Why more young men in Germany are turning to the far right

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German election results are in.
CDU/CSU 28.5%
AfD 20.5%
SPD 16.4%
The Greens 12%
Die Linke 8.6%

Because Germany had Proportional Representation (PR), you must win at least 5% to get a seat in the Bundestag.
Going to be a weird coalition, especially if the CSU/CSU stick with their "no coalition wioth the AfD" pledge. That means the CDU/CSU must form a coalition with either the SPD or the Greens.
 
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Here is a video explaining the German election system
Like many things in Germany, it is over-engineered.
It is possible that your candidate in your particular district (kreis) could win the most votes, but still not get a seat in the legislature. Likewise, in you district, your guy could come in second or third, but does get a seat. This is a result of Proportional Representation.
 
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Here is a video explaining the German election system
Like many things in Germany, it is over-engineered.
It is possible that your candidate in your particular district (kreis) could win the most votes, but still not get a seat in the legislature. Likewise, in you district, your guy could come in second or third, but does get a seat. This is a result of Proportional Representation.
And this is the kind of crap the leftists have been trying to pull on us for quite a few years now. Telling us that every single job in the US should have demographic representation that EXACTLY matches the population. Any deviations from that must be due to racism or sexism or whatever ism that is currently in vogue. It sounds like Europe has gone all in on this too.
 
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And this is the kind of crap the leftists have been trying to pull on us for quite a few years now. Telling us that every single job in the US should have demographic representation that EXACTLY matches the population. Any deviations from that must be due to racism or sexism or whatever ism that is currently in vogue. It sounds like Europe has gone all in on this too.
The German system is interesting. You could vote for an SPD candidate in your local election but for the Greens nationwide. Something like that might be helpful for Democrats in Alabama or Republicans in California.

I think the Germans has a penchant for over-engineering, but this system seems to work for them so more power to them. I had never seen the system explained that clearly before.
 

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The German system is interesting. You could vote for an SPD candidate in your local election but for the Greens nationwide. Something like that might be helpful for Democrats in Alabama or Republicans in California.

I think the Germans has a penchant for over-engineering, but this system seems to work for them so more power to them. I had never seen the system explained that clearly before.
Maybe I do not understand but, you can already do that in this country as long as you stay away from straight party voting.
 

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Maybe I do not understand but, you can already do that in this country as long as you stay away from straight party voting.
Curious. Where and how does that work? Are you talking about ranked choice voting?

The video shows that German voters get two votes. One for the representative in the Bundestag from their local kreis. The other vote is for their national party preference.
If the number of representatives by party matches the national party preferences, then that is it. However, if the second vote differs from the local kreis winners (say, Greens win 10% of the national party preference vote but win no individual kreis vote), then the Greens must get ~10% of the seats in the Bundestag, so some local kreis winners are going to get bumped to make room for the Green candidate.
 

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Well, like I said, I don't understand. I haven't watched the video and was just replying to the specific part I highlighted that said you could vote for one party locally and another nationally. I do that all the time by voting for some republicans at our local level and voting for the other side at the national level.
 
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Well, like I said, I don't understand. I haven't watched the video and was just replying to the specific part I highlighted that said you could vote for one party locally and another nationally. I do that all the time by voting for some republicans at our local level and voting for the other side at the national level.
Okay, I see.
The difference is that in Germany you vote twice: once for a local candidate and the other vote for a party at the national level.

I was always curious how Germany applied the Proportional Representation system.
 

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