The Decline of the DNC III

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I have no idea what she was trying to say when she actually said something about immigrants wiping her ass, but I sincerely hope she was not advocating actually using immigrants to wipe her ass.
In the larger context, it appears she was talking about a truth that some folks don't want to admit - there are jobs in this country that white people flat out refuse to do. And it should also be noted that four nursing homes in Vermont have been cited for inadequate staffing, which appears to be part of what elicited her remarks.

I'm not taking it as she wants immigrants to come here to wipe our behinds; I'm taking it as "if we don't allow immigrants to come here to do jobs white folks won't do, one of those jobs is working in nursing homes which involves wiping our behinds."

I'm not going to be dogmatic here, but that's what it looks like to me.
 

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I have no idea what she was trying to say; I sincerely hope that it isn't what she ACTUALLY said.
Local news makes it sound like she meant precisely what she said, which is borderline unbelievable:
 
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Her and Joni Enrst need to go on tour together...

Local news makes it sound like she meant precisely what she said, which is borderline unbelievable:
 

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Well for one thing, too many Democrats thought abortion was a national issue based on the mid terms but found out that it absolutely wasn’t in the general election. The only things that really matter in any general election is the economy and national defense.
EVERY bit of evidence accumulated across the decades shows that abortion is an issue that elicits a truckload of emotions and opinions - and doesn’t really move the needle at all in electoral politics. I’ll grant it might possibly could flip a House seat if a ruling came down
right before the vote and a candidate had an extreme “no abortion ever” position. I’ve asked for years for the specific races where it can reasonably be argued that abortion was the knockout issue and the only one anyone ever cites is Todd Akin. But Akin didn’t lose because he was against abortion, he lost because of how he answered a question about abortion, with the cringeworthy “legitimate rape” verbiage. For all her huffing and puffing, Claire McCaskill lost the 2004 MO Governor race to pro-life Matt Blount and her Senate seat to Josh Hawley, right after Kavanaugh got voted onto the bench to solidify the pro-life block. And she didn’t win in 2006 because of abortion, she won against a generally ho-hum incumbent with zero accomplishments as part of a blue wave of frustration with Bush at a time MO was more purple than now. (Remember - Romney carried Missouri the same day McCaskill beat Akin, so again, how does this put abortion as the top issue? Did a bunch of rabid folks who love abortion vote for McCaskill and then vote for Romney in contradiction of their position?)

It is a perfect issue on the Venn diagram that hits all points of science, religion, personal autonomy, and about a dozen other issues, but it has never been the third rail issue pundits like to tell me.

Ronald Reagan ran in the wake of legal abortion with code speak of judges, who would respect “the sanctity of life” - and he opposed it in all instances except to save the mother’s life. He won 44 and 49 states. His designated heir won 40 against the guy who tried to make abortion a national issue.

And Trump managed to get elected after appointing three judges that overturned the abortion precedent in the wake of “now you’ll see, with abortion threatened everyone will come out and vote on that issue” while running against a candidate who made no bones about that particular issue. She lost. He gained percentage points in every single state.

So how, given all of this evidence of the most recent election AND every election previously, can anyone even continue to believe this?

If abortion was ever going to be the kill issue in an election, if you can’t make it one against the guy who appointed three of the judges that overturned it, how in the hell can you ever say it’s a winner?

(The “but states tried to legalize it” is a separate issue in terms of electoral politics. Very few proposals on a ballot to take something away from people will ever pass regardless).
 
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So the party whose hierarchy unanimously thinks Harris lost because she is a black woman should……build the party around the insane musings and fake hood accent of, you know, a black woman…….

And how does she move ahead of Airhead O’Commie in the pecking order of “Women of Color Who Only Make Sense As SNL Characters”?
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So the party whose hierarchy unanimously thinks Harris lost because she is a black woman should……build the party around the insane musings and fake hood accent of, you know, a black woman…….

And how does she move ahead of Airhead O’Commie in the pecking order of “Women of Color Who Only Make Sense As SNL Characters”?
I don't know who Max Burns is, but he's either an idiot or a right-winger trolling the Dems into doing something famously stupid. Of course, if it's the latter, this couldn't possibly work.......right?
 

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I don't know who Max Burns is, but he's either an idiot or a right-winger trolling the Dems into doing something famously stupid. Of course, if it's the latter, this couldn't possibly work.......right?
He's one of these young up and coming Democratic strategists who thinks if he says nice things about non-white liberals, they will not turn on him and call him a "racist" when he does something or says something not in line with the party manual.
 
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He's one of these young up and coming Democratic strategists who thinks if he says nice things about non-white liberals, they will not turn on him and call him a "racist" when he does something or says something not in line with the party manual.
Hoo boy, if that's the case, I'm calling it now: something career-alteringly bad is going to happen to him one of these days. One thing Democrats and Republicans have in common is that neither would recognize loyalty if it smacked them on the ass with a board.
 

