No way to disagree with him on that statement. Might stretch it out to more than a decade, but he is on the right track.
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Give Milroe Coop, good o-line and Kiffen and he's basically Blake Sims.
No way to disagree with him on that statement. Might stretch it out to more than a decade, but he is on the right track.
disagree - Blake didn't have nearly the absolute arm strength NILroe does, but Sims was way, way better at understanding the offense, knowing the calls and protections, seeing and understanding the D alignment pre and post snap to make reads and know where he should go with the ball - he wasn't Tua/Mac/BY in that regard, cause they were all extremely good at it - but he had what a college QB needed to have in that aspect. Sims was also significantly more precise and accurate in the short and intermediate game, even though he did throw a pretty nice rainbow deep ball as well. If Sims had NILroe's raw arm strength he probably wins the heisman.
It wasn't a direct comparison but they are way more similar than not. You are giving Sims a lot of credit, he read Coops route and ran if he was covered, which was rarely, Coop had 110+ catches. Kiffen kept it pretty simple. Bama's running game was way better back then too. Again not a direct comparison, not saying one is better than the other.
Well said - thanks.
A big plus is that Blake Sims loved Alabama and his teammates and would have never done anything to hurt them. He was an incredible breath of fresh air who didn’t seem to have a selfish bone in his body. If he had been relegated to backup, IMO, he would have done anything to help Jake and been happy for him. (I don’t have any inside info but that it how it appeared from afar.)
No, they really are not at all similar. Other than both being pretty fast, with NILroe being faster, they have almost the exact opposite strengths and weaknesses.
NILroe - cannon for an arm. Amazing straight line speed. Very little shiftiness or wiggle when running. Zero finess on the ball. Low short range accuracy. Doesn't know how to set protections or make more than the absolute most simple read. Refused to change positions when coaches advised him he should. Can't make the read on the edge player, nor the coverage LB or S to effectively run the IZR/OZR and RPO playbook to the degree that CTR took the read option away from him since he got it wrong so often.
Sims - only moderate arm strength. Above average speed, but also pretty darn shifty. Good (not great, but good) finesse passing and good short range accuracy. Able to set protections and make reads, even in the pre-radio in helmet era where QBs had to know and do more on their own, on where to go with the ball. Played whatever position the coaches asked him to, whenever he was asked to. Was extremely proficient at the IZR/OZR reads on the edge player, progressing reading to the coverage LB or S to execute the RPO.
Again - almost nothing alike.
Also - per the thought of Coop being rarely covered. that's true, but on a vast majority of plays this year, Sheridan had schemed someone open. WRs were doing what was needed. I fully believe that Sims would have at least known that, and where to go, and tried to get the ball there (again, not the strongest arm, but adequate), where what we saw this year was NILroe not even trying to make the throw. I also think that both CTR and Sheridan, could have leveraged the things that Sims was capable or doing to have a vastly more effective offense that what we had the last 2 years.
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I just don't see Kiffin leaving Milroe in at QB all year without making a change.
not unless he was forced to by external circumstances.
Unless he had the gonads to make the change and deal with the consequences later.
yeah - come to think of it, it would have been interesting to see what might have happened if we had a more consistent presence at OC. I'd bet that had BOB not moved on (although kinda glad he did), that he wouldn't have let things play out as they did.
Well we already know the answer and that is Kiffin would totally check out when he finds out that he has a quarterback that can’t run his offense and he can’t make the change. You saw it with Jalen Hurts in 2016.
You see folks, we have hit the core of the argument. It was never about actually having a discussion and it was always about having a “leave Brittney alone” rant.
I’m just curious what forum you could possibly find where the exact same conversations are happening, but with far less moderation.
My big question is, was Sheridan just doing the best he could with what he had to work with? Maybe good plays were called, but never executed correctly. When receivers all over the place are throwing their hands up in frustration, perhaps the buck stops with the QB, not the play that was called. I guess we won't know for sure until we see some competent QB play.
That's where I have landed. I get the flow was sometimes off, but he didn't have that many options the QB could execute. His calls were getting guys open on passes that a college QB has to be able to make. Sheridan can't make the throws himself.
I mean, this happened last year during the Texas game and CTR is likely to get a promotion in the NFL after this season after one as the passing game specialist so I don't think the issue was him.
That's frustration with NILroe not being able to do what's needed. Nothing more.
Hahaha....I remember watching Reese in the booth when they cut to him during the Texas game and he just had no answer for what to do. There's only so much to scheme or call when you can only run 5-10% of the offense.
Like with Rees, I'm giving Sheridian a pass because the offense looked a lot like it did last season under Rees, which tells me one thing. They both reached the same conclusion about Milroe and that was they could only run a certain amount of plays with his limitations. There's no telling what was said in coaches' meetings when about Milroe when it was just the adults in the room...
Yeah, I'm thinking if we have BS this year we might not win it all but I bet we finish better than 9-4.
I really hope we find out the real story one day. There’s simply no reason Milroe ever should have been our starting QB. This will go down as one of the biggest enigmas in Bama football history.
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