The Decline of the DNC IV

[JDCrimson]

Where was this outrage when the HoR candidate in Huntsville, a Republican did this? Where was this outrage when its been established that Tuberville has essentially done the same thing to run for governor in Alabama?

What about the Republican in Florida who changed their name to looks as if they were an incumbent a few years ago?

Your trolling is getting old...

HOLY CRAP!!!

Asheville NC's Vice Mayor, Antanette Mosley, a Democrat who appears to have cast ballots in BOTH Georgia and North Carolina in 2008, 2012, and 2014...

...HAS JUST FILED FOR RE-ELECTION!!!!!

She also claimed a "homestead tax exemption" in Georgia which is legally ONLY available to those with a permanent residence.

WHAT IS GOING ON???!!!!!

https://twitter.com/x/status/2000923232841384135

 

[arthurdawg]

I read an article detailing the known voter fraud cases over the last few years not long ago. Most of them were Republican voters.

And also... There were only a very small number.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Where was this outrage when the HoR candidate in Huntsville, a Republican did this? Where was this outrage when its been established that Tuberville has essentially done the same thing to run for governor in Alabama?

What about the Republican in Florida who changed their name to looks as if they were an incumbent a few years ago?

Your trolling is getting old...

I think the Ashville situation is a legitimate issue for a news media to investigate. I honestly don't know about two of those things you mention above, but I've always thought the beef on Tuberville is hilarious after:
a) RFK getting elected in NY in 1964
b) Hillary getting elected in NY in 2000
c) Mel Carnahan getting elected in Missouri in 2000 despite being......uh.....DEAD, which one would think was a violation of the US Constitution

(Amusingly, Carnahan was the only one of those three who was by any stretch an inhabitant of his state at least until the plane crash).

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

I've always thought the defense - "well, he did inhabit, he just wasn't alive" - ranked right up there with "the definition of is."


But with all of the bad we say about folks, I always did think it admirable that John Ashcroft, who probably could have won a lawsuit on it (remember: the Senate at the time was 50-50, so we're talking VERY IMPORTANT) didn't bother with it. I met a guy in early 2001 who had grown up with Ashcroft, had even visited with him since the election. I asked him that point, and he said Ashcroft said, "The people of Missouri decided I shouldn't go on, and I accept their choice."

Nowadays?

Ashcroft would be on the air throwing bombs day and night about a stolen election, a stolen seat, and every other accusation he could think of.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Where was this outrage when the HoR candidate in Huntsville, a Republican did this? Where was this outrage when its been established that Tuberville has essentially done the same thing to run for governor in Alabama?

What about the Republican in Florida who changed their name to looks as if they were an incumbent a few years ago?

Your trolling is getting old...

A few counterpoints this fine morning:

1. Tell me you don't know what trolling is without saying you don't know what trolling is.

2. "Whataboutism" is an old Soviet tactic used to deflect criticism. If someone accused the USSR of human rights violations, the Russian response might be something along the lines of "what about the violations in China or Africa? Where is your concern for those?"

This has at least 2 ways of putting an accuser on his or her heels. First, there is the implication the accuser is not really concerned about the wrongful act, but merely has a vendetta against the accused. Second, it can force the accuser to try to distinguish between levels of bad acts...I'm not going after China because its atrocities are (somehow) different from Russias???

"Whataboutism" is a deflection tactic, but the users often don't even realize they are doing it. One person's bad conduct is not excused just because other people got away with the same bad conduct. OTOH, perhaps the conduct isn't bad after all, because it is.........what? Commonplace? Maybe; it's starting to feel that way, anyhow.

It's worth pointing out that this is something we've all been guilty of from time to time, but lately I've been trying to watch for that sort of thing in my responses. Why? Well, it's easy to get called out for it and more to the point, it does nothing to advance the conversation, not on the internet and certainly not in real life. And lastly....

3. Dude, if you are that easily trigged by criticism of Democrats or their party as a whole, why in the name of Jupiter's anus are you clicking on a thread title that guarantees you will soon be reading that sort of thing? If someone came here and started a thread called, "The Pope is the Anti-Christ" am I going to click on it? No. The title gives it away and since I've already read this kind of stuff in the past and found the evidence humorously lacking, I've no interest is reading it again nor arguing with the poster.

