UT's run defense

[Tide&True]

I was just wondering if anyone has looked at the teams Texas played and what kind of running attack those teams had. It would be nice to see what their run/pass ratio was. Obviously the reason for my question is to see if those teams were primarily passing teams.

 

[rhm54]

Opponent              Score    Rush YDs/Texas Game    YDs Season    Rank
    
Louisiana-Monroe    59-20              101                        2208        31        
Wyoming               41-10               85                         1770        74
Texas Tech           34-24                4                          973        115
UTEP                     64-7                9                          1813        57
Colorado                38-14              42                         1055        113
Oklahoma               16-13             -16                         1691        69
Missouri                  41-7               74                          1586        82
Oklahoma State        41-14            134                         2301        23
UCF                        35-3              75                          1697        84
Baylor                     47-14             6                           1207        108
Kansas                    51-20            47                          1345        100
Texas A&M               49-39           190                         2394        29
Nebraska                  13-12            67                         1836        68

If you look at the stats above you will notice that teams with rushing games ranked above 31(La-Monroe, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma St.) All got above 100 yards against the longhorns. The other teams either never intended on running the ball or abandoned it early in the game because Texas jumped out to a big lead. Even though I am not a football expert, to me I don't think their run defense is as awesome as they would have you think. Just another thing to think about the average rushing offense rank of Texas's opponents is 73.3.

 

[twofbyc]

I was just wondering if anyone has looked at the teams Texas played and what kind of running attack those teams had. It would be nice to see what their run/pass ratio was. Obviously the reason for my question is to see if those teams were primarily passing teams.

I'm pretty sure Tejas didn't play any really strong running teams, with A&M possibly being the best (I would have to check that, though). Okie should have been, but Stoops knew going in to the season he had issues on his O-line, and it showed all season long.

 

[jps1983]

I don't know how to link threads, but this has been discussed in 504's thread, so I'd recommend looking there. For a quick summary of what's there if you don't want to go through all those pages:
1) They have the top ranked rushing D
2) They have played few if any top 50 rushing teams;
3) So their stats are still impressive, just take them with a grain of salt based on the teams they've played.

It's more detailed there, with stat breakdown, etc. but that is the gist of the info.

 

[bayoutider]

Even though I am not a football expert, to me I don't think their run defense is as awesome as they would have you think.

Muschamps is for real but I kind of agree with you in a sense, I don't think UT's run defense has been as severely tested as it will be when they play Alabama. We may be totally wrong and have to eat crow but till they show they can stop our run Bama will pound them. As we have noted in several other threads Alabama's offense is a more ballanced attack and in most cases use the pass to set up the run and Alabama will try to dominate the clock to keep McCoy off the field.

 

[Tide&True]

Opponent              Score    Rush YDs/Texas Game    YDs Season    Rank
    
Louisiana-Monroe    59-20              101                        2208        31        
Wyoming               41-10               85                         1770        74
Texas Tech           34-24                4                          973        115
UTEP                     64-7                9                          1813        57
Colorado                38-14              42                         1055        113
Oklahoma               16-13             -16                         1691        69
Missouri                  41-7               74                          1586        82
Oklahoma State        41-14            134                         2301        23
UCF                        35-3              75                          1697        84
Baylor                     47-14             6                           1207        108
Kansas                    51-20            47                          1345        100
Texas A&M               49-39           190                         2394        29
Nebraska                  13-12            67                         1836        68

If you look at the stats above you will notice that teams with rushing games ranked above 31(La-Monroe, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma St.) All got above 100 yards against the longhorns. The other teams either never intended on running the ball or abandoned it early in the game because Texas jumped out to a big lead. Even though I am not a football expert, to me I don't think their run defense is as awesome as they would have you think. Just another thing to think about the average rushing offense rank of Texas's opponents is 73.3.

Thanks so much rhm54!

 

[Hamilton]

They're probably good, but in no way should they be ranked #1.

 

[uafan4life]

This whole thread is good, but see my post about half-way down the page.


http://www.tidefans.com/forums/football/98557-interesting-offensive-stats-texas-vs-alabama-2.html

 

[UnNFormedFan]

I think that they may be able to hang with our O Line for maybe 2.5 to maybe 3 quarters, but after that, I am not so sure that they have the depth to handle 60 minutes of our pounding. If we can control the line of scrimmage keep McCoy on the sidelines, I think that midway thru the third quarter, we will be running at will. McElroy has to control the ball and play sound fundamental football much as he did in the SECCG in order for Alabama to walk away with a win here.

 

[Longhorn93]

I think that they may be able to hang with our O Line for maybe 2.5 to maybe 3 quarters, but after that, I am not so sure that they have the depth to handle 60 minutes of our pounding. If we can control the line of scrimmage keep McCoy on the sidelines, I think that midway thru the third quarter, we will be running at will. McElroy has to control the ball and play sound fundamental football much as he did in the SECCG in order for Alabama to walk away with a win here.

Running at will? Really?

Let me tell you guys something. I know I'm on a Bama board and I expect some hyperbole, but rest assured that there will be no running at will on the Texas D. Depth is not a problem either.

Bama will have a very difficult time moving the ball IMO, as will Texas. There might be some unexpected scoring early, but when the defenses settle in, it will be tough sledding. Special teams and turnovers decide this game. It's going to be close. I like having Colt in a close game.

 

[UnNFormedFan]

Running at will? Really?

Let me tell you guys something. I know I'm on a Bama board and I expect some hyperbole, but rest assured that there will be no running at will on the Texas D. Depth is not a problem either.

