Did T-Town Menswear Cause an NCAA Violation For Alabama? (UA says no)

[RedStar]

Re: Clay Travis Says We Are In Potential Trouble

I don't understand these lines in the article:

Alabama listed Jones at 6'4" 220 pounds. That's a mountain of a man who would need a special work from a tailor to have suits fit perfectly.

and

Throw in the fact that Alabama listed Julio Jones at 6'4" 220 and we're not talking about a guy who can walk in and buy suits off the rack. All of these suits fit him well, which means he's been sized, measured, and fitted.

This insinuation gets lost among his more racial ones, but it shows just how many straws he's trying to grasp. I'm 6'3" 225 and I've never needed a tailor or "special work" to make my suits fit.

 

[AlexanderFan]

I love me some southwest conference football.

 

[Hamilton]

Re: Clay Travis Says We Are In Potential Trouble

I don't understand these lines in the article:

Alabama listed Jones at 6'4" 220 pounds. That's a mountain of a man who would need a special work from a tailor to have suits fit perfectly.

and

Throw in the fact that Alabama listed Julio Jones at 6'4" 220 and we're not talking about a guy who can walk in and buy suits off the rack. All of these suits fit him well, which means he's been sized, measured, and fitted.

This insinuation gets lost among his more racial ones, but it shows just how many straws he's trying to grasp. I'm 6'3" 225 and I've never needed a tailor or "special work" to make my suits fit.

Umm...has the dude ever purchased a suit at a menswear store? You go in, pick out the least ugly of the items, then they measure you and the suits themselves, mark them with chalk, and have them altered accordingly. If they don't have your size, they will measure you and order what is needed. Either way, you still get two or three crappy suits for relatively little money.

The implication that they took them or were given them for free because they couldn't afford them is asinine.

 

[WylieTexasTider]

Just read the columns on AL.COM written by Izzy & Scab. (Yes, about to go get the toxic slime washed off.) One thing that concerns me is they say UA did not report to SEC or NCAA. With all the scrutinty out there, why not tell the SEC/NCAA this is what we believe happened, we have sent the cease and desist letter, out players have been told to stay out of the store, we have investigated all current players and found no evidence of being paid for the autographs, the owner will not receive sideline passes anymore etc.?

All it takes is for the NCAA to think we are raising our nose at them and they find a player got a free alteration and from there they can assume and believe as they did in the Albert Means case. I agree this was started by AU/NTY to deflect from Cam but, we can not afford to give the NCAA reason to hang out in T-Town. The National media would love to see AU, UA, LSU and UF go down. Prove what the Big 12 and Big 10 blowhards have been saying, the SEC is dirty, blah, blah, blah....

 

[TideEngineer08]

Just read the columns on AL.COM written by Izzy & Scab. (Yes, about to go get the toxic slime washed off.) One thing that concerns me is they say UA did not report to SEC or NCAA. With all the scrutinty out there, why not tell the SEC/NCAA this is what we believe happened, we have sent the cease and desist letter, out players have been told to stay out of the store, we have investigated all current players and found no evidence of being paid for the autographs, the owner will not receive sideline passes anymore etc.?

All it takes is for the NCAA to think we are raising our nose at them and they find a player got a free alteration and from there they can assume and believe as they did in the Albert Means case. I agree this was started by AU/NTY to deflect from Cam but, we can not afford to give the NCAA reason to hang out in T-Town. The National media would love to see AU, UA, LSU and UF go down. Prove what the Big 12 and Big 10 blowhards have been saying, the SEC is dirty, blah, blah, blah....

Why should we have to? You report to the SEC and ncaa when you have committed a violation or you believe that you have. You report what happened, and what you have done to correct the issue. Alabama investigated, found no wrong doing, took measures to ensure that no violations would occur, and closed the book on it.

 

[CrimsonProf]

Just read the columns on AL.COM written by Izzy & Scab. (Yes, about to go get the toxic slime washed off.) One thing that concerns me is they say UA did not report to SEC or NCAA. With all the scrutinty out there, why not tell the SEC/NCAA this is what we believe happened, we have sent the cease and desist letter, out players have been told to stay out of the store, we have investigated all current players and found no evidence of being paid for the autographs, the owner will not receive sideline passes anymore etc.?