Anyway, enough of all that. You and I clearly don't agree on some things, but we've always been cordial with one another. I would very much like for that to continue. Come Friday, there is one thing we will assuredly be in agreement on: kicking the crap out of a football team that most of us don't particularly care for. Have a good day and Roll Tide!

 

[selmaborntidefan]

A couple of guys who want to be President someday - the very white Gavin Newsome and the very black Wes Moore (who Obama wanted as the running mate of Gretchen Whitmer over Kamala last year) - have tried to lance this boil with variants of, "Look, you're wasting your time." But rest assured, the Purity Partisans will drive that car right off the cliff..........remember my comment in the days after the 2024 election that the Democrats WOULD NOT LEARN ANYTHING from the defeat? (This is not just a Democratic thing, what did the GOP actually learn from 2020?).


More evidence.......

Maryland to consider slavery reparations after Gov. Wes Moore's veto is overridden

Maryland will create a commission to study potential slavery reparations in the state, after lawmakers overrode a veto by Democratic Gov. Wes Moore.

apnews.com

Maryland will create a commission to study potential reparations for slavery after lawmakers voted Tuesday to override a veto by Gov. Wes Moore — currently the nation’s only Black governor — that disappointed many fellow Democrats.

Moore said in his veto letter in May that it was a difficult decision to veto the bill, which was a priority of the Legislative Black Caucus of Maryland. But he wrote there has been enough study of the legacy of slavery, and it was now time to “focus on the work itself” to address it.

But Democrats who control both chambers of the Maryland General Assembly decided the commission was needed to better examine how to do that.

“This topic isn’t easy, but, again, without formal study, reparations risk being dismissed as symbolic or unconstitutional, regardless of moral merit,” said Sen. Charles Sydnor, a Democrat.

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Actually, this topic is very easy: it is a political disaster, you're not going to be able to enforce it or actually do it, and the ad makers are going to have a field day with the commercials on this.

It appears to me that Moore knows a disaster in the making when he sees it, but he also has the personal political wherewithal to decide, "I'm not going to let the Idiot Parade just run over me, so go ahead and have your meetings."

Moore might actually have some future potential on a national ticket with those assets, but this won't help anyone else, and it isn't going to happen.

 

[arthurdawg]

A couple of guys who want to be President someday - the very white Gavin Newsome and the very black Wes Moore (who Obama wanted as the running mate of Gretchen Whitmer over Kamala last year) - have tried to lance this boil with variants of, "Look, you're wasting your time." But rest assured, the Purity Partisans will drive that car right off the cliff..........remember my comment in the days after the 2024 election that the Democrats WOULD NOT LEARN ANYTHING from the defeat? (This is not just a Democratic thing, what did the GOP actually learn from 2020?).


More evidence.......

Maryland to consider slavery reparations after Gov. Wes Moore's veto is overridden

Maryland will create a commission to study potential slavery reparations in the state, after lawmakers overrode a veto by Democratic Gov. Wes Moore.

apnews.com

Maryland will create a commission to study potential reparations for slavery after lawmakers voted Tuesday to override a veto by Gov. Wes Moore — currently the nation’s only Black governor — that disappointed many fellow Democrats.

Moore said in his veto letter in May that it was a difficult decision to veto the bill, which was a priority of the Legislative Black Caucus of Maryland. But he wrote there has been enough study of the legacy of slavery, and it was now time to “focus on the work itself” to address it.

But Democrats who control both chambers of the Maryland General Assembly decided the commission was needed to better examine how to do that.

“This topic isn’t easy, but, again, without formal study, reparations risk being dismissed as symbolic or unconstitutional, regardless of moral merit,” said Sen. Charles Sydnor, a Democrat.

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Actually, this topic is very easy: it is a political disaster, you're not going to be able to enforce it or actually do it, and the ad makers are going to have a field day with the commercials on this.

