USC-Arizona State game

[BAMA1979]

This is an entertaining game so far. Arizona State is gaining momentum.

17-17 9:05 2nd quarter

 

[BAMA1979]

Usc 20-17

 

[Tideski]

Did you hear Sir Charles? Don't tell me that he does not keep up with football back in his old state. Yes, he talked a little smack but also knows what is going on in T-Town. Did you hear him say that the Saban controversy was all hipe and that Saban would "unfortunately" turn things around in Tuscaloosa.
Barkley knows whats coming...
All those barners know what is coming.....
All you barners visiting and reading this site, you better hope y'all can squeeze one more year out of this deal. You know this crap is coming to end.

 

[rpeastep]

Those 2 last passes may be killers, though. But ASU plays well when behind.

 

[Crimson Bourne]

Did you see the unsportsmanlike penalty on USC after the sack? The only thing the guy did was stand up and flex his biceps and they threw the flag. That has to be one of the most absurd penalties I have seen.

 

[BAMA1979]

Did you hear Sir Charles? Don't tell me that he does not keep up with football back in his old state. Yes, he talked a little smack but also knows what is going on in T-Town. Did you hear him say that the Saban controversy was all hipe and that Saban would "unfortunately" turn things around in Tuscaloosa.
Barkley knows whats coming...
All those barners know what is coming.....
All you barners visiting and reading this site, you better hope y'all can squeeze one more year out of this deal. You know this crap is coming to end.

He mentioned that he thought Saban was being treated unfairly. I was a little surprised to hear him say that, but Charles usually tells it like it is.

 

[BAMA1979]

27-17 USC at the half. USC turned it on in at the end of the 2nd quarter. Booty brought his A game tonight.

 

[Tideski]

Can you imagine if we had a picture of Jesus with Saban's face?

I guess there would be he11 to pay. Literally

 

[GulfCoastTider]

At one time, Neal McCready was voting Arizona State #1 on his AP ballot. Idiot.

"Overrated" is the word that comes to my mind. Not just for ASU, but for that entire, miserable conference. The PAC-10, like the Big 10, is a fraud.

There are only two real football conferences: The SEC, and the Big XII. The respective winners of those two conference championships should play for the NC every year, while everyone else goes to directional bowls.

 

[CrimsonDuck]

At one time, Neal McCready was voting Arizona State #1 on his AP ballot. Idiot.

"Overrated" is the word that comes to my mind. Not just for ASU, but for that entire, miserable conference. The PAC-10, like the Big 10, is a fraud.

There are only two real football conferences: The SEC, and the Big XII. The respective winners of those two conference championships should play for the NC every year, while everyone else goes to directional bowls.

Except USC is in the Pac 10...

 

[GulfCoastTider]

Except USC is in the Pac 10...

I rest my case...

 

[CaliforniaTide]

The Big 12 ain't that much different than the Pac-10, that is, if you're going to go with the overrated line. Kansas hasn't beaten anyone this year with a winning record and yet they're #2. Mizzou is slightly better, and OU has tanked in two extremely winnable games (although OU looked like they pulled a Oregon when they lose Bradford and had to put in Halzle, they just simply seemed to have given up) within the conference. Texas has looked average despite only losing 2 conference games and the rest of the Big 12 is just horrible. The Pac-10, on the other hand, had at one point two teams in the top 5 (and they've since tanked) and ASU is just simply being exposed by an actual good team. Oregon doesn't count because we all saw what happens when you eliminate Dixon from the game. Cal has somehow managed to lose 5 games after beating UT and Oregon, which begs the question of how in the heck did UT lose to Cal. Heck, USC should be undefeated if they hadn't gone bonkers against Stanford and Oregon.

The Pac-10 is better than the Big 12 this year based non-conference performance but not much is separating the two. Ohio State will get embarrassed by USC in the Rose Bowl.

 

[GulfCoastTider]

Using the SEC as a reference point, I think the Big XII is better top to bottom than every other conference, and this is a "body of work" comparison over the last several years.

There are more good programs in the SEC and Big XII than there are in any other conference. Nebraska and Texas A&M are down this year, but have traditionally fielded excellent football teams. Oklahoma, Texas, Colorado and Mizzou round out the top six. I think you'd be hard pressed to find six such programs in any other conference, except the SEC. The Pac-10 has USC, Cal, Oregon and UCLA. All good programs, each with their own troubles this year, but there is a significant drop off after those four.

The Big 10 has Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State and Wisconsin. Again, significant drop offs after those four. The ACC has Florida State, Virginia Tech, Boston College and Miami. Who has shown consistency after those four? Georgia Tech gets honorable mention.

The Big East is basically West Virginia's playground now.

None of the other BCS conferences can hold a candle to the SEC. The current top tier is LSU, Georgia, Florida and Auburn. The middle tier is Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina and Alabama (by a nose). The lower tier, MSU, Ole Miss, Kentucky and Vandy can play with and probably beat the middle tiers of any of the other conferences.

Over a consistent, body of work basis, the SEC Champ and the Big XII Champ would represent the best of the best, with occasional good runs made by the top teams from the other conferences.

JMO.