“In reality, Nigeria’s conflicts are multifaceted, driven by ethnic rivalries, land disputes and criminality, with religion often secondary,” Kakanda wrote. “While Western media often highlight attacks on churches and Christian communities, the reality is that these terrorists are indiscriminate in their violence.”
The Church Thread: Chapter I Verse I
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Posts here reminding me of my own journey in life…….(narcissistic post….
- spend the better part of 18 years discussing religion away from work
- go to seminary for a Masters
- never, ever discuss religion ever again with anyone
With 99% of people it’s POINTLESS, and I’m not exaggerating. No matter how polite or nice or calm you are, people are ready to strangle you over the fact that if you disagree with them about something, they take it like you’re telling them the Grandma who read them the Bible on her knee was wrong about something and you deserve to die.
Well, she was but it doesn’t make her a bad person.
Let me put it like this: l get the same cringe feeling of despair when someone wants to tell me the old “I studied” as if seminary training isn’t, you know, STUDYING that l get from the “do research” anti-vaxxers (while my specialty is NOT vaccination, I’ve taken 3 high level Immunology courses, one Infectious Disease course and a masters level course in Molecular Diagnostics to go with 30 years of turning out reports on clotting factors).
Now to be clear: that does not automatically make me right and you wrong while discussing a religious subject, but you also have to accept that odds are very high that I have already heard your argument. And one thing you find the higher you go in academia studying it, the more gray exists in a number of areas. (Beyond a physical return of Jesus being prophesied, I cannot tell you anything about the future but Johnny who memorized Revelation can tell you how the 1991 Gulf War fits into it).
The epitaph of “spent 26 years studying, graduated, never used what he’d learned” occasionally depresses me. But it’s more in finding attempts at discussion pointless.
Continue with your lives everyone. (This has come up 3x this week so it’s not just about here).
ETA: much like in politics, people will make up on the spot pretty much any argument on this subject.
- spend the better part of 18 years discussing religion away from work
- go to seminary for a Masters
- never, ever discuss religion ever again with anyone
With 99% of people it’s POINTLESS, and I’m not exaggerating. No matter how polite or nice or calm you are, people are ready to strangle you over the fact that if you disagree with them about something, they take it like you’re telling them the Grandma who read them the Bible on her knee was wrong about something and you deserve to die.
Well, she was but it doesn’t make her a bad person.
Let me put it like this: l get the same cringe feeling of despair when someone wants to tell me the old “I studied” as if seminary training isn’t, you know, STUDYING that l get from the “do research” anti-vaxxers (while my specialty is NOT vaccination, I’ve taken 3 high level Immunology courses, one Infectious Disease course and a masters level course in Molecular Diagnostics to go with 30 years of turning out reports on clotting factors).
Now to be clear: that does not automatically make me right and you wrong while discussing a religious subject, but you also have to accept that odds are very high that I have already heard your argument. And one thing you find the higher you go in academia studying it, the more gray exists in a number of areas. (Beyond a physical return of Jesus being prophesied, I cannot tell you anything about the future but Johnny who memorized Revelation can tell you how the 1991 Gulf War fits into it).
The epitaph of “spent 26 years studying, graduated, never used what he’d learned” occasionally depresses me. But it’s more in finding attempts at discussion pointless.
Continue with your lives everyone. (This has come up 3x this week so it’s not just about here).
ETA: much like in politics, people will make up on the spot pretty much any argument on this subject.
To me it really doesn't matter which group of people is killing the other. It is completely messed up regardless of which group is killing and being killed. There is no place for it in the 21st century.
If it does not matter to you what group of people is killing the other, then why did you reply to my post, which debunks Trump’s lies, and not to the original post quoting Trump’s lies about killing Christians?
Because it's not a lie. It is well documented that a larger number of Christians have been murdered in Nigeria over the last few years. Are they being killed simply because they are Christian or are there other motives/reasons. I don't know the answer to that. I suspect it's a little bit of both political and religious. My post was to point out that any reason they think they have is not sufficient their actions.
If I posted that grass was green you would come back with something like grass is not green, it's a shade of yellow and we shouldn't be growing it anyway since it wastes water.
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US bishops officially ban gender-affirming care at Catholic hospitals
U.S. Catholic bishops have voted to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The decision formalizes a yearslong process for the U.S. church to
And before anyone loses their minds, these people are not banned from receiving care outside the scope of "gender affirming" procedures.
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A federal judge ordered some public school districts in Texas on Tuesday to remove Ten Commandment displays from their classroom walls by next month, a victory for families who had argued that the posters infringed on their religious freedom.
The ruling from Judge Orlando L. Garcia, of U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas, comes after Gov. Greg Abbott signed in June a law requiring school districts to display the Ten Commandments in a “conspicuous location” in each classroom. The ruling applies to 14 public school districts, including ones in Fort Worth, Arlington and Conroe.