All it takes is for the NCAA to think we are raising our nose at them and they find a player got a free alteration and from there they can assume and believe as they did in the Albert Means case. I agree this was started by AU/NTY to deflect from Cam but, we can not afford to give the NCAA reason to hang out in T-Town. The National media would love to see AU, UA, LSU and UF go down. Prove what the Big 12 and Big 10 blowhards have been saying, the SEC is dirty, blah, blah, blah....

If compliance finds no wrongdoing, no need to report to NCAA or SEC. We're on probation, anyway, so of course they would report if a problem existed.

 

[SavannahDare]

Just read the columns on AL.COM written by Izzy & Scab. (Yes, about to go get the toxic slime washed off.) One thing that concerns me is they say UA did not report to SEC or NCAA. With all the scrutinty out there, why not tell the SEC/NCAA this is what we believe happened, we have sent the cease and desist letter, out players have been told to stay out of the store, we have investigated all current players and found no evidence of being paid for the autographs, the owner will not receive sideline passes anymore etc.?

Because the compliance office did their job, looked into the matter, and found that no violation had occurred. The NCAA and SEC offices don't want schools self-reporting non-violations. If every school had to report every thing that some rival school might try to twist and exaggerate, everyone would be buried under a pile of paperwork....for non-issues.

Look, I know a lot of people have their panties in a twist over this. Which is exactly what the barners want, of course. Bama fans who are becoming overly anxious are doing nothing but losing focus on what the real issues are, and those involve the FACT that Auburn is still under investigation on several issues. That is a fact. Keep your focus on that, not some smoke & mirrors deflection put forth by those crazy AU fans.

 

[TideFan in AU]

Just read the columns on AL.COM written by Izzy & Scab. (Yes, about to go get the toxic slime washed off.) One thing that concerns me is they say UA did not report to SEC or NCAA. With all the scrutinty out there, why not tell the SEC/NCAA this is what we believe happened, we have sent the cease and desist letter, out players have been told to stay out of the store, we have investigated all current players and found no evidence of being paid for the autographs, the owner will not receive sideline passes anymore etc.?

All it takes is for the NCAA to think we are raising our nose at them and they find a player got a free alteration and from there they can assume and believe as they did in the Albert Means case. I agree this was started by AU/NTY to deflect from Cam but, we can not afford to give the NCAA reason to hang out in T-Town. The National media would love to see AU, UA, LSU and UF go down. Prove what the Big 12 and Big 10 blowhards have been saying, the SEC is dirty, blah, blah, blah....

I wondered this too, but I assume some kind of protocol is in place that determines when and at what point an issue needs to be reported. Obviously, the compliance staff didn't feel it was big deal. In fact, this type of thing may be more common than we know. There's a LOT of people trying to make money off of college athletes, and hopefully this is how this is typically handled.

 

[GreatMarch]

Because the compliance office did their job, looked into the matter, and found that no violation had occurred. The NCAA and SEC offices don't want schools self-reporting non-violations. If every school had to report every thing that some rival school might try to twist and exaggerate, everyone would be buried under a pile of paperwork....for non-issues.

Look, I know a lot of people have their panties in a twist over this. Which is exactly what the barners want, of course. Bama fans who are becoming overly anxious are doing nothing but losing focus on what the real issues are, and those involve the FACT that Auburn is still under investigation on several issues. That is a fact. Keep your focus on that, not some smoke & mirrors deflection put forth by those crazy AU fans.

Right on target with that post and keep this little nugget in mind. UA has been asked to supply information concerning this situation by the likes of ESPN and we have complied by releasing the C&D letter to the store owner and info that the compliane dept researched in regards to the matter. Now, ask Pat Forde at ESPN about getting information from *U compliance dept. concerning several backgrounds of information. I am sure the powers that be at ESPN will tell you how uncooperative the Plainsmen have been.

 

[brutetough]

Just read the columns on AL.COM written by Izzy & Scab.

When I saw the title, I thought it must be Scab.. and surely it was. So, I skipped the content, and called it BS...

