We would say yes to Texas A&M and probably Texas if they would come down off their high horse. The SEC would love to get into Texas territory.
The SEC should invite Missouri
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Not I, NC and Duke would practically lock down the SEC being a premier basketball and football conference.
Great point. And when I looked online at the US map to refresh myself too, one thing jumped out at me on this whole realignment thing - Colorado is going to rack up major frequent flyer miles with the HUGE distances they will have to travel. Tuscaloosa is closer to the Big 10 schools than Colorado is to the PAC 10 schools. And Nebraska is also going to put in their fair share of travel. And travelling long distances to play athletic events can be a very tiring thing and a big disadvantage to the visiting team. Just really dumb stuff going on right now if you ask me.
Well, you're probably about the only one around here who didn't know it. It comes from a couple of sources as close to our BOT as humanly possible, and they were relaying what had been decided by the conference...
aTm to the SEC west and VA Tech to the east. This would be my ideal scenario, too. I like it...
I just have to toss this out there since the whole A&M not selling thing has been brought up a few times.
In 2009, A&M was 16th in college football in attendance. This placed them ahead of Clemson, South Carolina, Florida St., Virginia Tech and Arkansas.
Missouri was a highly respectable 28th, which is pretty darn good for a school many would say isn't a football school as well. Both Missouri and A&M also were over 90% capacity as well, so it's not like they had a ton of empty seats in either case.
I've been thinking about this and wondered if the SEC would make an exception should North Carolina and Duke want to join together. I'd be surprised if they didn't.
The hang up to me is that if the SEC didn't do everything possible to add Missouri and A&M, what's the point in going after NC and Duke? North Carolina is bigger than Missouri, but Missouri only had one D1 football program and North Carolina has 4 D1 schools. I like the NC market, but given the new rules and options that the SEC at least had, I have to question the value of going after two NC schools...
I started my conjecture thinking that the Big 12 schools would not be available. Things have gradually evolved but what I'm still stuck on is that the Big 10 didn't take Missouri (yet) and they went from destined to the most powerful conference in the country to licking boots in the Big 12. They certainly have to be on par with a North Carolina or a Virginia Tech on their own right so it's really changed my perspective (coupled with the revelation that the SEC won't move into states with SEC teams). I think not taking Missouri and A&M makes all the other options in the east pointless. If those two aren't worth it, then no combination of VT, Virginia, Duke or NC will be worth it either.
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I don't think that what was told me was meant quite that way. They didn't say that we wouldn't take two new schools from a new state - just that we wouldn't add a school from a state which already had an SEC school...
The idea of including Wake and NC State is to include its rivalries. Wake is pretty decent and is popular in Western NC. State is an appendage, but will keep the NC legislature from holding hearings. However, if the ACC is destroyed, similar types of hearings might be heard in SC for Clemson, GT for Georgia, and less likely FSU and Miami in Florida. If accomodations can be made for all members of the ACC, then there would be less fuss, in my opinion.
not split hairs, but with unc, duke, nc state, wake, and east carolina, they've got at least 5.
Correct, but we do consistently sell out games. In order to buy season tickets, we have to "Donate" a certain amount based on seat location. For the better seats, we have to "Donate" $3,500 per seat then we can purchase the season tickets. It's like the NFL's "PSL = Personal Seat License" deal, have to buy the rights first then buy the tickets second.
Our AD's nickname is "Dollar Bill" Byrne for a reason. So instead of just buying season tickets, to watch the stellar teams such as Iowa St., Baylor, or Kansas some of the fans prefer to just buy single tickets from scalpers or ticket brokers.
I just don't think UNC would make a fuss over Wake and State. They are not actually rivals anyway, are they?
And I doubt those sorts of hearings will happen in Georgia, South Carolina, or Florida. Those schools are already in different conferences and if the ACC gets raided I think you will see what's left of it merge with the Big East, so it's not like they won't have anywhere to go.
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