Tide Fans are the Worst (LONG)

TideMobileBay

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I don't completely buy into the idea that Alabama Fans are terrible. Lately you do seem to hear more complaints from outsiders about our fans than you do about our team. Frankly, most of the criticism is a load of fresh fertilizer. Certainly Tennessee and LSU fans are more obnoxious, and Vandy and Kentucky fans are the most fickle, but we Tide Fans do have our faults.

Alabama fans are maybe the most loyal and dedicated fans in the country, but we also may be the most spoiled. And that is never more evident than on game day at Bryant-Denny.

I remember sitting in the stadium as a student in those years following our back-to-back national titles in ’78 and ’79, and thinking, “What’s wrong with these people?” The Old Timers sat on their hands, never bothering to clap, yell, or stand, regardless of the play on the field. The student section was worse. My fellow students paid more attention to their buddies five rows back than what Paul Ott was doing on the field.

Why was it that way? Because the game was never in doubt.

In the old days everyone was rightfully assured the Tide was going to win regardless of how much cheering was done. The team didn’t need us for goodness sake.

Fast forward 25 years. Things have changed on the field. Big time. Yet with the exception of the Oklahoma game last year little has changed in the stands. Sure the crowd has its moments. But in 2004 you are still likely to have a rude comment thrown your way if stand and cheer too long.

You see it year after year in national lists of the Best College Stadiums; Baton Rouge, Knoxville, even the one in Auburn make the lists, not because of the history, the tradition, or even the out atmosphere outside the arena, but because of the ambiance inside the stadium. Bryant-Denny atmosphere is good, but certainly unimposing, and unimposing is not going to get you on any lists.

And its damn sure not going to win you any games.

I would never trade our history and tradition for a high decibel level, but for the life of me I can’t understand why the University of Alabama can’t have both.

Roll Tide (but can you do it a little louder this year).
 

CnW

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I'm yelling so loud for the Tide during games here in Dallas that I'm surprised y'all can't hear me over there!

ROLL TIDE!!!
Me too at my home. My neighbors think I've gone crazy.
 

JPinSOCAL

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I'd have to agree with you. I went to the Tenn. game in 2001. Took my vacation for that game, matter of fact. Paid good money for some decent Tide Pride seats, proceeded to yell and cheer and hoot and root, and had a number of people around me looking at me like I was a moron. I just chalked it up to people taking things for granted. A 'Bama football game for me isn't a weekly thing to do, never will be. I made the most of it. Living in SoCal I take things for granted out here that a someone from 'Bama wouldn't. In my eyes it just doesn't add up though...You've got to make noise and cheer!!! :biggrin:
 

Texas Tider

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It's really sad that it has become that way.

I can remember going to games with my Dad around '81 and everyone around us would be yelling for the Tide. It was so loud! (I was probably 5 years old).

My freshman year at Alabama, I went to the Vanderbilt game at Bryant Denny and sat in the student section. I honestly don't recall our section making that much noise. Definitely a drop off from what I remembered as a kid.

The last game I attended was November 1, 1997 against Louisiana Tech... no one was cheering at that game... :(
 

TideMobileBay

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So Will it Ever Change?

Are we doomed to endure home games where the opposing fans are louder than we are? Will our fans ever learn that this football and not The Masters? Will the crowd noise at BD ever strike fear into the hearts of opposing teams?
 

SavannahDare

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TideMobileBay said:
Bryant-Denny atmosphere is good, but certainly unimposing, and unimposing is not going to get you on any lists.

And its damn sure not going to win you any games.

I would never trade our history and tradition for a high decibel level, but for the life of me I can’t understand why the University of Alabama can’t have both.

Roll Tide (but can you do it a little louder this year).

BDS wasn't built for sound or intimidation. Most of the stadiums that are considered intimidating are also built so that any noise made within them is greatly amplified (TN, AU, LSU and the swamp are incredibly loud). BDS's lower bowl is simply too flat to catch the noise. Even adding the upper decks, and eventually closing in the bowl will only bring modest improvement. I do agree with you regarding how many of our fans dislike standing and making noise, but it doesn't irritate me as much as it seems to you. Oh, and only rarely will crowd noise "win" a game...that comes from skill and execution on the field. :cool:
 

RamJam

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Jan 3, 2003
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Grrrrrrrrrr

It just nauseates me when I hear this kind of stuff, because I know so many sports-minded people all over the country think this way about Alabama fans in general.

BUT! - I just absolutely don't think we're all that evil!

I do realize that part of their opinion is based on things they've observed at games (& then repeated enough to spread the trash", etc) - things such as those who sit still as pokers & don't get excited or when they see our fans yelling negatives at the coaches or on a play that's called or EVEN a player - right there in front of everybody...(Like they actually know enough &/or could do better themselves.......) And anyone in their right mind knows that is the most obvious mark of a BAD fan: to publically traah-talk their own coach or a player or a situation or decision...

