The Delusion Has Reached Epidemic Status

selmaborntidefan

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There’s an old saying that there is no moral victory in defeat. That may be true. But today, the Auburn Tigers reached a place where they haven’t been in a while. It just so happens, it was at the expense of a loss to their very formidable arch rival, the Crimson Tide of Alabama. Indeed, Nick Saban was out coached today. If he’s an honest man, he’ll admit that. Indeed, the Alabama football team was out performed on the gridiron. Indeed, the statistics imply a different outcome than what resulted on the score board. But there was no victory in the “W” column for the Auburn Tigers. Perhaps the more important thing that happened today at Jordan-Hare Stadium was that the team from The Plains, their coaches, and indeed, their fans, reached a level of performance that was awe-inspiring – even to the team they beat. In his post-game analysis, Nick Saban said he couldn’t understand why his Crimson Tide players weren’t up more for the task at hand today. In the end, the only thing that beat the Auburn Tigers was depth in talent and a very healthy football squad on the other side of the field. The Tigers achieved most of the goals they identified that they would have to accomplish in order to end the game with a victory. As ironic as it turned out, those goals were met, but the score didn’t show it. It took the Crimson Tide the entire game - right down to the 1.5 minute ticking off the clock to reach beyond what the Tigers had brought to the table. In the end, the Eagle didn’t turn to turkey – it soared high.





Many have said since the end of the game that today was a repeat of something that happened the first time Coach Pat Dye went up to play the Crimson Tide, under the tutelage of legendary Coach Paul “Bear” Bryant. Dye had been an assistant to “the Bear” early in his career. And he knew Coach Bryant wasn’t known for liking his own coaching staff. When Coach Pat Dye first met Coach Bryant on the field, Coach Bryant uttered words to the effect of, “That’s not a bad little football team you brought up here.” In typical inspirational style, Coach Pat Dye looked him straight in the eye and said, “Coach, I don’t know what you’re talking about. We came up here to smash you in the mouth.” The message was clear then – the message is clear now. But perhaps the most inspiring thing that took place at Jordan-Hare today may not have even occurred in the game itself – rather it may have been what happened after the game. The fans – the Auburn Faithful – didn’t want to leave the stadium. They knew that had the game been able to go on and on and on, that their beloved Tigers would continue jacking up the stakes that would make the team from Tuscaloosa have to reach deeper and deeper into the caldrons of their wealth of talent in order to keep up. And it would be questionable at any given time whether the Tide would have more points on the board than did the Tigers. But as we all know, the game has to end at some point. And it did. And now the Alabama Crimson Tide will fulfill their pre-stated destiny to go and play the University of Florida on December 5th to determine who really is the best team in the SEC – and perhaps the entire country. Meanwhile, the Auburn Tigers were impressive enough in today’s game that maybe, just maybe, they’ll get another look by the boundless number of “other bowls” and they’ll play a post-season game more worthy of their abilities and talent and desire than what may have been on the table before today. The 2009 Auburn Tiger football team should hold their heads high. War Eagle
 

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does the winner of the game get to claim a moral victory, too? I mean, isn't BAMA's morale pretty high also? I'd think we're pretty happy, right? :)
 

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There’s an old saying that there is no moral victory in defeat. That may be true. But today, the Auburn Tigers reached a place where they haven’t been in a while. It just so happens, it was at the expense of a loss to their very formidable arch rival, the Crimson Tide of Alabama. Indeed, Nick Saban was out coached today. If he’s an honest man, he’ll admit that. Indeed, the Alabama football team was out performed on the gridiron. Indeed, the statistics imply a different outcome than what resulted on the score board. But there was no victory in the “W” column for the Auburn Tigers.



Perhaps the more important thing that happened today at Jordan-Hare Stadium was that the team from The Plains, their coaches, and indeed, their fans, reached a level of performance that was awe-inspiring – even to the team they beat. In his post-game analysis, Nick Saban said he couldn’t understand why his Crimson Tide players weren’t up more for the task at hand today. In the end, the only thing that beat the Auburn Tigers was depth in talent and a very healthy football squad on the other side of the field. The Tigers achieved most of the goals they identified that they would have to accomplish in order to end the game with a victory. As ironic as it turned out, those goals were met, but the score didn’t show it. It took the Crimson Tide the entire game - right down to the 1.5 minute ticking off the clock to reach beyond what the Tigers had brought to the table. In the end, the Eagle didn’t turn to turkey – it soared high.





