has:
Rushed 198 times for 866 yards, 4.4 average.
Passed 148 times with 81 completions and 2 ints, for 861 yards, 5 TDs, long of 46.

Against those teams, the barn's offense has:
Rushed 216 times for 827 yards, 3.8 average.
Passed 148 times with 85 completions and 2 ints, for 1130 yards, 9 TDs, long of 38.

Conclusion: These offenses are about equal, even with the loss of Prothro. Neither makes a living nor makes big plays off of the passing game. However, if Brodie had some time, he could be making those big plays. Cox has, for the most part, had the time, but has just not performed. The bottom line is that, against the same 5 teams, these offenses are statistically very close.


Defense:
Against those teams, Bama opponents have:
Rushed 148 times for 449 yards, 3 yard average.
Passed 159 times with 77 completions and 6 ints, for 782 yards, 3 TDs, long of 31.

Against those teams, barn opponents have:
Rushed 157 times for 471 yards, 3 yard average.
Passed 141 times with 82 completions and 3 ints, for 805 yards, 2 TDs, long of 45.

Conclusion: Both defenses have played well against the common opponents, and are as close statistically as the offenses are. The barn has more of a tendancy to give up bigger passing plays, but they are still very equal.


This game, statistically, is a toss-up. Even without Prothro (as most of our games against these opponents were played after we lost Prothro), these two teams are very equal. They beat the same teams, and lost to the same team, which both easily could have beaten.

I think this game comes down to one thing: hunger. Who wants it more. The barn has all but been eliminated from contention for the SEC West race. Even if they beat Bama, they in all likelyhood don't go to Atlanta (LSU would have to lose both games). And, with two losses, a BCS bowl is highly unlikely. If Bama wins, we have a great chance at a BCS bowl, and with an LSU slip-up, are playing in Atlanta for the SEC crown.

This could play two ways: Bama is more fired up than the barn and plays above their heads, or two, there is more pressure on Bama and they play poorly.

Right now, I don't know who wins this game, but I think we have just as good a chance to win as the "the most talented team the barn has ever had" does.
 
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Good job except for 1 point. If LSU loses just 1 of it's remaining games, the winner of the Iron Bowl goes to Atlanta. Bama, LSU and Auburn each have one (SEC) loss. The winner of the IB will finish with 1 SEC loss and if LSU loses one of it's games, they will have 2 SEC losses.
 

uafan4life

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NBF_Bama_Cavalry said:
Good job except for 1 point. If LSU loses just 1 of it's remaining games, the winner of the Iron Bowl goes to Atlanta. Bama, LSU and Auburn each have one (SEC) loss. The winner of the IB will finish with 1 SEC loss and if LSU loses one of it's games, they will have 2 SEC losses.
You're right. Nice catch. I still think it's a coin flip.
 

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uafan4life said:
I thought I would take a look at the stat comparison of Bama and the barn versus the opponents we both played. We have both played 5 teams: Arkansas, Miss st, Ole Miss, LSU, & South Carolina.

Offense:
Against those teams, Bama's offense has:
Rushed 198 times for 866 yards, 4.4 average.
Passed 148 times with 81 completions and 2 ints, for 861 yards, 5 TDs, long of 46.

Against those teams, the barn's offense has:
Rushed 216 times for 827 yards, 3.8 average.
Passed 148 times with 85 completions and 2 ints, for 1130 yards, 9 TDs, long of 38.

Conclusion: These offenses are about equal, even with the loss of Prothro. Neither makes a living nor makes big plays off of the passing game. However, if Brodie had some time, he could be making those big plays. Cox has, for the most part, had the time, but has just not performed. The bottom line is that, against the same 5 teams, these offenses are statistically very close.
I thought I might add that, despite these statistics, Auburn and Alabama's offenses have gone in different directions as the year has progressed. These are very misleading stats.

Cox has not performed? 9-2 TD/INT ratio and 226 a game is not performing? Did you not watch the UGA game?

Auburn's offense is more efficient, more crisp, has better playcalling, a better offensive line, better recievers, a more efficient QB, with only the running backs being equal. They have the best offense in the SEC statistically in almost every category, and obviously...Alabama does not.

With all of that said, I still believe Alabama will win this game. Cox is a soph. and against Bama's great D I believe he'll throw 2-3 INTs.

Just thought I'd point out that these stats are misleading.

Alabama 19 Auburn 13
 

uafan4life

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SaintDeuce said:
I thought I might add that, despite these statistics, Auburn and Alabama's offenses have gone in different directions as the year has progressed. These are very misleading stats.

Cox has not performed? 9-2 TD/INT ratio and 226 a game is not performing? Did you not watch the UGA game?

Auburn's offense is more efficient, more crisp, has better playcalling, a better offensive line, better recievers, a more efficient QB, with only the running backs being equal. They have the best offense in the SEC statistically in almost every category, and obviously...Alabama does not.

With all of that said, I still believe Alabama will win this game. Cox is a soph. and against Bama's great D I believe he'll throw 2-3 INTs.

Just thought I'd point out that these stats are misleading.

Alabama 19 Auburn 13

You do realize that over 60% of these games were played in October and November, when the two offenses had gone in two different directions, don't you?

As far as Cox not performing, I simply said that he was not connecting on the deep throws. Ask any barn fan, and they'll admit that. I was simply stating that against the same five teams, neither Bama nor the barn had any real big plays in the passing game to speak of, and the most likely reason why. I didn't say that Cox wasn't performing well at all.

I don't think these stats are misleading. If most of our games against these teams had been at the beginning of the season, before we lost Prothro, then maybe. However, most of these games came after Prothro was hurt. When our offense was supposedly inept. And if you compare the two games played with Prothro as opposed to without him, the stats aren't that different.

Against the same 5 teams, Bama and the barn have performed almost identically. Bama has slightly better states rushing, the barn has slightly better passing. Defensively Bama has a very slight edge. And these games, most of them at least, have been played in the second half of the season.

The truth of the matter is that Bama's offense hasn't been as inept as it has seemed, as far as moving the ball, we've just had some trouble putting points on the board. And the barn's offense hasn't been as on fire as it seemed, they were padding their stats against cupcakes. Against the same competition, both teams had the same results (W/L), and virtually the same stats, offensively and defensively.

These stats aren't misleading. All they say is that these two teams are evenly matched.
 

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