ANYWAY - we can only remedy this by showing spirit at the games, and by keeping all the negative comments at home. We can support our team & coaches by encouraging rather than "suggesting" what needs to happen or needs to "be done" - During the season, we can send weekly cards & notes & letters congratulating them or simply letting them know their fan-base is behind them 100% - in good times & in the ugly...We can back up all our physical suggestions for "what we want" by sending in donations (it does take money .....), & the list goes on.

It just makes me SICK to think that a school like Auburn would be higher on a list for ambiance inside the stadium on gameday. I know we have it in our hearts - I guess we just need to show it more.

Maybe with the dawn of this new staff & new times ahead for us in the next few years, things will turn around in lots of ways - to include the image people have of Alabama fans in general. :rolleyes:

ROLL TIDE !!!
 

TideMobileBay

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Savannah.....

Maybe it the lack of noise bothers me for two primary reasons:

1) Crowd Noise can influence a game. More importantly, it one of those things that make college football unique. Pro Fans have the same "whatever" attitude until the playoffs come around. And the lack of emotion is sorely lacking in the NFL. Its just a business. Who wants that kind of atmosphere?

2) It is symptomatic of a larger unrealsitic view of where the program is. This is NOT 1979. The teams WANTS us to get fired up, if you don't think they repond to fan emotion then you have never played football.

And by the way, I don't buy that garbage that BD isn't built for noise. If you beleive it then you obviously weren't at the OU game. The fans can be as loud as any place in the country, WHEN THEY WANT TO.
 

bamanut_aj

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TideMobileBay said:
Maybe it the lack of noise bothers me for two primary reasons:

1) Crowd Noise can influence a game. More importantly, it one of those things that make college football unique. Pro Fans have the same "whatever" attitude until the playoffs come around. And the lack of emotion is sorely lacking in the NFL. Its just a business. Who wants that kind of atmosphere?
You should come up to a Titan's game some time..... we get LOUD!!
 

FitToBeTide

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From a somewhat older fan,

I will take a stab at the topic.

The word "business" came up a few posts up. Interesting. That may be closest to the truth about the matter than anything else. For those who lived through Coach Bryant's tenure as HC, you will remember that his approach to the game appeared to be strictly business all the time. Very serious, focused and dedicated players under a likewise minded coach. "Act like you've been there before!" I wonder if that sort of attitude became a part of the persona of the Tide Nation also while he was there. The players certainly played like that. It wasn't thought of then as a bad way to do things: the winning record proves that. But perhaps this matter-of-fact approach to the game, win or lose, has been entrenched for so long that it hasn't worked its way out yet. I'm not in total opposition to this way of doing things. But we the fans need to have a more vocal input into the life of the game being played out before us.

Maybe 15 or 20 years of winning national championships under CMS will bring about a metamorphosis in game/stadium "ambiance".

Until then, one game, one win at a time and we might begin to see some remarkable (wonderful) things happen to the entire Bama race.

It's time, peeps.


:biga2:
 

RollTideinGA

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TideMobileBay said:
Fast forward 25 years. Things have changed on the field. Big time. Yet with the exception of the Oklahoma game last year little has changed in the stands. Sure the crowd has its moments. But in 2004 you are still likely to have a rude comment thrown your way if stand and cheer too long.

You see it year after year in national lists of the Best College Stadiums; Baton Rouge, Knoxville, even the one in Auburn make the lists, not because of the history, the tradition, or even the out atmosphere outside the arena, but because of the ambiance inside the stadium. Bryant-Denny atmosphere is good, but certainly unimposing, and unimposing is not going to get you on any lists.

And its damn sure not going to win you any games.

I would never trade our history and tradition for a high decibel level, but for the life of me I can’t understand why the University of Alabama can’t have both.

Roll Tide (but can you do it a little louder this year).

I hate this arguement every year. I have seen my fair share of people being asked to sit down. But I have also seen the stadium rocking. BDs was not built to hold sound. Alot of the noise escapes through the endzones and the large tunnels we have in the corners. Sure I wouldnt mind if it was continuously loud like the Swamp or LSU. But stop the freaking whinning. I sit in a Tide Pride section that has a good mix of loud, younger folk and the older sittin down folk. Hey they enevr complain when we stand up and I understand they are too old to stand and hollar the whole game. I guess I am too resonable.

Maybe when the enclose the North endzone it will be louder, but I dont think you are going to change the overall fan attitude. I remember Legion field being loud during Tennessee, Penn State, Notre Dame, and Auburn games in the 80's. I dont know how it compares to the "atmosphere" everyone always cries about. Maybe we need to write a letter to the AD that they stick the older people in a "family" section where they can all be quite together and no one stands up in front of them? Those other stadiums are also loud because they are winning, not only the fans. Also most of those stadiumns are larger than BDS, and some of them are built with the field actually below ground. Like I stated BDs wanst built for noise.

