Link: Update: OT Jawuan James Commits To Tennessee

[MKAlaw4ua9195]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

This has Lance Thompson's finger prints all over it. The probation excuse is not legitimate at this point.

If James was truthful with the reporter, he would say something like "I'm a little scared of all the competition for playing time I'd be facing over in Tuscaloosa."

I second the first sentence.

 

[time_4_the_TIDE]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

It was my understanding that they extended the window to like 2013 wasn't it? I could be wrong. I'll research it.

Here it is.

http://www.tidefans.com/forums/foot...obation-already-looks-like-major-mistake.html

It appears the window is five years.

Thanks for the link I had forgotten the particulars. I was thinking the probation was just 2yrs not 3 and I completely brain farted on the repeat offender window being there at 5 yrs.

 

[rhYno]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

According to Opelika's finest, we cheat in order to sign top classes... I wonder if Saban and company didn't offer James as much cash as they have the rest?

 

[CrimsonEyeshade]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

It's four months until signing day. We'll have more than enough kids to fill our slots. If Jawuan James chooses to be elsewhere, it's his choice, and his life.

I'm hoping he makes the choice that feels right to him. The University of Alabama is not listing on that decision.

 

[SeattleBama]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Seattle - I see you're a newbie like me, but I've been a lurker around here for awhile and certain posters have a reputation for inside knowledge and their assertions have been repeatedly validated by accurate predictions.

It has been my (limited) experience that Airborne is one of these posters.

:BigA:

I have been an occassional lurker for years on here, only interested in joining the fray since we have been winning again (the membership base on TideFans has grown since Saban has been hired). I am not putting anyone down. Anyone can join pay sites and get information, read free blogs, etc. Unless you are in contact with the coaches and the recruits and can pry solid information out of them, it is all speculation. I certainly would not call it inside knowledge UNLESS they are privy to that inside knowledge through a direct route to the coaches.
Just saying...

 

[crimson_blood]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

I have been an occassional lurker for years on here, only interested in joining the fray since we have been winning again (the membership base on TideFans has grown since Saban has been hired). I am not putting anyone down. Anyone can join pay sites and get information, read free blogs, etc. Unless you are in contact with the coaches and the recruits and can pry solid information out of them, it is all speculation. I certainly would not call it inside knowledge UNLESS they are privy to that inside knowledge through a direct route to the coaches.
Just saying...

You'd be surprised how well-connected some of the folks around here are

 

[CapstoneGrad06]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Link?

That was the consensus when James was committed. Since he's no longer in the fold, I think its a forgone conclusion Alabama will take two more offensive linemen. Damien Robinson, James Stone, and Arie Kouandjio the leaders for those two spots.

 

[BamaBoots]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

The whole thing comes down to being taught by Saban or being taught by Kiffin. Which one do you think has the better chance of getting you to the NFL? I think anyone can figure this one out.:BigA::BigA::BigA:

 

[time_4_the_TIDE]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Unless you are in contact with the coaches and the recruits and can pry solid information out of them, it is all speculation. I certainly would not call it inside knowledge UNLESS they are privy to that inside knowledge through a direct route to the coaches.
Just saying...

I am a newcomer to this site myself, I am only 27 years old. My wife works for one of the largest (under the radar) boosters at BAMA, I will keep him anonymous, but he played for Coach Bear in the 60's. He plays golf with Saban, his daughter stayed with George Lopez's daughter all summer. He also plays with Stuart Cink(a Florence native) and Samuel L. Jackson. My grandfather graduated high school with Pat Trammel and played football with him at Scottsboro High School. And it has nothing to do with BAMA but my father built Will Muschamp's father and mother's home on Little River in Mentone, AL. And some of these guys in here are privvy to info. that I don't even here about. I lean on a few of the members in here and in my short time here it has been easy for me to pick these select few out. I know exactly how Muschamp's departure from AU went down and it isn't anything like the public has been told, and I am just a child compared to most in here. The point is you never know who you are talking to....yeah it could be someone blowing smoke...or it could be someone who consistently calls out recruit commits weeks before they actually commit and haven't missed a single prospect since I have been here. Or someone like me who's grandfather calls and says, "Hey Pat Jr. called and gave me his box seats will you drive me to the game on Sat.?" Or my wife's boss who calls and says he has a horse show to go to or Pat Jr. called and we are going to be in the box with him would you like to go and use my season tickets?

 

[KrAzY3]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

It's not over. Our probationary window has been extended. We get caught sneezing in the wrong direction during that window and we're ska-rude.

Alabama fans, coaches and the like do have reason to be concerned, however incoming recruits? Let's look at USC for example, how long have they been waiting while obvious and significant violations have been looked into? Reggie Bush has been in the NFL for four years and yet the activities that went on while he was at USC still have not been punished. I'd think USC recruits would have reason to worry since hypothetically USC could get hammered on relatively short notice, but Alabama is not in that position.

The textbook thing is done, beforehand it could be a concern but now all we really have to worry about is what if something happens again. Incoming recruits need not worry themselves since the potential for future violations are no greater at Alabama than any other SEC school for example.

 

[bama6364]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

well, i hate it for the kid but having said that i think this should open a door for a kid that really "wants to play for alabama". i also wish him well and maybe we'll meet him down the road...

 

[Airborne Tider]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Regardless of where I get the information from, I will continue to share it on this site. This is the best Bama site on the web and I enjoy talking recruiting with the folks here. I will continue to share the info that I gather as long as the majority of people here still want to read it. RTR.

 

[CapstoneGrad06]

Regardless of where I get the information from, I will continue to share it on this site. This is the best Bama site on the web and I enjoy talking recruiting with the folks here. I will continue to share the info that I gather as long as the majority of people here still want to read it. RTR.

I certainly enjoy it.
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[Bamabuzzard]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Alabama fans, coaches and the like do have reason to be concerned, however incoming recruits? Let's look at USC for example, how long have they been waiting while obvious and significant violations have been looked into? Reggie Bush has been in the NFL for four years and yet the activities that went on while he was at USC still have not been punished. I'd think USC recruits would have reason to worry since hypothetically USC could get hammered on relatively short notice, but Alabama is not in that position.

The textbook thing is done, beforehand it could be a concern but now all we really have to worry about is what if something happens again. Incoming recruits need not worry themselves since the potential for future violations are no greater at Alabama than any other SEC school for example.

How the NCAA handles Alabama compared to USC isn't even comparable. They get treated on a different set of standards and so do we.

 

[BAMARICH]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

I have been an occassional lurker for years on here, only interested in joining the fray since we have been winning again (the membership base on TideFans has grown since Saban has been hired). I am not putting anyone down. Anyone can join pay sites and get information, read free blogs, etc. Unless you are in contact with the coaches and the recruits and can pry solid information out of them, it is all speculation. I certainly would not call it inside knowledge UNLESS they are privy to that inside knowledge through a direct route to the coaches.
Just saying...

Disagree with the entire premise that is highlighted in bold... because late last recruiting year, one of the players on our board totally threw the coaches a big curve in their "stated intentions" - and I'm talking about UA coaches.

"Inside information" is just that... someone has a relationship with someone that is close to the situation. Whether that be a relative, friend, business associate, coach, etc., they are privy to information that hasn't/won't be put out in public circles.

And yes... as someone earlier mentioned, we do have several guys on the site that ARE in the know on a lot of things. Not saying any one of them knows all about everything... but they know a lot about certain things.

 

[Airborne Tider]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

I certainly enjoy it.
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Thanks CG. I love this site and there have been occasions when I have gotten information from this site before I have gotten elsewhere. That's why I love this site and why I started posting here in the first place. I feel we have a good mix up people with reputable information and great opinions. I am just trying to do my part.

 

[Airborne Tider]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Disagree with the entire premise that is highlighted in bold... because late last recruiting year, one of the players on our board totally threw the coaches a big curve in their "stated intentions" - and I'm talking about UA coaches.

"Inside information" is just that... someone has a relationship with someone that is close to the situation. Whether that be a relative, friend, business associate, coach, etc., they are privy to information that hasn't/won't be put out in public circles.

And yes... as someone earlier mentioned, we do have several guys on the site that ARE in the know on a lot of things. Not saying any one of them knows all about everything... but they know a lot about certain things.

Nail, meet head. There were quite a few signing day "situations" last year that still tick me off every time I think about them. Oh well, water under the bridge. Those teams that were part of those "situations" aren't doing nearly as well as we are.

Rich you should stop by the recruiting board more often we miss your insight over here.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Disagree with the entire premise that is highlighted in bold... because late last recruiting year, one of the players on our board totally threw the coaches a big curve in their "stated intentions" - and I'm talking about UA coaches.

"Inside information" is just that... someone has a relationship with someone that is close to the situation. Whether that be a relative, friend, business associate, coach, etc., they are privy to information that hasn't/won't be put out in public circles.

And yes... as someone earlier mentioned, we do have several guys on the site that ARE in the know on a lot of things. Not saying any one of them knows all about everything... but they know a lot about certain things.

I completely agree with you Rich in your disagreement with SeattleBama's premise. In fact I started to reply with pretty much the same thing as you did but I figured if he really did believe what he said then he must not follow recruiting very closely so why bother.

I can name a whole lot of times where a coaching staff has been told one thing by a prospect in private only to find out rather quickly that the situation had changed after the situation was made public.

Here are some examples just from the 2009 Signing Class. Not only as I believe you were refering to above, the Greg Reid situation with him telling Bama coaches that he was going to commit to them the night before his announcement only to change at the last minute before his announcement to commit to FSU. Take Urban Meyer and Nu'Keese Richardson when Richardson was told by Kiffin to not tell anyone at his HS or Meyer that he was switching his commitment to UT on NSD. How about Janzen Jackson telling LSU coaches he was firmly committed to them and that he was signing with them on NSD only to surprisingly on NSD postpone his signing at the last minute and then the next day signing with Tennessee.

For some Bama signing examples, Eddie Lacy called the Tennessee coaches the morning of NSD to tell them that he was going to commit to them, then as he was about to announce he decided on Bama literally in the last few minutes before his announcement. Another example is Kenny Bell who was committed to LSU and two days prior to NSD he publically said he was still committed to LSU and he going to sign with them. He shocked Miles and LSU when he signed with Bama of NSD. This sort of thing happens every year, many times. CNS even admitted on NSD that he did not know for sure that Trent Richardson was going to sign with Bama but he thought he would.

The point is that following recruitment is a very fluid and constantly changing situation. It is not an exact science, it is an art of interpretaion of the many facts that you can find out. For example I posted on this board that Star Jackson said that CNS offered him a scholarship and told him he was his #1 choice for QB. That was before Scout.com even had Jackson listed as a Bama QB prospect. I found that out from an interview with Jackson in a South Florida newspaper right after CNS visited Jackson for evaluation. You have to get your information where and when you can. You have to seek out information and base you opinions on valid reports from all sorts of sources, not just what coaches or even what the prospects themselves say. That very often changes quite often.

 

[bama6364]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

airborne...you are the man...i'm not good at this so i count on people like you and the others to give me my "ALABAMA FIX"!!!...thanks for the info and people like me that just ride the board...dp

 

[SeattleBama]

Re: OT Jawuan James Update (9/28)

Good points from everyone. I don't know everything either.
Thanks for the input.
:BigA: