Sugar Bowl CEO admits he pressured OSU to let the accused players play in the game

[NationalTitles18]

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Dear God. People are so stupid. If you don't agree with someone you're a "hater" or you're picking on them. Whatever. Some people need to evolve a brain.

 

[JDCrimson]

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I personally think this is a case of "good cop bad cop" being played out here. The NCAA and OSU are taking a PR beating for the decision. No one is going to hold anything against the Sugar Bowl for publicly endorsing the kids playing in the game (because for them its business). Them coming out publicly about this could have been construed so as to deflect some of the negativity from the NCAA/OSU.

If that is the case though, it just makes them look worse - meaning the paycheck is more valuable to them than the values of playing within the rules.

 

[RollinTider1335]

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I agree 100%..The NCAA has lost what little respect & fear they had among all the schools within the NCAA..All schools have too do if accused of cheating..Deny any wrong doings, play dumb & lawyer up immediately..Th NCAA has opened a door to it's own demise..I honestly think we're witnessing the NCAA crumbling from within..

I truly hope you are right.
However, I think some (if not many) schools would want to keep them around on the payroll. Collusion within and around the NZAA is my biggest concern. There is a lot of coin to be had in there position (schools and NZAA).

 

[Bama Greg]

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Well, they screwed up the Cam Newton decision so thoroughly, that I think they may have been trying to somewhat make up for it with this OSU decision by letting them play the bowl game. That old saying that "two wrongs don't make a right" seems to have been lost on the NCAA.

The Sugar Bowl doesn't want a blowout game, had we had the option of playing Andre Smith in 2008, I wonder if the blowout would have been in favor of the good guys (Bama). No, our Coaches and powers to be had no choice but to send him home, with the previous weeks loss to Florida, and the loss of Smith, it really handicapped our team. But had we played him, we would have been staring down that same barrel of the gun that got us before.

It just makes me angry at the NCAA that they allow certain teams to skirt the rules, then slap them on the wrist like they do. Hopefully, one day we will form a new alliance and convince the schools that continually are harrassed to join and leave the NCAA and their unenforced favoritism, and create a level playing field.

 

[BigAl5833]

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Yet, most people have a problem with Cam Newton playing. Where's the difference here outside of the size of the infraction? If you're gonna have rules, enforce them, otherwise you've got a Chinese fire drill in regard to the rules and who gets hammered and when. It's too darn selective for my taste and as far as I can see, a level playing does not exist. What you're suggesting furthers the "no level playing field" situation and leaves the enforcement of the rules up to some arbitrary scenario, like money being on the line. It's crap no matter how you look at it.

Not sure what Cam Newton playing has anything to do with what I said. I said it is up to the NCAA to enforce their rules not the Sugar Bowl or any other bowl for that matter. I said I have no problem with the Sugar Bowl wanting both teams at 100 percent and any person that looks at this from the Sugar Bowl perspective would understand their reasoning.

 

[BigAl5833]

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I don't want to put words in BigAl's mouth, but it sounds ot me like he says he has no problem with the actions of the Sugar Bowl, and I don't either. They are protecting their interests and lobbying to have the best players in the game to help their ratings and attendance. However, I do have a problem with the NCAA giving in to pressure from the Sugar Bowl. You can have a problem with them playing and still have no problem with the Sugar Bowl acting the way they did. It's all about perspective.

Said it better than I ever could.

 

[jthomas666]

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The Sugar Bowl pressured the NCAA to ignore the rules--and that's a problem, even if they were protecting their own interests. What if NBC pressured the IOC to let an athlete compete in the Olympics despite testing positive for PEDs because the athlete's presence would boost ratings?? IMO, the Sugar Bowl's actions were roughly akin to lobbyists who pressure Congress to act in one group's interest rather than the nation's.

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

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Typical NCAA response.

NCAA defends Ohio State, Auburn rulings, denies playing favorites - ESPN

The NCAA posted a statement on its website Wednesday responding to its critics. It says "the notion that the NCAA is selective with its eligibility decisions and rules enforcement is another myth with no basis in fact.

Essentially, the NCAA is just saying "Nuh uh!"

 

[RollTide2U]

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I don't fault the Sugar Bowl CEO. For him it's just bidness.

As many have noted, it's unlikely the NCAA would have been so accommodating if the rule-breakers were Razorbacks instead of Buckeyes... :rolleye2:

That's where the problem lies... Not with the Sugar Bowl CEO, not even with OSU... but squarely in the lap of the NCAA and their two-tiered standard system.

I think that before there's always been a two-tiered system as well, but that doesn't explain Auburn. They're part of the SEC - why do they get a pass on Cam Newton's eligibility? It seems that money is more the culprit than anything else.

 

[b2v4ua]

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It's all about the M-O-N-E-Y!

 

[Bama323]

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Typical NCAA response.

NCAA defends Ohio State, Auburn rulings, denies playing favorites - ESPN

Essentially, the NCAA is just saying "Nuh uh!"

I would respond to the NCAA that actions speak louder than words.

 

[Redwood Forrest]

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Typical NCAA response.

NCAA defends Ohio State, Auburn rulings, denies playing favorites - ESPN

Essentially, the NCAA is just saying "Nuh uh!"

LOL. All this time we thought the NCAA was feeling pressure for their stupid rulings. Now we find out they are not feeling pressure about their rulings. They are feeling pressure from us idiots who do not understand the rules. LOL

Cam. I did nothing wrong.
Auburn: We have done nothing wrong.

OSU players: We did not know.
OSU: We have done nothing wrong.

NCAA: We don't know and We have done nothing wrong.

 

[GrayTide]

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If this is the same Paul Hoolahan I am thinking of he was AD at Vandy and Washington and got the axe at both places. Seems like a good fit for the Sugar Bowl Executive. :rolleye2:

 

[bamanut_aj]

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The Sugar Bowl is running a business. This is not a surprise, nor do I find it particularly objectionable. It is not the Sugar Bowl's job to preserve the integrity of the NCAA. That would be the NCAA's job. If the NCAA doesn't think that they should be suspended for the Sugar Bowl, why shouldn't the Sugar Bowl take the same position?

gotta agree. THe Sugar Bowl can plead, bargain, beg all they want. It's the NCAA's call to make the right decision....which they failed to do

 

[capnfrog]

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It didn't seem to phase the Sugar Bowl CEO when Andre was made sit out against the Utes. Where was the pressure on CNS to let him play? Wait!!! we were talking about the integrity of the ncaa.

 

[p'colabamaman]

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I do blame the Sugar Bowl if they tried to influence the NCAA to ignore their rules and let players play who should have been ruled ineligible. I mean, rules are rules regardless of who is favored in them being complied with. The money factor should not have been a consideration.

 

[GrayTide]

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I am of the opinion that in this case it was the responsibility of tOSU to sit the players for the Sugar Bowl regardless of what pressure Hoolahan brought to bear. tOSU is the guilty party in this case not the NCAA or Delaney, this falls squarely on the integrity of school, the AD, and Jim Tressell.

 

[RollinTider1335]

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So does this make Hoolahan and the Sugar Bowl a PIMP?! They are no better than PIMPS and the NZAA is a victim.

(sense sarcasm....Jeez i crack myself up)

 

[BamaRevT]

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SIAP; ESPN is reporting that the OSU quarterback and the other guilty parties are coming back next year. That these in order to play in the Sugar Bowl this year had to sign some pledge that they would be back next year to serve their penalties. WOW !

 

[CrimsonSEC]

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SIAP; ESPN is reporting that the OSU quarterback and the other guilty parties are coming back next year. That these in order to play in the Sugar Bowl this year had to sign some pledge that they would be back next year to serve their penalties. WOW !

Here's that story...Scout.com: Suspended Buckeyes To Play In Sugar Bowl

Tressel...

“If indeed they wanted they wanted to stay a part of the family and be on the bowl trip … they would have to make any decisions based upon their future in the NFL prior to us leaving to go to the bowl game,” Tressel said. “Because we didn’t feel it would be fair to the NCAA or fair to the other people involved in the process if someone were able to participate and then have no consequences down the road. So those decisions were made by our young people and I’m excited to say all of the guys that were involved (will return in 2011).”