Why have a playoff

ontopp

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Cause nobody believes in winning just whining,now I know why Coach don't care for reporters They don't deal in facts just hypothetical Ideas of their own. We have a hunger for everything but the truth Alabama beat Texas for the National Championship,maybe one day we can quit playing the game and debate it with sports writers,heck we all know they are smart enough to tell us who's the best!:rolleyes:
 

KrAzY3

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I'm pretty sure all the reputable individuals have crowned Alabama as champs. Alabama played the second hardest schedule (only Miss. State played a more difficult one... because they played Alabama), they beat the #1 and #2 team and they beat 4 teams that would have been in a 16 team playoff. They did everything anyone could expect of a champion and their season might be the best season any team has ever put together in history (they beat 9 bowl teams, won 14 games, beat the champions from the previous 4 years, etc...).

All a playoff does in this scenario is muddy the waters. Unfortunately it's not likely that Alabama with McElroy's broken ribs wins out in a playoff. Then you'd crown a one loss team (most likely, perhaps more) as champion. It wouldn't be likely to give us the best team as the BCS did this year, just the team the team that got good seeding, was healthy/well rested and so on.. I don't see how the winner of a playoff could possibly be a clearer champion than Alabama was this year. How can winning 4 in a row compare to 14?

People that are complaining about McCoy's injury (but not mentioning Bradford's) and Boise State (but not mentioning Florida) are just trying to stir the pot and have a agenda.
 

VolFan1

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I would love to see a playoff for the national championship.

Bama beat Texas on the field in the BCSNCG with the system in place to determine a champion. So, that makes Bama the national champion of the 2009 college football season. So, you guys did all you can do.

What I don't like about the current system is that you had 5 unbeatens going into bowl season. After the bowl games, we still have 2 undefeated teams. I would love nothing more than to see it played out in a playoff...granted, I believe Bama would beat Boise pretty handily.

I would be happy to see something as small as a 4 team playoff, that way you still need to try and win every regular season game in order to stay in the top 4 in rankings.

Just my $0.02 worth :)
 

Ole Man Dan

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There was a playoff this year.

We beat #1 in December. We beat #2 in January.
It may not happen that way again, but we beat the number one & number two teams this year.
BS don't figure in the equation because even on the final AP poll they were only
ranked #4. BS needs to work on strength of schedule...
 

rtjpearse12

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No playoff is needed. the best team is number one, and won the campionship. if boise st wants a shot, play a better schedule..i mean much better.
 

bryantdenny

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I am part of the minority that opposes a playoff for the following reasons:

(1) It diminishes the regular season. And they would likely keep expanding it to the point that the regular season is basically just an exhibition as almost any school with a winning record gets invited.
(2) It creates more problems as teams will complain about not being invited. As mentioned above, this will result in more and more teams being invited
(3) It goes against tradition
(4) I do not want college football to be more like the NFL. There is nothing wrong with doing things different that the NFL. For example, I wish we still allowed tie games. If two teams are equal at the end of 60 minutes, so be it. Overtime is stupid.
 
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h2o

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The National Champion should go to the best team in college football not to a team that is just undefeated. Just because Boise St. goes undefeated does not mean they are the best team in college football.
 

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I would love to see a playoff for the national championship.

Bama beat Texas on the field in the BCSNCG with the system in place to determine a champion. So, that makes Bama the national champion of the 2009 college football season. So, you guys did all you can do.

What I don't like about the current system is that you had 5 unbeatens going into bowl season. After the bowl games, we still have 2 undefeated teams. I would love nothing more than to see it played out in a playoff...granted, I believe Bama would beat Boise pretty handily.

I would be happy to see something as small as a 4 team playoff, that way you still need to try and win every regular season game in order to stay in the top 4 in rankings.

Just my $0.02 worth :)
I like the 4 team playoff idea....just not sure how it would fit into a 13 game schedule. I'm not sure how any playoff would fit into that schedule. You would think that players would need rest and depth charts for college are not even close to professionals in the NFL. Once you get to 3 and 4 spots they become kids that don't have much knowledge of the system or need more conditioning to help prevent injury. My advice is to just keep it like it is and maintain that the priority is education and not our entertainment.:BigA:
 

BamaFossil

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I am part of the minority that opposes a playoff ....
Sometimes the minority is right. Actually, I'm not convinced you're in the minority... especially for the universe of fans of "major" schools. A playoff is an incredibly bad idea for SEC, Big 12, and kindred teams.

IF a playoff were to be legislated into being, here are some things that would happen IMO...
- drop all conference championship games.
- teams pull their starters when they qualify for the playoff.
- teams like Bama and Florida should consider dropping out of the tough conferences. No benefit to playing a tough schedule. Pad the schedule with cupcakes; play the BSU card. Undefeated likely gets you into the playoff.
- the "whine meter" simply shifts to those teams on the cusp of being included in the playoffs but don't make it in.
- bowls other than those involved in the playoffs become even more meaningless.