 

[WylieTexasTider]

Why should we have to? You report to the SEC and ncaa when you have committed a violation or you believe that you have. You report what happened, and what you have done to correct the issue. Alabama investigated, found no wrong doing, took measures to ensure that no violations would occur, and closed the book on it.

I guess I tend to sway to the side of caution. At a minimum, I would have reached out to the SEC/NCAA and asked for guidance. (For all I know we did....) With that said, I guess that is why the compliance staff gets paid the big bucks and I don't. They handled the Julio & Ingram fishing trip and Marcel South Beach party pretty darn well considering 2 of the 3 did not miss a game and Marcel missed a heck of a lot less than the Carolina gaggle.

 

[Skeeterpop]

This same thing happened last year at Michigan.. The sent letters also..

Athletic Dept. to apparel stores: T-shirts about Denard Robinson break NCAA rules | The Michigan Daily

 

[SavannahDare]

Another thing many people seem to not realize:

Do you not think, if someone like Julio started showing up to events dressed in "high end" suits, our compliance folks wouldn't be all over it? They know where our players get and afford their cars, apartments, etc. It is known that this particular store has an arrangement in place for gameday suits for the players. Our players aren't going to start showing up dressed like they're rolling in dough without our compliance office crawling all over it.

It amazes me that some of you forget these things.

 

[CrimsonCarl]

One thing that concerns me is they say UA did not report to SEC or NCAA.

This is the one thing that removes concern for me. I have faith that our compliance dept is on top of things, and if it was investigated and no violation was found, that's good enough. I think we've all seen that after the textbook stuff, fishing trip, Dareus, etc, Mal & CNS have put together a program that is very proactive and won't take chances.

 

[SavannahDare]

I guess I tend to sway to the side of caution. At a minimum, I would have reached out to the SEC/NCAA and asked for guidance. (For all I know we did....) With that said, I guess that is why the compliance staff gets paid the big bucks and I don't. They handled the Julio & Ingram fishing trip and Marcel South Beach party pretty darn well considering 2 of the 3 did not miss a game and Marcel missed a heck of a lot less than the Carolina gaggle.

That's because our compliance office is on top of things. Something might slip through the cracks on occasion, because we're talking about young people who make stupid decisions at times, but the moment it comes to light it's handled efficiently and according to the letter of the NCAA by-laws.

We're on probation and always in the NCAA crosshairs. Always. There is no lackadaisical attitude in our compliance department. That can't be said of a lot of other schools.

 

[CrimsonProf]

Another thing many people seem to not realize:

Do you not think, if someone like Julio started showing up to events dressed in "high end" suits, our compliance folks wouldn't be all over it? They know where our players get and afford their cars, apartments, etc. It is known that this particular store has an arrangement in place for gameday suits for the players. Our players aren't going to start showing up dressed like they're rolling in dough without our compliance office crawling all over it.

It amazes me that some of you forget these things.

Your point about "high end" suits is spot-on. As nice as most of our guys look, this isn't bespoke tailoring we're talking about.

 

[BoroBama]

Re: Clay Travis Says We Are In Potential Trouble

I don't understand these lines in the article:



and



This insinuation gets lost among his more racial ones, but it shows just how many straws he's trying to grasp. I'm 6'3" 225 and I've never needed a tailor or "special work" to make my suits fit.

Perfect fit?

 

[TideEngineer08]

Re: Clay Travis Says We Are In Potential Trouble

Perfect fit?

I don't think Julio wanted his picture taken here. I'm assuming the cameraperson did not survive?

 

[jwp3d]

What kind of arrangement does The University have with this store and how do we know this? Some teams show up at games in sweat suits supplied by the team's university so I guess that is what is going on with these suits. It has been claimed by a barn fan to me that the star players are the ones wearing the high end suits and not the regular players. Has anyone else looked at the walk of champion pictures to see if this is in fact the case?

 

[DiamondDust]

What kind of arrangement does The University have with this store and how do we know this? Some teams show up at games in sweat suits supplied by the team's university so I guess that is what is going on with these suits. It has been claimed by a barn fan to me that the star players are the ones wearing the high end suits and not the regular players. Has anyone else looked at the walk of champion pictures to see if this is in fact the case?

As multiple people have said, "high-end" is a bit of a stretch.