The Republican Vote Suppression Machine Is Out of Control

[DzynKingRTR]

during the last election, my dad received a mail-in ballot and he has been dead since 1998. It makes me curious how many more were sent out to deceased people and how many people weren't exactly honest like my mom. My mom contacted the appropriate people and got him off the mail list. Odd thing was he had never gotten one before. He also started getting pre-approved credit cards shortly after. Scared my mom into thinking someone had stolen his identity.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Question for the board: Should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

Yes or No.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Question for the board: Should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

Yes or No.

No.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Question for the board: Should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

Yes or No.

Before the retread of the de-thread, we've already discussed this numerous times and it is a complete distraction from the issue being discussed here.

Non-citizens are not allowed to vote in federal elections and no state allows them to do so. Period. It's a non-issue.

So I have a better question for the board:

Should eligible citizens be allowed to vote?

If yes, should states intentionally remove them from the rolls without reason?

At the "challenge" of complete strangers who know nothing about the voter whose right to vote they "challenge"?

Should states put up barriers to citizens voting or make it as easy as reasonably possible for as many people to vote as are eligible?

 

[Crimson1967]

during the last election, my dad received a mail-in ballot and he has been dead since 1998. It makes me curious how many more were sent out to deceased people and how many people weren't exactly honest like my mom. My mom contacted the appropriate people and got him off the mail list. Odd thing was he had never gotten one before. He also started getting pre-approved credit cards shortly after. Scared my mom into thinking someone had stolen his identity.

Where does your mom live? At same address as when your dad died?

 

[Tidelines]

Before the retread of the de-thread, we've already discussed this numerous times and it is a complete distraction from the issue being discussed here.

Non-citizens are not allowed to vote in federal elections and no state allows them to do so. Period. It's a non-issue.

So I have a better question for the board:

Should eligible citizens be allowed to vote?

If yes, should states intentionally remove them from the rolls without reason?

At the "challenge" of complete strangers who know nothing about the voter whose right to vote they "challenge"?

Should states put up barriers to citizens voting or make it as easy as reasonably possible for as many people to vote as are eligible?

If you are a legal citizen, born to a legal citizen of the US, or a legally obtain nationalized citizenship you should have the right to vote. The way you worded your question opens the door to illegally aliens voting at some point in time. Their cultural upbringing would eventually make America like the places they came from. Just like democracy doesn't work in the places they came from, it wouldn't work here if they take power.

 

[92tide]

If you are a legal citizen, born to a legal citizen of the US, or a legally obtain nationalized citizenship you should have the right to vote. The way you worded your question opens the door to illegally aliens voting at some point in time. Their cultural upbringing would eventually make America like the places they came from. Just like democracy doesn't work in the places they came from, it wouldn't work here if they take power.

the idea that "illegals" are being brought into this country to vote for democrats is a version of the racist and pernicious great replacement theory, and has long been a favorite tactic of the gop

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[DzynKingRTR]

Where does your mom live? At same address as when your dad died?

yep same address

 

[jthomas666]

If you are a legal citizen, born to a legal citizen of the US, or a legally obtain nationalized citizenship you should have the right to vote. The way you worded your question opens the door to illegally aliens voting at some point in time. Their cultural upbringing would eventually make America like the places they came from. Just like democracy doesn't work in the places they came from, it wouldn't work here if they take power.

Xenophobic much?

The US has many legal immigrants from those same countries.

 

[Tidelines]

Everything is racist to dems. Pretty much old hat and plain out lies.

 

[Tidelines]

Xenophobic much?

The US has many legal immigrants from those same countries.

Call me whatever name you want. We have alot of illegal aliens that are breaking the laws of our country also. You need to set down in front of those families who have lost love ones, killed by illegal aliens, you need to call them names.

 

[92tide]

Everything is racist to dems. Pretty much old hat and plain out lies.

as the gop campaign is doubling down on racism and misogyny.

but keep telling yourself that, i'm sure it's comforting on some level

 

[NationalTitles18]

The way you worded your question opens the door to illegally aliens voting at some point in time.

Only in the imagination of someone who is full of fear.

So let's go through it...

Should eligible citizens be allowed to vote?

It's yes or no, really. They should. Period.

If yes, should states intentionally remove them from the rolls without reason?

No, they should not. Why would anyone disagree. If they have reason, then go for it.

At the "challenge" of complete strangers who know nothing about the voter whose right to vote they "challenge"?

This is crazy. Frankly, I hope a rogue group of liberals start doing this to conservatives just to prove a point and I hope those who support it have to suffer the consequences and can't vote. That's poetic justice.

Should states put up barriers to citizens voting or make it as easy as reasonably possible for as many people to vote as are eligible?

Why put up barriers to citizens voting? Why not make it as easy as reasonably possible for people who are eligible to vote?

There's not a single thing here that would help people ineligible to vote to be able to vote. Not a thing.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Call me whatever name you want. We have alot of illegal aliens that are breaking the laws of our country also. You need to set down in front of those families who have lost love ones, killed by illegal aliens, you need to call them names.

Maybe sit down in front of all the people whose family members have died in mass shootings and tell them reasonable gun control isn't needed.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Call me whatever name you want. We have alot of illegal aliens that are breaking the laws of our country also. You need to set down in front of those families who have lost love ones, killed by illegal aliens, you need to call them names.

A fair point, but I’m starting to think that the murders, rapes and assaults on law enforcement just serve to distract people from the important question: why is this being allowed to happen? And on the heels of that: who stands to gain from all this? I’m not saying the outcomes aren’t important; they are. But there is something deeper and uglier at play here.

 

[jthomas666]

Call me whatever name you want. We have alot of illegal aliens that are breaking the laws of our country also. You need to set down in front of those families who have lost love ones, killed by illegal aliens, you need to call them names.

So the solution is to elect a convicted felon?

 

[4Q Basket Case]

All citizens of the US who are not convicted felons should have the right to vote.

That applies whether they obtained citizenship by being born here, or through the regular and rigorous process by which citizens of other countries can obtain US citizenship.

Being required to prove citizenship in order to register to vote is not an undue burden.

We require documentation of various sorts for driver's licenses and passports. Plus, registration is a one-time thing. You don't have to prove citizenship every time you show up at the polling place, only when you register. Why requiring proof of citizenship for a one-time process is such a big stinkin' deal, I don't know.

If you are a convicted felon, you lose your right to vote at least until you're done with whatever punishment the law doles out. I'm willing to consider restoring voting rights to convicted felons after a period of good behavior -- longer periods of good behavior required for more serious violent crimes.

I just don't think a convicted rapist, murderer, wife or child abuser, or sexual assailant should have the same say in the government as someone who plays by the rules.

Requiring a process for citizenship, requiring citizenship to vote, and barring felons from voting, are reasonable policies and don't put an undue burden on the prospective voter.

 

[92tide]

But there is something deeper and uglier at play here.

yeah there is, brazen and open racism and bigotry being promoted and normalized

 

[Jon]

This is crazy. Frankly, I hope a rogue group of liberals start doing this to conservatives just to prove a point and I hope those who support it have to suffer the consequences and can't vote. That's poetic justice.

If I had the resources I'd hire a couple of kids and a couple of PI's

have the kids drive around and note every address with a Trump flag, sign or sticker then have the PI's figure out enough of the homeowners details to challenge their vote exactly 31 days prior to the election. All at once, thousands of them all in Fulton county

 

[Crimson1967]

The 14th amendment grants citizenship to anyone born here regardless of the status of the parents.