It appears to me that Moore knows a disaster in the making when he sees it, but he also has the personal political wherewithal to decide, "I'm not going to let the Idiot Parade just run over me, so go ahead and have your meetings."

Moore might actually have some future potential on a national ticket with those assets, but this won't help anyone else, and it isn't going to happen.

This. While I feel we need a Dem president next to try and repair / halt the damage done across the government... The Dems don't seem to get it at all. They can't focus on what is squarely in front of them.

Did the FedGov need trimming? Sure... We need to either pay for it or trim it. But the damage to organizations like the NIH that generate a large chunk of the basic science that bring new cancer treatments to the clinic for us to use. The damage done is way beyond the cuts in funding. The proper way is to trim it back XYZ% and make it work (And yeah, easier said than done!) but we are going to lose ground across the world in so many areas. And the money spent easily returned a multiple as an economic driver. The partisan hacks (here's looking at you Russell Vought) are so blinded to how the system actually works...

 

[selmaborntidefan]

This. While I feel we need a Dem president next to try and repair / halt the damage done across the government... The Dems don't seem to get it at all. They can't focus on what is squarely in front of them.

Did the FedGov need trimming? Sure... We need to either pay for it or trim it. But the damage to organizations like the NIH that generate a large chunk of the basic science that bring new cancer treatments to the clinic for us to use. The damage done is way beyond the cuts in funding. The proper way is to trim it back XYZ% and make it work (And yeah, easier said than done!) but we are going to lose ground across the world in so many areas. And the money spent easily returned a multiple as an economic driver. The partisan hacks (here's looking at you Russell Vought) are so blinded to how the system actually works...

Democrats:
The entire Republican electorate is white racists, even when they take a higher percentage of other votes.

Also Democrats:
Let's tick off those "racist" voters EVEN MORE by kowtowing to a PORTION of our most reliable voting bloc, oblivious to how it plays to the viewer watching at home, who will hear, "Really? I've gotta pay for something neither my nor any of my ancestors actually did?"

Btw, I concur with other stuff. The long-lasting damage this regime has done has been in areas such as scientific progress.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/18/politics/democrats-autopsy-dnc

Committee officials involved with the report, which included hundreds of interviews conducted across 50 states, had concerns that it would inflame ongoing tensions within the party at a time when they felt they had begun to generate winning momentum.

Roughly translated: we're made up of a bunch of children, and if we tell them both of them are wrong about something, they'll fight with each other and hurt us.

Not one of them wants to come out and say, "Don't keep getting on the wrong side of 80-20 issues" because they'll start pulling hair and screaming.


In addition, the report criticized aspects of Democrats’ 2024 messaging, saying that the party had failed to respond adequately to voters expressing concerns about public safety and immigration – key issues that Republicans made central to their campaigns.


When your only response is "that's racist" to everything, you don't really have much of a platform.

"Kamala, would you have thrown the border open like Joe did?"
(Crickets....what we were is what we are heretofore and those are racist.......)

 

[selmaborntidefan]

So let's get this straight.....the ringleader of the "Biden Must Go" chorus......is now a FRENCH citizen.

What a fantastic rich white liberal!!!

George Clooney ditches Hollywood culture for France, gains citizenship with wife and twins

George Clooney and wife Amal become French citizens with their twins, trading Hollywood glamor for peaceful farm life in the French countryside together.

www.foxnews.com

 

[CrimsonJazz]

NBC NEWS, translated: "Democrats warned to stop saying stuff they believe out loud before the midterms."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011146600207565218

At the risk of giving Trump way too much credit, I can't help but wonder if he's doing this on purpose. Democrats and Republicans aren't that particularly difficult to manipulate; the press has created a profitable business model around this idea.

 

[75thru79]

Lefty LA pols tout ‘Mansion Tax’ — but less than 1% of $1B has gone to affordable housing

“What they got was a billion-dollar pot of money that can’t be used,” real-estate expert Mott Smith said of taxpayers.

nypost.com

LA lefties this week crowed about the “mansion tax’’ they created to curb homelessness — but forgot to mention the city hasn’t been able to spend more than 1% of its $1 billion pot on housing.

