News Article: Very interesting USAToday take on UT's "extra second..."

tidefan39817

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me thinks Suh should have slowed up and not pressured Mcoy so much....
think about it, if he hadn't been so fixed on getting anothe QB sack and let Mcoy take one more step....nobody would be having this debate.

it's Suh's fault that Nebraska lost....

ok, sarcasm off....
 

GMacFan

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I'm surprised Mack hasn't gotten more criticism. His actions the last minute of that game were completely Les-Miles like (although at least he didn't lie about it afterwards, which IMO was unacceptable on Les' part). I mean think of all that was at stake, a shot at the NC game, but he didn't try to run a play in a hurry or take a timeout. Then Colt just took his sweet time in a crucial situation, watching the game from my dorm I was wondering what was going on, I thought I was hallucinating. If he would have taken a little more time (which he wasn't in a hurry in the first place), it would've been game Nebraska. You just don't leave things like that to chance.
 

Alasippi

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Sigh .... Alasippi, the official DID signal that the ball is incomplete with one second on the clock. Here is video proof.

Click on the link. Stop it at the 23 or 24 second mark. Look at the official on the far left hand side of the screen, upper left. He is signaling incomplete pass while THERE is CLEARLY still one second left on the clock.


YouTube - Texas Longhorns vs Nebraska Cornhuskers (Dec 5th 2009) Full Ending

I assume you're a Texas fan It was very close. I've just never seen one quite like that. At any rate. let me say that I too am glad we're playing Texas. There's no doubt in my mind, that even if it was a wrong call, which it may not have been, we're playing the team we should be playing. TCU nor Cincinnatti is nowhere close to Texas in my opinion.

So no hard feelings. I was just stating an opinion.

sip
 

Austin_Horn

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Interesting story. I'm one who, right or wrong, feel like they blew the call.
To me, a pass is incomplete and the clock stops, not when the ball hits the ground but when the official recognizes that the ball has hit the ground , blows his whistle and signals incomplete pass.
So if a player calls a timeout before the play clock expires, the ref sees it and whistles the play dead but after time on the play clock has run off is it a delay of game penalty? You can be assured this will happen once a week during football season.

Or how about this. Your QB is running to the sideline and takes a full step out of bounds but before the whistle can be blown the linebacker knocks the you know what out of him. Is that a penalty? How can it be a penalty if the ref hasn't blown his whistle yet?

Here is the explanation. NOBODY cares about 1-2 seconds in the middle of the first half.

When 90% of the people who watch the game think it was the right call and you disagree, chances are it is YOU who is wrong... just sayin'.
 

Austin_Horn

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IF that were the last play of the game, that would be the only throw in Mccoy's career that anyone would have remembered.

Talk about 1 second a hero in Austin, the next second and 20 years later its a LACES OUT life for Colt.

One second can truly change your life.
We are all too familiar with what one second can get you. If you remember last year it was Texas Tech that a second left to spare.
 

NativeTider

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But the play was whistled dead with time on the clock. The time running off was a scoreboard operator error.
Sigh .... Alasippi, the official DID signal that the ball is incomplete with one second on the clock. Here is video proof.

Click on the link. Stop it at the 23 or 24 second mark. Look at the official on the far left hand side of the screen, upper left. He is signaling incomplete pass while THERE is CLEARLY still one second left on the clock.


YouTube - Texas Longhorns vs Nebraska Cornhuskers (Dec 5th 2009) Full Ending
You boys better send Ndamukong Suh a thank you card. Had he not hurried McCoy into making that throw y'all would be sittin at the house on Jan. 7th.
 

Bamabuzzard

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It's much like when a coach or player calls time out with "one second" left on the clock. When is the clock suppose to stop? Does it stop AFTER the coach/player has signaled time out and the ref has FINISHED going through his signaling a time out has been called? The clock stops at the point when the ref initiates his signal to stop the clock. Which is exactly what the video shows. There was one second left when the ref began signaling the play was over.

The right call was made.
 

Redwood Forrest

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It is strange, just like many calls in each game that don't end up being reviewed. As fans we're told that every play is reviewed, but that's simply not true. I see plays every game that at least deserve to be reviewed, but most of the time, only the ones that make a difference in the outcome are reviewed, such as the one at the end of the Big12CG.

You say in all the years you've watched college football.... but replay has only been around a few years, and plays like the one in the UT-NU game are 1 in a million. When is the last time you remember watching a game where the QB threw a ball out of bounds like that and there was a dispute about how much time was on the clock? Off the top of my head, I can't recall one such occasion. Not saying one hasn't happened, just that it's rare.

The right call was made. Replay exist for a reason, to make sure the calls are corrected. There was 1 second left on the clock when the ball hit the ground, that is indisputable. The ref signaled incomplete pass with 1 second left, that is also undisputable. I don't see why, with this much undisputable evidence, people can't accept the fact that the refs made the right decision to put time back on the clock. Should a game be decided because the guy in the booth made an error in judgement? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
Upon futher review, I should have said "since replay/review was introduced I have never seen a throw-away pass reviewed." I still think Nebraska got robbed. What kind of think is this? Only review critical plays? We are taught that every play is critical, are we not?

You know, like the HC tells the team EVERY PLAY is important, give 110% every play. Then the HC calls a "take-the-knee" play with 18 seconds left on the clock in the FIRST HALF. Duh.
 

TiderMan

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I am just sick and tired of Colt McCoy, Mack Brown, and the Texas fans trying to justify the mistake by McCoy. Just own up and say that your QB and head coach just about screwed up and blew the game and that you are fortunate that they have replay review. It just bothers me when they say that they knew what they were doing or they knew there would be a second or two left. In any case, the majority of Bama fans like myself were rooting for Texas and wanted to play Texas in the BCS title game. We also feel that they are fortunate to be in the game because of this play.
 

RedStar

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I am just sick and tired of Colt McCoy, Mack Brown, and the Texas fans trying to justify the mistake by McCoy. Just own up and say that your QB and head coach just about screwed up and blew the game and that you are fortunate that they have replay review. It just bothers me when they say that they knew what they were doing or they knew there would be a second or two left. In any case, the majority of Bama fans like myself were rooting for Texas and wanted to play Texas in the BCS title game. We also feel that they are fortunate to be in the game because of this play.
What are you talking about? Immediately following the game Mack Brown admitted exactly what you're now asking him to admit. I think all the Texas fans feel fortunate, if not all, I'm sure the majority.
 

RedStar

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Upon futher review, I should have said "since replay/review was introduced I have never seen a throw-away pass reviewed." I still think Nebraska got robbed. What kind of think is this? Only review critical plays? We are taught that every play is critical, are we not?

You know, like the HC tells the team EVERY PLAY is important, give 110% every play. Then the HC calls a "take-the-knee" play with 18 seconds left on the clock in the FIRST HALF. Duh.
I understand what you're saying, but if we took that mentality, the games on CBS would last closer to 6 hours. You can't review every time seconds run off the clock, but you can review the critical moments.

The refs on the field signaled for the clock to stop at :01 second, what am I missing? It's happened 1,000 times in college basketball. Time gets put back on the clock during critical moments, but not 10 seconds into the game.
 

J.E.B. Stuart

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That extra second also probably cost Cincy their head coach. If Texas loses maybe Cincy plays in the NC game, and would their coach have left the school with it going to the NC game over the ND job? If he had stayed, won the NC game, would he then have left for ND? Strange questions would have popped up on that one.
 

GMacFan

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What are you talking about? Immediately following the game Mack Brown admitted exactly what you're now asking him to admit. I think all the Texas fans feel fortunate, if not all, I'm sure the majority.
However, Colt was still very confident in his play. He said he "knew" there was "one or TWO" seconds left on the clock. He never showed any doubt and didn't make any admissions of sloppy or unfocused play. I hope he plays like that against us.
 

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Not putting one second back on the clock would have been the wrong thing to do. There was :01 second left on the clock when the ref signaled time out.


That extra second also probably cost Cincy their head coach. If Texas loses maybe Cincy plays in the NC game, and would their coach have left the school with it going to the NC game over the ND job? If he had stayed, won the NC game, would he then have left for ND? Strange questions would have popped up on that one.
 

RedStar

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However, Colt was still very confident in his play. He said he "knew" there was "one or TWO" seconds left on the clock. He never showed any doubt and didn't make any admissions of sloppy or unfocused play. I hope he plays like that against us.
His post clearly includes Mack Brown and Texas fans. Those two entities have both repeatedly said how fortunate they feel that they won that game.

He is, however, right on about Colt. And I can understand the annoyance directed at him. There's no way McCoy knew how much time was left and there's no way he'll ever come out and admit it publicly.
 

TiderMan

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What are you talking about? Immediately following the game Mack Brown admitted exactly what you're now asking him to admit. I think all the Texas fans feel fortunate, if not all, I'm sure the majority.
I watched the ending again and neither one admitted a mistake or a near mistake was made. It doesn't matter but I just like when people own up to their mistakes and not pass it off like that is the way they planned it.
 

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We all know that it's not unusual at all for time to be put back on the clock in a college football game when time shouldn't be running, especially in critical situations. No different in this case. Correct call was made.
 

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If nothing else, I'll bet that this is a lesson learned by Texas and all coaches who saw this play. QB's also! If I had been coaching for Texas that play would have never happened.

I'll bet it never happens to Colt McCoy again.

This was poor clock management by Coach Brown and Colt McCoy. He sure is lucky that he threw the ball when he did.

I just wish we had had Official Reviews back in 1964 at the Orange bowl when Namath did really score for Bama to actually Beat TEXAS!

But if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

I'm just looking for a Happy New Year!

Again, it is my prayer that there are lotsa SAD faces (tears, etc.) on Texas sideline when the clocks ticks 00:00 on Thursday, January 7, 2010. It's my prayer also that on the other sideline that Bama players and coaches are smiling, excited beyond belief, and celebrating a VICTORY!
 

herri026

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Yeah at some point it makes you wonder when they are going to take all the actual officials off the field and do it all solely watching cameras in a booth somewhere.

Either way, :01 left or not, Nebraska totally laid an egg at the end of that game by 1)kicking the ball out of bounds and 2)horse-collaring the UT player. When you do silly, needless things, you put yourself in position to get beat in a fluke-like manner. I hate it for them, but the Huskers beat themselves.
 

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If nothing else, I'll bet that this is a lesson learned by Texas and all coaches who saw this play. QB's also! If I had been coaching for Texas that play would have never happened.

I'll bet it never happens to Colt McCoy again.

This was poor clock management by Coach Brown and Colt McCoy. He sure is lucky that he threw the ball when he did.

I just wish we had had Official Reviews back in 1964 at the Orange bowl when Namath did really score for Bama to actually Beat TEXAS!

But if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

I'm just looking for a Happy New Year!

Again, it is my prayer that there are lotsa SAD faces (tears, etc.) on Texas sideline when the clocks ticks 00:00 on Thursday, January 7, 2010. It's my prayer also that on the other sideline that Bama players and coaches are smiling, excited beyond belief, and celebrating a VICTORY!
They owe their NC chance to the fact that Suh wasn't .1 second faster. If he hadn't pressed McCoy to throw the ball when he did, game over...
 

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