BCS Computer Rankings: It's LSU, Alabama for national title!!!

[PacadermaTideUs]

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What is the deal with Wolfe that keeps getting referenced?

Earlier this morning Andy Staples tweeted that he'd received an email indicating that the Peter Wolfe computer ranking had Bama 2, OSU 3. This is significant because the BCS formula drops the highest and lowest rankings from the 6 computer polls and averages the remaining 4 to calculate the computer component of the formula, and Sagarin is already confirmed to also have Bama 2, OSU 3. If the Staples tweet about Wolfe is accurate, the Sagarin ranking will count, and OSU has a much steeper hill to climb in toppling Bama from BCS #2. If the Wolfe info from Staples is not accurate and Bama can't get another #2 ranking from the remaining 4 computer polls, the #2 ranking from Sagarin will be discarded, and OSU has a much easier path to #2.

It's complicated, but that's the gist of it. Bottom line, no matter what happens in the computer rankings, if Bama wins Harris by at least 53 (which IMO is likely), we're in.

 

[BamaFlum]

So someone is questioning the validity of the tweet. Got it. If I had a guess, ESPN is sending out the seeds of doubt to get everyone to watch tonight...ratings, ratings, ratings.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

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The BCS needs to reevaluate any computer that ranks a 3 loss OU team in the top 10. That is a joke and how can you trust anything else that computer spits out after that.

 

[TideMom2Boys]

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The good (and sometimes bad) thing is, social media will probably have everything leaked before 5 hours from now. You know people can't keep their mouths shut.

 

[Alasippi]

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I don't understand why you would throw out the high and low computer rankings. Seems to me you should simply add them up and then find the average.

Why even have them if two are going to be thrown out?

 

[TheSabanator]

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I am hopeful of us getting in the BCSCG but some of these desperate posts are humorous.

 

[Just Win]

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The BCS needs to reevaluate any computer that ranks a 3 loss OU team in the top 10. That is a joke and how can you trust anything else that computer spits out after that.

agree 100%. ridiculous. especially an OU team that dangerously looked like they intentionally tanked a game last night to keep big money in the conference. Landry Jones looked like a middle school QB.

 

[hoopjsn]

I don't understand why you would throw out the high and low computer rankings. Seems to me you should simply add them up and then find the average.

Why even have them if two are going to be thrown out?

It's to remove the effect of outliers. Statistically it's an appropriate procedure.

 

[SimplyTide]

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I don't understand why you would throw out the high and low computer rankings. Seems to me you should simply add them up and then find the average.

Why even have them if two are going to be thrown out?

Some of the formulas produce wacky results. One poll might have a team #1, another #14, while the rest have that team around #3. The BCS considers it more "fair" to throw out the "outliers" - like they do in the Olympics.

 

[ccc2259]

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agree 100%. ridiculous. especially an OU team that dangerously looked like they intentionally tanked a game last night to keep big money in the conference. Landry Jones looked like a middle school QB.

Agree with you and RT1017....I'm only speculating, but since the computer polls aren't allowed to factor in how BAD somebody loses/wins, if there is a preseason bias toward the Big12 being stronger than it really is, it makes OU's losses look like "good" losses....I don't know....just trying to explain the unexplainable.

 

[PacadermaTideUs]

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So someone is questioning the validity of the tweet. Got it. If I had a guess, ESPN is sending out the seeds of doubt to get everyone to watch tonight...ratings, ratings, ratings.

Yeah, but it is a tweet from a single journo saying he got an email from somebody. That's not exactly well-sourced. May turn out to be true, but I don't think it quite warrants taking to the bank yet.

 

[JeffAtlanta]

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I don't understand why you would throw out the high and low computer rankings. Seems to me you should simply add them up and then find the average.

Why even have them if two are going to be thrown out?

HoopJsn is correct - it's to eliminate outliers. Olympic judging has always done this to try to eliminate a judge gaming the system.

I do agree that an algorithm that puts OU in the top 10 should be eliminated from the BCS in the future.

 

[TheSabanator]

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There is dedication and then there is lunacy.

Yes, I often laugh at dedicated Bama fans.

 

[JohnnyCache]

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Some of the formulas produce wacky results. One poll might have a team #1, another #14, while the rest have that team around #3. The BCS considers it more "fair" to throw out the "outliers" - like they do in the Olympics.

Good. I've had my eye on that Russian judge all season.

 

[JeffAtlanta]

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Agree with you and RT1017....I'm only speculating, but since the computer polls aren't allowed to factor in how BAD somebody loses/wins

Is that now the case? I thought that margin of victory was only capped but not eliminated.

 

[TexasBama]

Good. I've had my eye on that Russian judge all season.

I think Peter Wolfe was a character in Dr. Zhivago

 

[4Q Basket Case]

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Earlier this morning Andy Staples tweeted that he'd received an email indicating that the Peter Wolfe computer ranking had Bama 2, OSU 3. This is significant because the BCS formula drops the highest and lowest rankings from the 6 computer polls and averages the remaining 4 to calculate the computer component of the formula, and Sagarin is already confirmed to also have Bama 2, OSU 3. If the Staples tweet about Wolfe is accurate, the Sagarin ranking will count, and OSU has a much steeper hill to climb in toppling Bama from BCS #2. If the Wolfe info from Staples is not accurate and Bama can't get another #2 ranking from the remaining 4 computer polls, the #2 ranking from Sagarin will be discarded, and OSU has a much easier path to #2.

It's complicated, but that's the gist of it. Bottom line, no matter what happens in the computer rankings, if Bama wins Harris by at least 53 (which IMO is likely), we're in.

Hope your calculations are on target. Last week in Harris, we were #2 with a 342 point lead over #5 OSU. Stanford was #3, with a 98 point lead over OSU. So for OSU to close the gap sufficiently to get in New Orleans, they's have to jump one team that has the same record they do (not to mention a much higher quality loss), and make up 289 points on us, when we have the highest qualify loss of anybody.

All on the strength of blowing out a team that also lost to Texas Tech and Baylor.

Possible, but not likely, especially given the makeup of the Harris voting base.

 

[Craxycat]

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Under 2008 Slive/SEC plan it'd be: Stanford-LSU, OSU-Bama. B12, P10 said no. <--- Tweeted earlier by Wetzel. I didn't know a lot of the information in the article he posted, but it does show (along with the documentary "Play that Changed College Football") that the SEC has had to force the other conferences to move forward. Oh and add the Big/Pac 12 conference championships in there too. Either way this one goes folks it will help Bama, period.


Article: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_sec_reaps_reward_rejection_120311

 

[kyallie]

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Edwards projects Bama to be No. 2

Peter Wolfe cited

 

[4Q Basket Case]

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One thing to take some comfort in: As far as I know, no credible analyst has yet projected OSU in the BCS.