That’s because of a mind-boggling snafu that stems from the fact that while city voters approved the 2023 tax, the progressives behind it failed to include a way to loan the money to developers of low-income housing — the key component of the plan, critics said.

Voters would have to pass a fresh measure to set up a system to dole out loans to developers from the tax pot, they said.

Instead of the tax-generated big bucks flowing into new homes or other supportive brick-and-mortar projects, the bulk of Measure ULA’s spending to date has gone to administrative overhead and legal defense

That includes shelling out the money to staff up bureaucracies, pay consultants and lawyer up to fend off lawsuits tied to the tax itself.

 

[75thru79]

Spanberger’s Californication of Virginia

With control of the governor's mansion and both chambers of the legislature, Abigail Spanberger is set to make Virginia more expensive.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

California has the highest energy and housing costs in the continental United States, the nation’s highest unemployment and poverty rates, and multibillion-dollar deficits as far as the state’s legislative analyst office can see. But Abigail Spanberger, who has just been sworn in as the new governor of Virginia, has apparently seen these results and has decided she wants to inflict on her state exactly what California has suffered under Democratic management.

On her first day in office, Spanberger made Virginia a sanctuary state, like California, by chucking out former-Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s executive order that directed state and local law enforcement agencies to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement officials. Instead of detaining illegal immigrants charged with violent crimes so Immigration and Customs Enforcement can deport them in an orderly and peaceful way, Spanberger intends to release them into the community where they can commit more crimes and where ICE will have to track them down and arrest them in less-than-ideal circumstances, presumably with activists interfering as encouraged by Democrats.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Spanberger’s Californication of Virginia

With control of the governor's mansion and both chambers of the legislature, Abigail Spanberger is set to make Virginia more expensive.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

California has the highest energy and housing costs in the continental United States, the nation’s highest unemployment and poverty rates, and multibillion-dollar deficits as far as the state’s legislative analyst office can see. But Abigail Spanberger, who has just been sworn in as the new governor of Virginia, has apparently seen these results and has decided she wants to inflict on her state exactly what California has suffered under Democratic management.

On her first day in office, Spanberger made Virginia a sanctuary state, like California, by chucking out former-Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s executive order that directed state and local law enforcement agencies to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement officials. Instead of detaining illegal immigrants charged with violent crimes so Immigration and Customs Enforcement can deport them in an orderly and peaceful way, Spanberger intends to release them into the community where they can commit more crimes and where ICE will have to track them down and arrest them in less-than-ideal circumstances, presumably with activists interfering as encouraged by Democrats.

She'll do well.

Until the moment one of her sanctuary model citizens goes full Willie Horton.

Then she'll revert to the charge of racism to distract.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

At the risk of giving Trump way too much credit, I can't help but wonder if he's doing this on purpose. Democrats and Republicans aren't that particularly difficult to manipulate; the press has created a profitable business model around this idea.

The Democrats are idiots on this stuff, but I don't think that entails giving Rage Tweet credit for chess moves, either.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

“As important as it is to defeat Republicans, it’s not good enough to elect establishment Democrats.”
- Bernie Sanders this past weekend.

As a reminder, Bernie Sanders has been in Washington since two weeks before we began Operation Desert Storm.

Of the 535 House and Senate members, guess how many have been in Washington longer than Bernie?
17 (7 house members, 10 Senators who were in the House previously or elected prior to 1991).

Which means Bernie IS the establishment.

 

[Bamaro]

Spanberger’s Californication of Virginia

With control of the governor's mansion and both chambers of the legislature, Abigail Spanberger is set to make Virginia more expensive.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

California has the highest energy and housing costs in the continental United States, the nation’s highest unemployment and poverty rates, and multibillion-dollar deficits as far as the state’s legislative analyst office can see. But Abigail Spanberger, who has just been sworn in as the new governor of Virginia, has apparently seen these results and has decided she wants to inflict on her state exactly what California has suffered under Democratic management.