Federal Judge Orders Some Texas Schools to Remove Ten Commandment Posters
The judge sided with families of students who had argued that the displays infringed on their religious freedom.A federal judge ordered some public school districts in Texas on Tuesday to remove Ten Commandment displays from their classroom walls by next month, a victory for families who had argued that the posters infringed on their religious freedom.
The ruling from Judge Orlando L. Garcia, of U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas, comes after Gov. Greg Abbott signed in June a law requiring school districts to display the Ten Commandments in a “conspicuous location” in each classroom. The ruling applies to 14 public school districts, including ones in Fort Worth, Arlington and Conroe.
What has always intrigued me about this issue is that if these groups are Christian, then why don't they want to post the Beatitudes? Why pick what can only be accurately described as a Jewish document?
I hate it when politicians use faith/religion to further their personal and/or political goals. It is a sacrilege...worthy of Henry VIII.
I’m still quite good with separation of church and state and always will be, but I hate vague articles like this. What religious freedoms are these people arguing for? If it’s freedom FROM religion, I can understand that, but that’s not what this says.
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Something is changing in an otherwise quiet corner of Christianity in the United States, one that prides itself on how little it has changed over time. Priests are swapping stories about record attendance numbers. Older members are adjusting — or not — to the influx of new attendees. Parishes are strategizing about how to accommodate more prospective converts than existing clergy can reasonably handle on their own.
Across the country, the ancient tradition of Orthodox Christianity is attracting energetic new adherents, especially among conservative young men. They are drawn to what they describe as a more demanding, even difficult, practice of Christianity. Echoing some of the rhetoric of the so-called manosphere, new waves of young converts say Orthodoxy offers them hard truths and affirms their masculinity.
“In the whole history of the Orthodox Church in America, this has never been seen,” the Very Rev. Andrew Damick, an Antiochian Orthodox priest and author in Eastern Pennsylvania, said of the large groups of young people showing up at many parishes. “This is new ground for everyone.”
Orthodox Church Pews Are Overflowing With Converts
“In the whole history of the Orthodox Church in America, this has never been seen,” a priest said about the surge of young men drawn to the demanding practice of Christianity.Something is changing in an otherwise quiet corner of Christianity in the United States, one that prides itself on how little it has changed over time. Priests are swapping stories about record attendance numbers. Older members are adjusting — or not — to the influx of new attendees. Parishes are strategizing about how to accommodate more prospective converts than existing clergy can reasonably handle on their own.
Across the country, the ancient tradition of Orthodox Christianity is attracting energetic new adherents, especially among conservative young men. They are drawn to what they describe as a more demanding, even difficult, practice of Christianity. Echoing some of the rhetoric of the so-called manosphere, new waves of young converts say Orthodoxy offers them hard truths and affirms their masculinity.
“In the whole history of the Orthodox Church in America, this has never been seen,” the Very Rev. Andrew Damick, an Antiochian Orthodox priest and author in Eastern Pennsylvania, said of the large groups of young people showing up at many parishes. “This is new ground for everyone.”
High church denominations are exploding in popularity all over the world. It’s unbelievable how many Catholic Churches are filling classrooms with RCIA students. I’ve never seen anything like this.
Young people are attracted to the liturgy and worship style -- almost Middle Ages! Gives one a sense that Christianity did not start in 1970. Depth and spirituality make a tremendous difference.
You know, it really does. And I'm not one to tell people, "you're doing it wrong." Truth be told, you have to go with what feeds you spiritually. If that's dancing in the aisles with tambourines or picking up rattlesnakes, you do you, pilgrim. Just don't get your feelings hurt when you invite me to participate and I turn you down flat. (Especially the snake thing.)
For me, the "smells and bells" of a proper liturgy is a thing of beauty and I can't think of anything that better prepares a person for worship. I've still yet to go to a traditional Latin mass, but it's on my list.
I love high church music, not to mention an occasional jazz melody thrown in as well.
My wife's nephew joined the Jesuit order several years back and I hope and pray that young men like John are the future of that order. He loves to compose sacred music and when he was doing seminary in St. Louis, he was able to record some of them. Here is one of my favorites:
It gives me chills every time. After some teaching in Houston, he was sent to Boston and that's where he will finally finish up his education. He has been crazy busy, but I'm always on the lookout for more when he has time. I would love to see him focus his personal ministry on sacred music. (I've watched him play Chopin with his eyes closed. His talent is just ridiculous.)
The University of Oklahoma student who received a zero on a psychology essay after citing the Bible is speaking out after claiming religious discrimination. | READ MORE: News Story
Well... Her essay was apparently beyond abysmal and specifically did not follow the rubric given.
And... She didn't cite the Bible in terms of actual verses, she just wrote random Christian platitudes.
Her effort deserved a failing grade.
Her mother being a right wing lawyer of MAGA sympathies certainly played no role as well.
And... She didn't cite the Bible in terms of actual verses, she just wrote random Christian platitudes.
Her effort deserved a failing grade.
Her mother being a right wing lawyer of MAGA sympathies certainly played no role as well.
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