BREAKING Ty Declaring for NFL Draft

[BamaMoon]

It sounds like clickbait... Ty has his quirks, but you never tell an overall experienced guy like that you don't want him back.

We simply don't have all the info the coaching staff has. That makes this very, very difficult to interpret.

How much Ty was making in NIL vs. what Russell/Mack makes and how much it would take to keep them.

BTW, when I watched the audio of Ty saying "goodbye" I found it very, very interesting that he mentioned CNS several times, but never mentioned CKD or Grubb.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Just heard Rick Neuheisel say on the radio that he had heard on good authority that Bama encouraged Ty to move on. Not sure how much Rick knows.

Why would anyone share that with him or someone who would blab to him. Also agree that it is irrational to push Ty out—you would lose Mack if he came back, not Keelon.

 

[TiderJack]

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Maybe. But Austin Mack is who replaced Ty when he got hurt against Indy. Mack is next, unless that changes by September. Or they bring in a hotshot through the portal.

Our QB room is set unless somebody else leaves. Don't see any QB portal activity for us.

 

[cdub55]

He will probably hold everyone hostage until June and then think about it until OTAs.

I think it really depends on his mood and whether Pittsburgh has a coach that he likes and another receiver. Rodgers isn’t like Brady in which there is a pragmatic timetable in making these decisions. He likes to drug it out. He is a weird guy but honestly he is the best quarterback we have had in 15 years.

But right now I would say unless he had a better chance somewhere else then it’s 50-50 that he makes a return to Pittsburgh.

FIFY

 

[BamaMoon]

Why would anyone share that with him or someone who would blab to him. Also agree that it is irrational to push Ty out—you would lose Mack if he came back, not Keelon.

Again, without any insider info, I think the greater fear is losing Keelon.

 

[TDBama78]

Ty made a good decision, there is no point in subjecting himself to another year of punishment like he went through this year, and I don't expect it to improve at all next year, ,hats off and a salute to ty Simpson,he did it the right way.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I have no idea/info.

However, I can imagine a conversation/discussion about the pros/cons of Ty staying and playing another year vs. going to the draft. FWIW.

Pros:
- A healthy Ty is very good (that's why he must have received a good draft grade)
- Another year of Ty would offer a solid vision of what our offense would look like with him playing healthy.
- You know his ceiling when he's on/healthy.
- Great leader!


Cons:
- You only have 1 year with him IF he stays healthy and the OL/RB concerns improve.
- He's injury/fumble-prone
- He's decent but not dynamic in scramble mode - needs to throw in a protected pocket with proper footwork - basically, isn't very accurate on the run.
- You know his ceiling
- No matter how good/healthy he is/stays next year, he's gone and you start over.

With the total rebuild next year; I think the staff knows a new QB (with multiple years of eligibility) is more attractive than one more year of the ceiling you know you get with Ty.

To quote a football friend: Ty's ceiling may be Russell's basement when he finally gets the snaps/experience to be the starter.

What will happen: Without a crystal ball, I think if Russell and Mack are "close" in the spring; CKD will name Russell the starter going into the fall and Mack will transfer. It wouldn't even shock me if Mack doesn't transfer before the spring in this window.

Russell is the most highly rated QB Bama has ever signed. He's the future.

Ty's accuracy didn't start taking a hit until after he got injured. Before the injury and before the OL started falling apart, he had over a 70% completion %.. It wasn't until his injuries and the line started declining that his accuracy took a hit.

Russell's ceiling isn't so high that he can still be successful without a competent line blocking for him. I've never seen a QB on the college level or above be a success with a bad offensive line. I would have loved to see Ty's numbers if the OL hadn't of completely wilted on the back half of the year. But either way, next year may very well be a rebuild year regardless of who is starting at QB, Mack or Russell. I highly doubt either one will be as polished as Ty was this season (pre injuries). God help us all if we go 8-4 or 7-5. Everyone's going to be calling for heads but the built in excuse is going to be "But we had to break in a new QB."

 

[BamaMoon]

Our QB room is set unless somebody else leaves. Don't see any QB portal activity for us.

Agree. If we wanted an experienced QB they would have unloaded a bigger NIL on Ty.

Only way we take another QB is if we lose Mack to the portal.

 

[BamaMoon]

God help us all if we go 8-4 or 7-5. Everyone's going to be calling for heads but the built in excuse is going to be "But we had to break in a new QB."

I think that is it in a nutshell.

Ty, when healthy, is very, very solid. But that means you are putting all your eggs in a one year basket. Boom or bust.

It is betting on being GREAT in one year VS the possibility of being great multiple years.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I think that is it in a nutshell.

Ty, when healthy, is very, very solid. But that means you are putting all your eggs in a one year basket. Boom or bust.

It is betting on being GREAT in one year VS the possibility of being great multiple years.

Here's the problem and it stems from the transfer portal. Can we really afford to have an 8-4/7-5 season without having massive transfers out after the season because of the optics of "Bama is on the decline"? Remember, there is no patience not only at Alabama but with the individual players. One bad season and you're liable to have a mass exodus out.