Bama will have a very difficult time moving the ball IMO, as will Texas. There might be some unexpected scoring early, but when the defenses settle in, it will be tough sledding. Special teams and turnovers decide this game. It's going to be close. I like having Colt in a close game.

Didn't mean for that to be insulting, so my apologies if you were. I can only go by what I have seen in Bama's play. Will have to say I have not watched a lot of UT, but it was only an opinion. I agree it will be a close one and a war at that. I was only stating as I see it from my point of view. I may havemissed the boat, but I hope not.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Didn't mean for that to be insulting, so my apologies if you were. I can only go by what I have seen in Bama's play. Will have to say I have not watched a lot of UT, but it was only an opinion. I agree it will be a close one and a war at that. I was only stating as I see it from my point of view. I may havemissed the boat, but I hope not.

No reason to apologize for feeling optimistic about your team. You'll see a lot more ebullient optimism on the Texas boards than you'll ever see here. I can provide quotes...

 

[UnNFormedFan]

No reason to apologize for feeling optimistic about your team. You'll see a lot more ebullient optimism on the Texas boards than you'll ever see here. I can provide quotes...

Always makes me nervous to see the Admin posting in my thread right after reading the "not a smack talk forum" thread.

 

[Titans&Tide]

Running at will? Really?

Yep. Really. Ask Florida about the running at will thing. We'll run for at least 2 bills on the Horns. Mark it down.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Always makes me nervous to see the Admin posting in my thread right after reading the "not a smack talk forum" thread.

Not to worry. This UT fan seems to be in a particularly easy-to-offend mood tonight. Because of the caliber of the opposition they've gone up against, UT is the team which is going into this game with a portfolio to prove. If that weren't the case, they'd be favored, particularly with a huge, deep-pocketed betting base (which is holding the line down to five). They may have a run defense equal to the ones we've seen, but they're not going to prove it with bluster (BTW, just avoid UT boards) - they'll have to prove it on the field...

 

[RTR91]

Running at will? Really?

Let me tell you guys something. I know I'm on a Bama board and I expect some hyperbole, but rest assured that there will be no running at will on the Texas D. Depth is not a problem either.

Bama will have a very difficult time moving the ball IMO, as will Texas. There might be some unexpected scoring early, but when the defenses settle in, it will be tough sledding. Special teams and turnovers decide this game. It's going to be close. I like having Colt in a close game.

Not to be smack talk but Bama did run at will against Florida. The same defense that was number one in the nation until the SECCG.

 

[dvldog]

Not to be smack talk but Bama did run at will against Florida. The same defense that was number one in the nation until the SECCG.

concur, and to some extent this was enabled our PASSING game. Remember we opened the game w/4 wides. We are balanced. So while they may that the "No. 1?" run defense, they will have to defend the whole field, a variety of sets, and multiple skilled players. Good luck w/that.:biggrin2:

 

[teamplayer]

Opponent              Score    Rush YDs/Texas Game    YDs Season    Rank
    
Louisiana-Monroe    59-20              101                        2208        31        
Wyoming               41-10               85                         1770        74
Texas Tech           34-24                4                          973        115
UTEP                     64-7                9                          1813        57
Colorado                38-14              42                         1055        113
Oklahoma               16-13             -16                         1691        69
Missouri                  41-7               74                          1586        82
Oklahoma State        41-14            134                         2301        23
UCF                        35-3              75                          1697        84
Baylor                     47-14             6                           1207        108
Kansas                    51-20            47                          1345        100
Texas A&M               49-39           190                         2394        29
Nebraska                  13-12            67                         1836        68

If you look at the stats above you will notice that teams with rushing games ranked above 31(La-Monroe, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma St.) All got above 100 yards against the longhorns. The other teams either never intended on running the ball or abandoned it early in the game because Texas jumped out to a big lead. Even though I am not a football expert, to me I don't think their run defense is as awesome as they would have you think. Just another thing to think about the average rushing offense rank of Texas's opponents is 73.3.

This is another example of why people say there are three types of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. If Texas can stop our running game, we will be forced to say congratulations. However, if they think stopping our running game is like some of these teams they have played, they are in for a big surprise.

 

[buzzincuzzin]

Always makes me nervous to see the Admin posting in my thread right after reading the "not a smack talk forum" thread.

Yogi Berra........ "If you can do it,,, it ain't braggin!"

 

[RTR91]

True, but you aren’t painting the entire picture.

We had 3 games where we allowed 100+ yards in rushing:

LaMo- Starters pulled midway through the 3rd quarter
OSU- Starters pulled after Earl Thomas ran an INT back for a TD in the 3rd quarter.
Texas a&m- 97 of their 190 yards came from Jerrod Johnson, their QB, who runs a zone-read/option attack

In fact, out of 12 games played thus far, the defensive starters never got past the 11:37 minute mark of the 4th quarter in 8 of the contests. (ou, NU, a&m and Tech being the exceptions) Unless McElroy has converted from a pocket passer in the last month, I don’t see a repeat of the a&m game. (Dual threat between a power RB and a mobile QB to account for)

I’m not saying that it’s an apples to apples comparison. But don’t sell this defensive unit short. They are stouter than Auburn and Tennessee, two teams that kept y’all at bay.

If Bama is forced to beat us through the air, I like our chances. A lot.

Florida is stouter than Auburn and Tennessee too.

Also, our starting RB's were out of the games early too. And Greg has made some nice scrambles this year when defenses haven't accounted for his running ability (ala Florida along the sideline).

Glad to know you have figured out the way to beat Bama. Stop the run and force Greg to throw. I tell you I'm glad somebody figured that one out after 13 games. :rolleye2: