(VOTE) Greatest College Football Coaches Ever

selmaborntidefan

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I just counted it up. Tom Osborne is basically Houston Nutt with 3 national championships.

From 1973-1984, he was 28-22 against teams that ended the year with eight wins. And MOST of those wins game from 1981-84, one specific class. He actually had a losing record against 8-win foes in the 1970s.

Then he got REALLY bad from 1985-1993 by compiling a 13-17-1 record against 8-win foes (I'm not counting the Northern Illinois game in 1991 because that's a joke). So Tom Osborne - allegedly one of the greatest ever coaches - has a record pre-1994 against 8-win teams of 41-39-1. Basically, a .500 ball coach against good competition, and I would argue that some of those 8-win foes weren't even all that good but benefited from soft schedules themselves (several of those were against CU and OU in years those teams only won 8 games total, not 9, 10, or 11).

Now he did finish out at 14-1 against 8-win foes from 1994-1997 when he won three national championships. But he didn't really play all that many good foes. 15 eight-win teams in 53 games. That's not to take away from what was clearly a stellar team at the end of his career, but four years does not an all-time great make. Osborne made his name by hanging 60 points on the Little Sisters of the Poor repeatedly through the years. (His lone loss to a good team in his last four years was to Arizona State in 1996 - when they got shut out).

This shows that Osborne made his name primarily upon two recruiting classes around 1980 and two more around 1992. Hardly the long-term success story of a Bryant (national titles in the 60s and 70s, and in contention for one on the final day of the 1981 season), Rockne or Wilkinson.
 

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My evaluation is based on 4 components: Character building/academic emphasis, Organizational skills, Innovation in the game, and Win/Loss (specifically in the big game when it matters).

The top 10 hits on all aspects:

1) The Bear: he is credited with developing the defensive numbering system that is used by most defenses today, everything else need not be mentioned.
2) Knute Rockne: Life cut short by tragedy, nothing but a winner, emphasized character, modified single wing into ND Box look.
3) Saban: I know I'm biased, but his character and organizational attributes are off the charts. He is a defense trend setter, and 2 NC's to his credit.
4) Bud Wilkinson: The streak, emphasized character and academics, perfected the wishbone, famous for accounting for each minute of practice.
5) Darrell Royal: Bryant called this guy for the wishbone info, of course it was his coordinator that actually invented it. Winner.
6) John McKay: Actually debated the 5&6 spots here, Mckay made the Power play a staple of run oriented offenses.
7) Joe Pa: Admittedly he is light on innovation, but how can you deny him a top 10 spot, he excell in every other category.
8) Urban Meyer: His innovation on the spread has taken football by storm with its option elements. organized and a winner. lacks emphasis on character.
9) Steve Spurrier: Mouse Davis invented the Run and Shoot. Spurrier tweaked it to be more balanced, calling it Fun and Gun. Better early in his career.
10) Frank Beamer: special teams is important too and his DC has made an impact with his "robber 2" coverage.

11 thru 15 offered no innovation, standing on the shoulders of those who came before them, they were winners but contributed little to posterity of the game in program organizational methods or schematic innovations.

11) Switzer: big time winner, strong organization skills, not very innovative.
12) Osborne: another winner and disciplinarian that just didn't innovate.
13) Woody Hayes: Won alot of games, but was very eccentric and ended his career in disgrace.
14) Holtz: He knows the game, he was a winner at ND, but not innovative, really tried to build better men.
15) Schembechler: Crazy huh? his record is great, character guy, but could not win the big games, no innovation to speak of.
15) Pete Carroll: Can't deny his success, personality more suited to NFL, no discipline, did he recruit well or did LA and the ladies.

17 thru 20 have questionable recruiting tactics or are generally "light" on discipline. Its easy to build a winner with a bunch of thugs that can run fast, but to build one that creates men of character while still winning ball games takes a real coach IMO. Also, some of these guys walked right into a perfect situation.

17) Bowden: Built FSU but at what cost? How many stories of thugs gone wild. I believe he is a good guy, just a players coach.
18) Mack Brown: Same as Bowden, except walked into the easiest recruiting job in the country. weak conference, play a big game outside the state!
19) Jim Tressel: Yep same as Mack. except they will travel. However The Ohio St is currently under investigation.
20) Jimmy Johnson: Responsible for the original Thug U, no discipline and doesn't care, there's more to coaching than a W/L column.

117) Chizick: Can one man be any luckier/dirtier? He needs an endorsement from bubble yum, because chewing gum is the extent of his coaching.
 

BAMA1979

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I think Frank Beamer is getting way too much credit. There is no way he is a top 15 all-time coach. He's lost every important game he's ever coached in. I think a lot of people would also be surprised about how many times his special teams make mistakes in big games. He is 1-19 against top 5 teams. That's 1-19!
 

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I'm not one who considers longevity that much. A coach shouldn't be penalized because he accomplishes a ton in a shorter period of time.

With that in mind my top ten are...

(1) Paul Bryant
(2) Nick Saban
(3) Bud Wilkinson
(4) Joe Pa
(5) Rockne
(6) Bobby Bowden
(7) Darrell Royal
(8) John McKay
(9) Woody Hayes
(10) Steve Spurrier

I also think Larry Blakeney is one of the most under rated coaches in history.

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Never. Kyle Whittingham was the Utah coach. Meyer beat us that same year in Atlanta. Those were consecutive games.
Yes, I know. The ESPN website states that "Urban Meyer led Utah to an undefeated season and Sugar Bowl win over Alabama." I was just wondering, and I guess I will continue to wonder, if I am the only person who noticed this.
 

Con

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It's Bear #1, Rockne #2, and then the rest don't matter so much. Of all the sports "Best Ever" rankings, nowhere is #1 and #2 so obvious than for college football coaches.
I am with you on these two. When I voted Rockne was way too low. To many people don't know their college football history.
 

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