Playoffs!! BAH!! :mad:
 

cuda.1973

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Cause nobody believes in winning just whining,now I know why Coach don't care for reporters They don't deal in facts just hypothetical Ideas of their own. We have a hunger for everything but the truth Alabama beat Texas for the National Championship,maybe one day we can quit playing the game and debate it with sports writers,heck we all know they are smart enough to tell us who's the best!:rolleyes:
Hey, works for the 'barn! They could have claimed 6 National Championships in a row.
 

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Because it would be a blast. Inter-conference matchups that actually mean something. Chances in first-round games for little MAC schools to knock off SEC or Big 12 powerhouses. Games that people actually would be excited to watch. Freedom from fat sportswriters electing champions. VICTORY ON THE FIELD.

Basically everything that makes the NCAA basketball tournament great.
 

jacketsntide

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A playoff is an incredibly bad idea for SEC, Big 12, and kindred teams.
Yea, this is the main impediment. The biggest conferences want to protect their own, because each knows that a team that goes undefeated or only loses one game an wins the conference has about a 90% chance of playing in the BCS championship in any given year. It's a valid argument in terms of the self-interest of conferences and their teams, but personally I don't think it's very American.
IF a playoff were to be legislated into being, here are some things that would happen IMO...
- drop all conference championship games.
Possibly, but I doubt it. What I wish would happen is a reduction of the "regular-season" schedule back to 10 or 11 games. The 12th game in particular is total worthless money-vacuuming crud.
- teams pull their starters when they qualify for the playoff.
I doubt it. If there are 8 or 16 teams and the tournament is seeded like in BB, it won't be worth risking a high seed by pulling starters. This doesn't happen in BB. Teams play their best players all throughout conference tournaments even when they're practically ensured a #1 seed. The difference between a #1 and a #4 seed could be a first-round MAC opponent instead of a first-round Big 10 opponent.
teams like Bama and Florida should consider dropping out of the tough conferences. No benefit to playing a tough schedule. Pad the schedule with cupcakes; play the BSU card. Undefeated likely gets you into the playoff.
It gets you in, but it doesn't get you a high seed. Just like in BB, being in a good conference means something and will guarantee easier early-round matchups.
the "whine meter" simply shifts to those teams on the cusp of being included in the playoffs but don't make it in.
People will always whine, but no one really cares about the team that missed out on the 16th seed. People most definitely care about undefeated teams that don't even get a shot at a championship. Can you remember the teams that just missed the NCAA BB tourney last year? I can't, but I could rattle off the many undefeated football teams in the last ten years who never got to play for anything.
bowls other than those involved in the playoffs become even more meaningless.
They're meaningless with or without playoffs. The Liberty bowl would be played for exactly what it is played for now - a Liberty Bowl trophy that almost no one cares about.
 

BamaFossil

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Injuries are less likely in BB so less inclination to pull starters.

Let's suppose Team A defeats 3 teams during the regular season that are included in a 16-team playoff. Team B goes the cupcake route and doesn't play any contending teams. But Team B is undefeated and so is included in the playoff picture. So now the playoff structure will likely mean Team A must defeat for the second time one or more teams it already defeated during the regular season. BAH.

Playoffs IMO will NOT give us a "better" national champion than the current system. Maybe a luckier one though.

BTW, does the scenario I described above look a bit familiar? VT... Florida... LSU... All would be in a 2009 16-team playoff structure. How many teams did... say... TCU play that would be in the 16-team scenario?

Playoffs = Bad idea. Hope the school ADs are savvy enough to avoid this turkey.
 

Tide1986

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Injuries are less likely in BB so less inclination to pull starters.

Let's suppose Team A defeats 3 teams during the regular season that are included in a 16-team playoff. Team B goes the cupcake route and doesn't play any contending teams. But Team B is undefeated and so is included in the playoff picture. So now the playoff structure will likely mean Team A must defeat for the second time one or more teams it already defeated during the regular season. BAH.

Playoffs IMO will NOT give us a "better" national champion than the current system. Maybe a luckier one though.

BTW, does the scenario I described above look a bit familiar? VT... Florida... LSU... All would be in a 2009 16-team playoff structure. How many teams did... say... TCU play that would be in the 16-team scenario?

Playoffs = Bad idea. Hope the school ADs are savvy enough to avoid this turkey.
Agreed...also, an earlier post in this thread suggested that the current system is not American inferring, I guess, that a playoff is American. Your example, however, points out the unamerican nature of a playoff in college football...Alabama works hard during the regular season, defeating several teams that would be in the playoff, while other teams get to use their "food stamps" to gain entry.
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