On her first day in office, Spanberger made Virginia a sanctuary state, like California, by chucking out former-Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s executive order that directed state and local law enforcement agencies to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement officials. Instead of detaining illegal immigrants charged with violent crimes so Immigration and Customs Enforcement can deport them in an orderly and peaceful way, Spanberger intends to release them into the community where they can commit more crimes and where ICE will have to track them down and arrest them in less-than-ideal circumstances, presumably with activists interfering as encouraged by Democrats.

I'm not sure what your 1st paragraph has to do with the 2nd but I agree that sanctuary cities/states is a bad policy. We have immigration laws and we should follow them or change them.

 

[75thru79]

I'm not sure what your 1st paragraph has to do with the 2nd but I agree that sanctuary cities/states is a bad policy. We have immigration laws and we should follow them or change them.

You do realize of course that these aren't "my" paragraphs? They are just cut and pasted from the article. That being said, the first paragraph is about how Spanberger would like to make Virginia more like California and the second paragraph talks specifically about the sanctuary state designation, which California has, that Spanberger wants to implement for Virginia. I don't see the disconnect at all.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

“As important as it is to defeat Republicans, it’s not good enough to elect establishment Democrats.”
- Bernie Sanders this past weekend.

As a reminder, Bernie Sanders has been in Washington since two weeks before we began Operation Desert Storm.

Of the 535 House and Senate members, guess how many have been in Washington longer than Bernie?
17 (7 house members, 10 Senators who were in the House previously or elected prior to 1991).

Which means Bernie IS the establishment.

Good luck convincing the rather small contingent of remaining "Bernie Bros" of this, though. Most seem to have seen the guy for what he really is and have left him behind, but the die-hards are still there doing what they do. (For the record, I have no idea why.) When he lost Jimmy Dore, I knew it was bad. When he lost Joe Rogan, that was the death knell.

 

[Crimson1967]

Not to be cynical, but by vetoing the representations bill Moore can pa

A couple of guys who want to be President someday - the very white Gavin Newsome and the very black Wes Moore (who Obama wanted as the running mate of Gretchen Whitmer over Kamala last year) - have tried to lance this boil with variants of, "Look, you're wasting your time." But rest assured, the Purity Partisans will drive that car right off the cliff..........remember my comment in the days after the 2024 election that the Democrats WOULD NOT LEARN ANYTHING from the defeat? (This is not just a Democratic thing, what did the GOP actually learn from 2020?).


More evidence.......

Maryland to consider slavery reparations after Gov. Wes Moore's veto is overridden

Maryland will create a commission to study potential slavery reparations in the state, after lawmakers overrode a veto by Democratic Gov. Wes Moore.

apnews.com

Maryland will create a commission to study potential reparations for slavery after lawmakers voted Tuesday to override a veto by Gov. Wes Moore — currently the nation’s only Black governor — that disappointed many fellow Democrats.

Moore said in his veto letter in May that it was a difficult decision to veto the bill, which was a priority of the Legislative Black Caucus of Maryland. But he wrote there has been enough study of the legacy of slavery, and it was now time to “focus on the work itself” to address it.

But Democrats who control both chambers of the Maryland General Assembly decided the commission was needed to better examine how to do that.

“This topic isn’t easy, but, again, without formal study, reparations risk being dismissed as symbolic or unconstitutional, regardless of moral merit,” said Sen. Charles Sydnor, a Democrat.

===================

Actually, this topic is very easy: it is a political disaster, you're not going to be able to enforce it or actually do it, and the ad makers are going to have a field day with the commercials on this.

It appears to me that Moore knows a disaster in the making when he sees it, but he also has the personal political wherewithal to decide, "I'm not going to let the Idiot Parade just run over me, so go ahead and have your meetings."

Moore might actually have some future potential on a national ticket with those assets, but this won't help anyone else, and it isn't going to happen.

If I were the cynical type I’d say he vetoed it knowing he’d be labeled an Uncle Tom, thus helping him appeal to whites on a national ticket down the road.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

If I were the cynical type I’d say he vetoed it knowing he’d be labeled an Uncle Tom, thus helping him appeal to whites on a national ticket down the road.

That doesn't really feel like a cynical take to me at this point. In fact, it sounds downright rational here in modern times.