Many have said since the end of the game that today was a repeat of something that happened the first time Coach Pat Dye went up to play the Crimson Tide, under the tutelage of legendary Coach Paul “Bear” Bryant. Dye had been an assistant to “the Bear” early in his career. And he knew Coach Bryant wasn’t known for liking his own coaching staff. When Coach Pat Dye first met Coach Bryant on the field, Coach Bryant uttered words to the effect of, “That’s not a bad little football team you brought up here.” In typical inspirational style, Coach Pat Dye looked him straight in the eye and said, “Coach, I don’t know what you’re talking about. We came up here to smash you in the mouth.” The message was clear then – the message is clear now. But perhaps the most inspiring thing that took place at Jordan-Hare today may not have even occurred in the game itself – rather it may have been what happened after the game. The fans – the Auburn Faithful – didn’t want to leave the stadium. They knew that had the game been able to go on and on and on, that their beloved Tigers would continue jacking up the stakes that would make the team from Tuscaloosa have to reach deeper and deeper into the caldrons of their wealth of talent in order to keep up. And it would be questionable at any given time whether the Tide would have more points on the board than did the Tigers. But as we all know, the game has to end at some point. And it did. And now the Alabama Crimson Tide will fulfill their pre-stated destiny to go and play the University of Florida on December 5th to determine who really is the best team in the SEC – and perhaps the entire country. Meanwhile, the Auburn Tigers were impressive enough in today’s game that maybe, just maybe, they’ll get another look by the boundless number of “other bowls” and they’ll play a post-season game more worthy of their abilities and talent and desire than what may have been on the table before today. The 2009 Auburn Tiger football team should hold their heads high. War Eagle
Now somebody needs to explain this one to me.


We had more first downs, better third down efficiency, a better passing game, fewer punts, fewer turnovers, a better return average, more TOP, and fewer penalties - and this guy thinks Auburn played the better game?

Chris Todd threw for 181 yards - but 72 of that was on ONE PLAY. Auburn rushed for 151 yards but 67 was on ONE PLAY.

So 139 of their 332 total yards - or FORTY-ONE PERCENT - came on TWO PLAYS.

While I"m not trying to minimize the performance the fact remains that without those two plays it was a waxing - even with the extra week off, the hotel shenaningans, and not playing up to our usual abilities.

As far as coaching, turn the tables.

Could Auburn have come back from 14 down on the road yesterday? To ask that question is to answer it.
 

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And what will you hear all week on the talk radio circuit from the Aubies? You will hear about how they controlled Ingram. That is their moral victory. Mark it down and listen. What they don't understand and never will is the Heisman is a great plus for one individual but it's not that big a deal. Now, which is better? One Heisman or championship rings for everyone?
 

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does the winner of the game get to claim a moral victory, too? I mean, isn't BAMA's morale pretty high also? I'd think we're pretty happy, right? :)
that scotch and cigar tasted pretty sweet last night regardless of the lingering bitterness of "knowing" that the aubies "should" have won ;)
 

selmaborntidefan

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And what will you hear all week on the talk radio circuit from the Aubies? You will hear about how they controlled Ingram. That is their moral victory. Mark it down and listen. What they don't understand and never will is the Heisman is a great plus for one individual but it's not that big a deal. Now, which is better? One Heisman or championship rings for everyone?
The proof of the uselessness of the Heisman is found in 1996. The runner-up - and not by much - was a running back named Troy Davis at Iowa State, who rushed for over 2,000 yards in back-to-back seasons.

His team's record? 2-9
 

RT3413

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But perhaps the most inspiring thing that took place at Jordan-Hare today may not have even occurred in the game itself – rather it may have been what happened after the game. The fans – the Auburn Faithful – didn’t want to leave the stadium.
I have NO idea what game this guy watched but it certainly wasn't the one in Jordan-Hare. Anything in Orange and Blue was headed for the vomitoria (exceedingly appropriate term in one of the WORST major stadiums in the SEC IMO) as soon as Woodall left his feet in the end zone to block Todd's Hail Mary....
 

