Was the season a success anyway?
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I agree a million percent, buttttt, I want too see Simpson playing behind a good OLINE..
I don't care who our QB is, if they're not giving the time, too run our offense & we have zero running game..
The offense will be crap no matter who our QB is..
It actually makes you more impressed with what Milroe, was able too accomplish, behind a crappy OLINE running for his life from defenses..
I gotta feeling our problems isn't so much a talent issue..It's a lack of commitment from this coaching staff from a physicality aspect..
When you get manhandled at the LOS, in all phases of the game, you get beat in big boy football..
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You are so right. That game could have been the 38-3 beatdown if OU hadn't just crapped all over themselves. Guess we were waiting on IU to implode last night.
It's hard to find clarity when your head is still spinning.
The focus seems to be on 3 losses: FSU, Georgia and IU.
FSU: I have no explanation for what happened there. I don't know if anybody does. Even CKD. But we bounced back and rectified in a way that NOBODY last Aug. 31 thought was possible!
Georgia in the SECCG: We were beat to a pulp. Combine that with Georgia being as fired up about not losing to us again and we had virtually no way of winning that game. We would have been much better not "winning the regular season SEC" and being in that game. But the reason we won the SEC regular season is WE BEAT GEORGIA when we were healthy. If Georgia is the team alot of people think we measure ourselves against, we beat them when we had a healthy QB and a OL that played a good game.
IU: They were a complete team and their OL was the "star" of it. To me, this is the most glaring, obvious difference in them and us. They didn't do anything spectacular except block and run the ball. We don't have an OL that will allow for that. Full stop! That is the difference...plus our QB was playing with multiple injuries and got hurt during the game. This was the game the dam broke.
I'm not trying to be a sunshine pumper, but I think I'm being realistic. We are NOT going to win a NC every year. Couldn't even do that with CNS; the goat, when the college football conditions and playing field were controlled/ruled by him. Now, a team that's named Oregon, Miami, OM or IU will be crowned champions. How many of you had those four teams in your preseason final four bracket? Welcome to the new world.
But, back to us and this team's accomplishments. We won 11 games without a servicable OL that couldn't push a DL back to get a 3rd and 1 ALL YEAR LONG! And in the rare times they did, our RBs were so hesitant or blind they couldn't see the hole. And, to top it off, our starting QB, who early in the year was at the top of the Heisman conversation, got hurt and played injured the rest of the year.
And yet, we still beat some good teams, played in the SECCG, made the CFP for the first time under CKD...all with a broken offense and a dadgum good defense!
The focus seems to be on 3 losses: FSU, Georgia and IU.
FSU: I have no explanation for what happened there. I don't know if anybody does. Even CKD. But we bounced back and rectified in a way that NOBODY last Aug. 31 thought was possible!
Georgia in the SECCG: We were beat to a pulp. Combine that with Georgia being as fired up about not losing to us again and we had virtually no way of winning that game. We would have been much better not "winning the regular season SEC" and being in that game. But the reason we won the SEC regular season is WE BEAT GEORGIA when we were healthy. If Georgia is the team alot of people think we measure ourselves against, we beat them when we had a healthy QB and a OL that played a good game.
IU: They were a complete team and their OL was the "star" of it. To me, this is the most glaring, obvious difference in them and us. They didn't do anything spectacular except block and run the ball. We don't have an OL that will allow for that. Full stop! That is the difference...plus our QB was playing with multiple injuries and got hurt during the game. This was the game the dam broke.
I'm not trying to be a sunshine pumper, but I think I'm being realistic. We are NOT going to win a NC every year. Couldn't even do that with CNS; the goat, when the college football conditions and playing field were controlled/ruled by him. Now, a team that's named Oregon, Miami, OM or IU will be crowned champions. How many of you had those four teams in your preseason final four bracket? Welcome to the new world.
But, back to us and this team's accomplishments. We won 11 games without a servicable OL that couldn't push a DL back to get a 3rd and 1 ALL YEAR LONG! And in the rare times they did, our RBs were so hesitant or blind they couldn't see the hole. And, to top it off, our starting QB, who early in the year was at the top of the Heisman conversation, got hurt and played injured the rest of the year.
And yet, we still beat some good teams, played in the SECCG, made the CFP for the first time under CKD...all with a broken offense and a dadgum good defense!
Exactly! The WAY we are losing is unacceptable at Bama.
Yes, penalties went down, the defense was fairly solid, and the offense gave glimpses of what a good passing attack can do.
Areas that need work were also identified.
Areas that need work were also identified.
Yes, being competative and not loking totally inept.
I thought that I could consider the season a success by making the playoff and getting the win against OU, but the way we got completely exposed and totally embarrassed yesterday makes me wonder if it actually was a success.
Lack of preparation and focus has been a concern all season, and yesterday was about as bad as we could have been in both areas.
Yesterday was an indictment of DeBoer and his staff.
It was a disaster, but we're stuck with him for a least another season.
We shall see how things go in the future, but right now he's on that flaming hot seat from the Fansville ad in my opinion.
Lack of preparation and focus has been a concern all season, and yesterday was about as bad as we could have been in both areas.
Yesterday was an indictment of DeBoer and his staff.
It was a disaster, but we're stuck with him for a least another season.
We shall see how things go in the future, but right now he's on that flaming hot seat from the Fansville ad in my opinion.
The smashed us the way we used to smash teams...nothing fancy, nothing exotic...they just lined up and whipped our butts for 60 minutes and by the middle of the 3rd quarter we had basically quit.
Alabama’s flaws have been known for o er half the season. A veteran group of college football players took advantage of them.
Someone pointed out that this Indiana team has a lot of parallels to the 2009 Alabama team: solid, if unspectacular offense, mean defense, and the motivation of coming up just short the year before.
Yep. Them and Miami.
Old school OL/DL domination in the trenches.
Our defense can get better/deeper, but we all know the real issue is overhauling the OL. STAT!
We knew what areas needed improvement before the season started and the most glaring was the OL. I don't think there was much if any improvement there.
I’m on the S&C bandwagon now as well.
Kyle Whittingham was on ESPN and they asked him about changing the program at Michigan and he said it started with hiring the right S&C coach, that’s where it all began.
So, full course reversal for me, if that’s what it takes to establish physicality, so be it. Grind them, and the ones that don’t crumble get to play.
Transfers were brought in that didn’t pan out, freshmen got some experience, and things will get better.
The line coach needs to go, no doubt. Even if he’s teaching the correct technique, it’s not reaching the players and that’s all that matters in the end.
Alabama doesn’t have the necessary resources to fix the line in one season.
Indiana - fourth and fifth year guys on the line
Miami - rich boosters
Oregon - rich boosters
Ole Miss - played Georgia.
I seem to recall the Georgia left tackle pulling a Proctor last night and looking inside while the guy lined up in front of him rushed and sacked Stockton.
I think the S & C is vital to the culture...if you watch the Netflix doc about the UF days with Tebow or the old 80's Miami teams...they developed their team culture in the weight room...they were there in the middle of the night, or after a loss and held each other accountable...today's players arent really built from that cloth but there is no reason a culture cannot be established in a similar manner. It starts with the HC not making excuses and talking about fine lines after a whooping.
All of this, plus: we're in the playoff era now and success in the playoffs is how a team like Bama will be judged. 7-3 used to be a good season and 10-win seasons were great. An 11-win season is no longer what it once was. You either progress in the playoffs and win or the season is not a success. The paradigm has shifted.
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