 

[bamajas]

Ty's accuracy didn't start taking a hit until after he got injured. Before the injury and before the OL started falling apart, he had over a 70% completion %.. It wasn't until his injuries and the line started declining that his accuracy took a hit.

Russell's ceiling isn't so high that he can still be successful without a competent line blocking for him. I've never seen a QB on the college level or above be a success with a bad offensive line. I would have loved to see Ty's numbers if the OL hadn't of completely wilted on the back half of the year. But either way, next year may very well be a rebuild year regardless of who is starting at QB, Mack or Russell. I highly doubt either one will be as polished as Ty was this season (pre injuries). God help us all if we go 8-4 or 7-5. Everyone's going to be calling for heads but the built in excuse is going to be "But we had to break in a new QB."

How strongly might those two be connected? If he couldn't "throw our way out of pressure," that's eventually going to snowball out of control

 

[day-day]

Just heard Rick Neuheisel say on the radio that he had heard on good authority that Bama encouraged Ty to move on. Not sure how much Rick knows.

I don't know if Neuheisel actually heard anything factual on Simpson's decision to leave for the NFL.

I believe Coach Saban used to encourage players to leave for the NFL if they were projected to be a first round pick.

 

[gtgilbert]

How strongly might those two be connected? If he couldn't "throw our way out of pressure," that's eventually going to snowball out of control

but he did throw out of pressures early. Once opponent DCs figured outhe could do that they created situations where the OL would just not even block a guy as they'd be confused, so the pressure came even faster, and they'd play closer coverage on what they gambled the hot routes would be.

 

[Special K]

How strongly might those two be connected? If he couldn't "throw our way out of pressure," that's eventually going to snowball out of control

Not sure I follow you there. What we needed was a semi-productive running back room and an O-line that wasn't swiss cheese most of the time and Ty would have likely been shredding defenses all year long.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

FIFY

What did you fix?

Perhaps bold what you changed...?

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Ty's accuracy didn't start taking a hit until after he got injured. Before the injury and before the OL started falling apart, he had over a 70% completion %.. It wasn't until his injuries and the line started declining that his accuracy took a hit.

Russell's ceiling isn't so high that he can still be successful without a competent line blocking for him. I've never seen a QB on the college level or above be a success with a bad offensive line. I would have loved to see Ty's numbers if the OL hadn't of completely wilted on the back half of the year. But either way, next year may very well be a rebuild year regardless of who is starting at QB, Mack or Russell. I highly doubt either one will be as polished as Ty was this season (pre injuries). God help us all if we go 8-4 or 7-5. Everyone's going to be calling for heads but the built in excuse is going to be "But we had to break in a new QB."

KR has had limited action so far and last we heard was pretty far from starting.

I’ve seen people compare him to Tua, Bryce, and Jayden Daniels already.

Tua had QBR’s of 199.4 and 206.9 in his 2 years starting.

That’s Super Rare and Not Normal

Bryce had a QBR of 167.5 his 1st year.

Not Normal

Jayden Daniels in his 1st Four seasons hovered around 145

Then his 5th Season he was unstoppable and had a QBR of 208

Imo it’s far more likely for KR to have some growing pains in Year 1 and especially if our OL and Running game doesn’t vastly improve.

Some of the expectations for KR are way too high right now.

It’s possible that we could be overall improved but still max out at 9-3 or 8-4 having a FR QB starting for the 1st time.

I think he has a lot of potential and he does have a quick release but it would be beyond surprising to me for him to instantly be a Cheat Code at QB like Tua or Bryce.

 

[bamajas]

but he did throw out of pressures early. Once opponent DCs figured outhe could do that they created situations where the OL would just not even block a guy as they'd be confused, so the pressure came even faster, and they'd play closer coverage on what they gambled the hot routes would be.

Right, that was my point, and I understand that defenses kept adjusting—and the pass rush quality got more difficult as the season progressed, too

Defenses could afford to gamble even more because he was more limited than earlier in attacking the whole field

Not sure I follow you there. What we needed was a semi-productive running back room and an O-line that wasn't swiss cheese most of the time and Ty would have likely been shredding defenses all year long.

I don't disagree with the overall assessment; sure, that's the ideal fix

We didn't win UGA 1.0 because "we ran the ball" but largely because Ty could attack virtually any hole that opened in the defense

We were able to do that even without a respectable running game. We lost that ability *during* the season. I'm just curious if QB injury + OL bed-wetting + defensive adjustments *could* all be related... in that his injuries made it even easier for defenses to overwhelm the OL

Maybe it sounds like blame or excuses. I'm just curious about multiple factors and their timing

 

[Cruloc]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009305404367351916

 

[Rocky Mtn Bob]

I don't trust *anything* out of Neuheisel's mouth.

I'm in Colorado. Neuheisel is about as highly regarded here as Sherrone Moore is in Michigan.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009305404367351916

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Kalen DeBoer first Alabama HC to not win an SEC Title w/ an NFL Draft Pick at QB since Mike Shula

Brodie Croyle (2005 3rd Rd Pick)