Tua's Injury

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I sure hope that his family has an insurance policy that pays in case he cannot play football again. This is maybe a 100 million dollar injury if that is the case...a quality pro qb can make that easily over 10 years...
Russell Wilson signed a 4 year $140 mil. $100 mil might be conservative.
 

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I sure hope that his family has an insurance policy that pays in case he cannot play football again.
Since the school is now allowed to pay for that policy, I'd say there's nearly a 100% chance that's the case. Having said that, I have no idea what the max that could pay out it. It don't believe it would replicate a full NFL career, but in theory it could be the size of a rookie contract. Kyler Murray signed for over 30 million, so odds are even of Tua never plays football again he'll still be a wealthy man. I could probably throw an AJ line out there now, where people are saying it's nice to get paid well to be a backup. It wouldn't be that terrible to be paid even better not to play at all.

Anyway, it is amazing how quickly things turned. One week he's in the Heisman race, in the race for the #1 pick, and the next there's some doubt as to his career. Every indication is he'll be fine though.
 

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The one thing that bothers me most was when the Miss State player that got hurt they said "we won't show it again". Yet they must have shown Tua not only get hurt but stood outside the tunnels trying to see after getting asked to leave twice.
 

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I hope Tua recovers enough to play football again. I think he will. With his other injuries, they've always said he works really hard on rehab. I'd love to see him make it to the next level. But someone needs to get him some film of Joe Namath when he played for the Jets. He had very little mobility, but he knew how to move around in the pocket, knew when to throw it away to prevent getting sacked, and knew how to avoid heavy hits when he did get sacked.

Tua's arm can still earn him a lot of money if he learns to protect his body.
 

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I don’t have the film to look at for previous hits that Tua has taken but I sort of wonder if the ankle may actually inadvertently caused the hip. Follow me here. When Tua hurt the ankle in the first place, it was because he got it rolled up under the tackler. Same situation happened yesterday as when he hurt the ankle, player catches him from behind while rolling left, except this time he turtles up, almost like he was trying to protect the ankle(s) from getting rolled up. It may have been totally knee jerk and and not a pre-meditated thought. I’d have to compare sacks he’s taken over time to see if there’s a difference in how he’s gone down. Who amongst us hasn’t tried to protect an injury while competing with it.
 

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I don’t have the film to look at for previous hits that Tua has taken but I sort of wonder if the ankle may actually inadvertently caused the hip. Follow me here. When Tua hurt the ankle in the first place, it was because he got it rolled up under the tackler. Same situation happened yesterday as when he hurt the ankle, player catches him from behind while rolling left, except this time he turtles up, almost like he was trying to protect the ankle(s) from getting rolled up. It may have been totally knee jerk and and not a pre-meditated thought. I’d have to compare sacks he’s taken over time to see if there’s a difference in how he’s gone down. Who amongst us hasn’t tried to protect an injury while competing with it.
My wife and I said the same thing last night. Instead of putting weight on ankles he may have inadvertently pulled up and fell on hip instead.
 

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I don’t have the film to look at for previous hits that Tua has taken but I sort of wonder if the ankle may actually inadvertently caused the hip.
I would say that the way Tua tries to extend plays is the culprit here (it's how he got both injuries). We have seen enough film to notice that Tua really exposes himself when he leaves the pocket, and there have been quite a few plays that either looked ugly or resulted in injury.
 
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The one thing that bothers me most was when the Miss State player that got hurt they said "we won't show it again". Yet they must have shown Tua not only get hurt but stood outside the tunnels trying to see after getting asked to leave twice.
Where/when was that reported? I missed it...
 

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Shortly I'll have a large pin and screw removed from my left leg. They have been in there 41 years. I'd leave em alone, except they are in the way of a total knee replacement.
Doctors figure I'll rehab from the removal 3-4 months before the replacement.
Going back to quality of life... I am faced with painful mobility, or 2 surgeries.
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I tried to pm you but couldn't get it to work. My gosh, what a row to hoe. Chin up, you've got friends you've never even met. I have always enjoyed reading your posts. Best wishes.
 

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Interesting. I was just having a similar conversation with my wife, starting off with how sturdy Jalen is. IDK if it's that some guys are just tougher built or if there's an instinctive positioning of the body so as not to get injured. I've done a lot of risky things. In kayaking, I was known as an escape artist, should have been dead several times. It always seemed that time slowed down for me. OTOH, on my ladder fall when I broke my hip, it seemed that it was "Bam-Bam." First my face hit the dirt and the ladder and a split second later, my foot dug into the dirt and I had a jab of pain in my right butt. In fact, my first, inane thought was that I'd pulled my hamstring and I wondered how that could have happened. IOW, I've protected my body many times but I couldn't in that case. So, is Tua fragile or just exposing himself? I'm sure there are several GMs asking themselves that tonight...
I’ve been thinking about this as well. Look at Tua & Kyler Murray. They’re both the same body type. They aren’t very thick. I would worry about them taking constant hits. You look at Jalen and he’s what we call “thick in the behind.” It’s almost like he has the body to take a hit and of course administer a hit. I watched him run last night and not one time did I think “he’s gonna get hurt.”
 

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Interesting. I was just having a similar conversation with my wife, starting off with how sturdy Jalen is. IDK if it's that some guys are just tougher built or if there's an instinctive positioning of the body so as not to get injured. I've done a lot of risky things. In kayaking, I was known as an escape artist, should have been dead several times. It always seemed that time slowed down for me. OTOH, on my ladder fall when I broke my hip, it seemed that it was "Bam-Bam." First my face hit the dirt and the ladder and a split second later, my foot dug into the dirt and I had a jab of pain in my right butt. In fact, my first, inane thought was that I'd pulled my hamstring and I wondered how that could have happened. IOW, I've protected my body many times but I couldn't in that case. So, is Tua fragile or just exposing himself? I'm sure there are several GMs asking themselves that tonight...
I agree that Jalen is very a tough runner, but even Jalen got hurt last year and had to have the tight rope surgery. There is a little luck (bad luck) sometimes and maybe a little genes. I do agree that Tua needs to learn that he can't or shouldn't try to save every play. The problem for him is that he does save a lot of the plays but at what long term risk.
 

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I don’t have the film to look at for previous hits that Tua has taken but I sort of wonder if the ankle may actually inadvertently caused the hip. Follow me here. When Tua hurt the ankle in the first place, it was because he got it rolled up under the tackler. Same situation happened yesterday as when he hurt the ankle, player catches him from behind while rolling left, except this time he turtles up, almost like he was trying to protect the ankle(s) from getting rolled up. It may have been totally knee jerk and and not a pre-meditated thought. I’d have to compare sacks he’s taken over time to see if there’s a difference in how he’s gone down. Who amongst us hasn’t tried to protect an injury while competing with it.
I had a similar thought.



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I agree that Jalen is very a tough runner, but even Jalen got hurt last year and had to have the tight rope surgery. There is a little luck (bad luck) sometimes and maybe a little genes. I do agree that Tua needs to learn that he can't or shouldn't try to save every play. The problem for him is that he does save a lot of the plays but at what long term risk.
He succeeds often enough that the temptation is strong to do it one more time. JMO, but he appears to have lost a step, whether from the surgeries or not being back to 100% after rehab. He thought he could beat the two to the sideline and throw the ball away and misjudged. Before his injuries, I think he could have outrun them...
 

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She wasn’t on screen and her mic seems to not be potted up at its normal level. They just had a little rectangle at the bottom of the screen to indicate she was talking. I had to hush the room to hear her.
IDK how I missed that. Probably talking. I had told my wife I was afraid it was his hip, from the way they landed on him with his leg drawn up that way, so we had a pretty intense conversation going...
 

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My son Chase was diagnosed with Avascular Necrosis at 21 years old. His ortho surgeon said he was the youngest patient he'd ever treated with that disease (and the youngest patient he'd performed a total hip replacement on). The surgery went well, and his recovery time was nothing short of miraculous. Of course, his age played a huge role in his recovery. Even now, several years later, he still walks with a slight limp if he's been on his feet all day. His orthopedist said he would most likely have to have a second hip replacement in a few years. He played football for several years, but his love was baseball and he'd played since he was 4. A habit of his was turning either hip to the plate to deflect a HBP. After watching him go through all of this, it breaks my heart knowing what a long road Tua has ahead of him. :( Thankfully, Tua does have the "best of the best" at his side.
 
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