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Hoo boy, if that's the case, I'm calling it now: something career-alteringly bad is going to happen to him one of these days. One thing Democrats and Republicans have in common is that neither would recognize loyalty if it smacked them on the ass with a board.
His job is to tell us all when that first “nobody is paying attention poll” is published that it means “Texas is in play!”.
 

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WEAPONIZATION: House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is warning ICE agents that he will see to it that their identities are known to the public including the Cartels, MS-13, and TdA.


I'm not sure what Temu Obama thinks he's going to accomplish with this, but he's bringing the wrong type of attention to himself (and his party.)
 

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I’m old enough to remember when calling her dumb made you racist/sexist/homophobic. Seems like it was just last year.

(Another in the long line of the media saying “no, you’re not seeing what you’re seeing”).
I've seen her get flustered on more than one occasion and I always just assumed she was getting upset because all these "bad people" (i.e. Peter Doocy) were trying to attack her boss. Perhaps I was wrong. That or this is a betrayal worthy of Sammy Gravano.
 

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US Attorney Jeanine Pirro has asked a D.C. judge to jail Emily Sommer, who was released without bail after spitting on Ed Martin, but allegedly violated bond by contacting Martin to threaten him and call him a "cracka ass, jive-turkey redneck" on Tuesday.


I remember this story and saw the video, but I didn't know this loon finally got arrested.
 

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Travis Akers:
I was a Democrat for two decades. I believed in the big tent. I believed we were the party of inclusion, compassion, and intellectual curiosity. I believed we stood for the underdog and defended the right to speak, question, and think freely. But somewhere along the way, something changed.

What used to be a space for honest disagreement has become increasingly hostile to nuance and individual freedom. I watched people who spent their lives supporting progressive causes get shouted down, labeled, or erased because they asked a question or held a viewpoint that didn’t align perfectly with the newest orthodoxy. It only took one disagreement on one issue for an individual to be declared a traitor, a hater, or a bigot.

Tolerance should not be conditional. If we say we welcome diverse voices, then we have to mean it.
But too often, I saw people being pushed out of the tent for thinking independently. Conversations turned into purity tests. Debate became dangerous. Dissent, even respectful dissent, became heresy.

But now, people are leaving. Not because they gave up on justice or equality. They’re leaving because while still believing in those things, the loudest voices in a party I once called home will devour a person for having a singular view that doesn’t align with the influencers and media narrative, no matter how common-sense that view may be.

I remain ideologically aligned with a majority of liberals, but I became an independent after last year’s national election. Not because I’ve changed my values, but because I refuse to participate in a culture that claims to champion tolerance while punishing anyone who dares to think for themselves. I strongly regret contributing to that culture myself, because I used to be one of those people that created it.

But now, for the first time in a long time, I can speak without walking on eggshells or getting phone calls and texts from local and state party leaders. I can ask questions. I can challenge ideas. I can have real conversations, ones rooted in mutual respect and good faith, not in performance or fear of backlash.

True progress requires dialogue, not dogma. It requires the courage to listen as much as to speak. And most of all, it requires creating space where people are not punished for thinking critically or differently.

If Democrats insist on labeling anyone who questions the current orthodoxy as a bigot or extremist, you will drive away those who once fought alongside you. Not out of hatred, but out of exhaustion. Today, too often, it feels like conformity is demanded, and disagreement is treated as betrayal.

Heading into 2026, the choice is yours. Keep silencing and shaming those who don’t fall in line on every issue, or start listening again. Make room for honest conversations. Allow for principled disagreement. Show voters like me that you are still a party of ideas, not just identity.

Because if the tent keeps getting smaller at a time when many voters feel exactly like me, don't be surprised when fewer people show up.
 

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US Attorney Jeanine Pirro has asked a D.C. judge to jail Emily Sommer, who was released without bail after spitting on Ed Martin, but allegedly violated bond by contacting Martin to threaten him and call him a "cracka ass, jive-turkey redneck" on Tuesday.


I remember this story and saw the video, but I didn't know this loon finally got arrested.
Maybe the Dems can get her to take David Hogg's place. They appear to be cut from the same cloth.
 
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WEAPONIZATION: House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is warning ICE agents that he will see to it that their identities are known to the public including the Cartels, MS-13, and TdA.


I'm not sure what Temu Obama thinks he's going to accomplish with this, but he's bringing the wrong type of attention to himself (and his party.)
Accusation: Dem politicians care more about illegals than they do about Americans.

Hakeem Jeffries: Hold my beer. I care more about international drug gangs than I do about Americans.

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