I am just tired of this BI@* every year. After every game (sitting in a Tide Pride section) for the past 5 years we are hoarse and it takes me a good 3 days to recover. By seasons end I have almost lost my voice. I think my section is rather loud, maybe not the entire game. And then I come on here and read some whinny *** complaining the stadium was quite. Get over it. Go cheer for LSU or the Gators if you love their atmosphere so much. Dang. :rolleyes:
 

RamJam

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I LOVE this...

RollTideInGa - You crack me up - Nothin' like "tellin' it like it is"...I am LOVING it! And I sooooooooo agree !!

:cool:
 

TideMobileBay

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I hate this arguement every year. I have seen my fair share of people being asked to sit down. But I have also seen the stadium rocking. BDs was not built to hold sound. Alot of the noise escapes through the endzones and the large tunnels we have in the corners. Sure I wouldnt mind if it was continuously loud like the Swamp or LSU. But stop the freaking whinning.
Damn...I tell you what I am sick of...any time any one, including an alumnus like myself, complains about the status qou, some one like you telling people to quite whinning or go cheer for another school. You may be an alumnus too, but don't tell me not to express my opinion.

First of all, have you ever asked your self why this subject comes up every year? Hmmm? Intresting.

I'm glad you yell. Glad your section is loud. Keep it up. Wish there about 70 or 80 thousand more of you.

But the EXCUSE that BD is not build to be loud is a load of cow chips, a big load. Sure it may not be accoustically perfect to hold sound, but you have to make noise first to give it a chance to escape. This IS a chicken an egg thing. The noise come first...can't go any where unless its made. Prety simple.

Also, you apparently don't read very well, becasue I made obvious mention that we SOMETIMES make noise. Sometimes. However we, the fans, are certainly not known for it. We have a DESERVED reputation for being inconsistant with our internal volume controls. How often and how loud someone is has nothing to do with the shape of a building. Remember yelling comes fist. Chicken - Egg.

You sound like a guy that goes to a lot of games, that's great. What did you think of the OU game? Loss aside, you have to admit the atmosphere there was unlike any you have ever experienced. It was electric. It was loud. And it was CONSTANT. The OU player all made comments after the game about the noise. When was the last time you heard a player, ours or theirs, make a comment like that about a game at BD? But I guess we loss the game, so we can say we tried it, it didn't work, so let's just go back to sitting on our hands. Right?
 

CHATTBRIT

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Ever been to a game in Gainesville. Some fans in the Florida section find it amusing to throw balloons filled with urine on the visiting fans! Now, that is something to get upset about. I'll never get mad at Tide fans for not shouting enough at BDS -- at least we have class
 

TideMobileBay

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Tider in GA...one other thing

I tell you what, if you enjoy the status qou so much, why don't YOU go cheer for an other school. That way someone who want to make things better, louder, and more intimidating can take your place.

Our Home Game record hasnt been too good doing things your way :wink: .
 

Texas Tider

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I'm with you, TideMobileBay.

I know that hearing the crowd react and cheer you on makes a big impact on your performance. It pumps you up and gives you a boost. Gets you excited (now, I admit, I don't know from my football experience since the last game I played was in 5th grade Y-League, but I know from playing in bands... the crowd has the same effect. You could play every note right, but if the crowd isn't into it, it's not too much fun).

I can't say for myself what the noise is like at Bryant Denny Stadium since, sadly, I haven't been able to attend a game since '97, so I have to rely on what others tell me. It sounds like most of the people here agree with TideMobileBay.

No, cheering doesn't win ball games, but it does help to fire up our players to go out there and win.

And it doesn't make me mad if others don't cheer, I just wish that they would to show our players that we are behind them.
 
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1BamaNita

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Just curious, TideMobileBay

You didn't actually say whether you attend games.

You did mention the atmosphere at the OU game, but I was just wondering of you have season tickets.
 

Bamabelle in ga

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the 70s, 80s, etc

As a young teen in the 70s, I was awed at the quiet confidence of the coach, players, and fans at games. I was awed by the "student section" and how loud the cheers were. We were an arrogant but oh so proud and classy bunch.

When CPB died, I immediately knew the team needed us more and needed a change. I'd like to think those truly in tune with UA Football understand what I'm talking about. In my opinion, the crowd did become louder early on in the 80s....but as the losses took their toll, many in the crowd reverted back to the old ways.

I feel so for the young Bama fans of today. They might know the old stories, just as I know the stories of the 60s so well...... but I want them to EXPERIENCE what the over 40 crowd has experienced. I want it so bad it hurts!

Oh, and one more thing....ambiance in Jordan Hare????????? I don't think so.


Here's to a great '04 season for our beloved Tide. Always believe. We are the University of Alabama.
 

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