2003TIDE

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Re: Some Thoughts Here

Chris Todd threw for 181 yards - but 72 of that was on ONE PLAY. Auburn rushed for 151 yards but 67 was on ONE PLAY.

So 139 of their 332 total yards - or FORTY-ONE PERCENT - came on TWO PLAYS.
Unfortunately for your argument those plays happened. You can't take them back or ignore them.... Our own coach talks about explosive plays and trying to make them.
 

RamJammer

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Awww who cares- it's just Auburn - they played a great game - let 'em be glad in that. But, fact is we'll beat them next year too - the score's the thing & we've got bigger fish to fry anyhow.
 

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Alabama wasn't out coached, they were out prepared. That was to be expected considering Auburn had over 2X the preparation time. They came out with a lot of tricks and things they had obviously spent a lot of time practicing and as the bag of tricks ran out so did their fortunes.

Auburn had a lot of things go their way and Alabama had a lot of distractions prior to the game. If they catch breaks on the field, get calls and bounces to go their way and even have the ref step up and make a good play on Ingram... and still not win? It doesn't say as many good things about their team as they would like.
 
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BamaPride1979

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yeh look at the stats they killed us wow..... Looks to me that the stats even show a even matched game and we came out on top... if we was out coached then we would not have the win... I swear these fraking BARNERS cant except the fact that they are the white stuff on top of chicken poo.... I get mad everytime they try to bring that crap up... Enough of them its history and complaining about it is not gonna change the out come of the game... Next up Florida and thats all I am going to think about now...ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!
 

BamaMoon

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A pig with lipstick is...still a pig. They can spin it all they want, but in the record books it will always say "loss."
 

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Alabama wasn't out coached, they were out prepared. That was to be expected considering Auburn had over 2X the preparation time. They came out with a lot of tricks and things they had obviously spent a lot of time practicing and as the bag of tricks ran out so did their fortunes.

Auburn had a lot of things go their way and Alabama had a lot of distractions prior to the game. If they catch breaks on the field, get calls and bounces to go their way and even have the ref step up and make a good play on Ingram... and still not win? It doesn't say as many good things about their team as they would like.
This they schemed for us very well God knows they had enough time to do so.
 

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Auburn played well enough to win. But they didn't.

Couldn't one argue that's the difference in the two teams?

They had a chance to win the game with over a minute left in the 4th quarter. They got five plays off in that time, and barely got past midfield. Bama, on the other hand, executed a beautiful offensive series when it had to be done that won the game.

Moral victories don't count in the W-L column.

Roll Tide
 

Ole Man Dan

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It's a 60 minute game. The fact that Auburn led at 58 minutes has nothing to do with the final score.
(They don't get a 'Do-Over', try again next year...)

12 and 0 ...
 

Van

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Looks to me like your standard Barner drivel. Even my family barners admitted we outplayed them except for the 1st half of the first quarter and the one busted coverage. Did they even truly contain Mark Ingram? Good question. Looks like he got hurt early in the game and tried to tough it out. Did they ruin his Heisman chances? Probably. That was their first major goal, stop Mark. They believed stopping Mark would cripple our offense. They were wrong. They believed our offense was not built for come from behind wins (just like bolerjack and beurelein said many times in the 1st quarter yesterday). They were wrong. Bottom line, they got outplayed, plain and simple. I am not trying to take their 'accomplishments' away from them, but they REALLY benefited from just about everything possible outside the game. It was their home game, we had 3 DAYS of practice, and our routines were completely snafu'ed. Guess what, we still whooped them. They were so scared of Arenas the first half that they were kicking EVERYTHING out of bounds. For good reason, only one time did they stop him under a 20yd return. Every other time, he burned them BADLY. This game was a defining moment in the season. It showed that; we can come from behind, that we don't have to have Ingram to win, that McElroy CAN win games with them on his shoulders, that we have a heart and soul of winners. those boys never once looked like they had given up, even after going down by 14pts at their archnemesis' stadium.
 
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