News Article: When will "pit bull denial" stop?

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Pits are not inherently aggressive towards humans they are aggressive towards other dogs. I have a pit and she loves people but I think if you, as a parent, are foolish enough to leave your pit (or any dog) with a baby then you probably deserve what you get.

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Pits are not inherently aggressive towards humans they are aggressive towards other dogs.
Of course, this explains the vastly higher death toll attributed to pits.

I have a pit and she loves people but I think if you, as a parent, are foolish enough to leave your pit (or any dog) with a baby then you probably deserve what you get.
Of course, they're all that way. I expect you'd actually be shocked if your pit killed someone, like every other pit owner.

Those of use who aren't emotionally attached look at the numbers and just shake our heads. The pattern is stunningly obvious.
 

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Deputies Searching For Pit Bulls That Killed 200 Goats

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/04/26/deputies-searching-for-pit-bulls-that-killed-200-goats/

Deputies say a pack of more than a half-dozen pit bulls may have killed about 200 goats near French Camp.Neighbors have been on high alert since the goats were killed. This morning, a neighbor called animal control once he discovered a pit bull attacked his chickens.

With guns drawn, San Joaquin County Sheriff’s deputies hunted for a pit bull that’s believed to be part of a dangerous pack.

Deputies killed one dog earlier this week, but there hadn’t been a sighting of any more until Friday morning when neighbors spotted the gray pit bull.
 

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Re: Deputies Searching For Pit Bulls That Killed 200 Goats

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/police-no-reports-of-problems-with-pit-bull-that-m/nXXgC/

Beau Rutledge was the second Georgia toddler this month killed by a pit bull breed. A little more than three weeks ago in tiny Ellabell, 30 miles west of Savannah, a 21-month old slipped through a dog door into the the backyard where she was mauled to death by the family’s seven dogs. A few months earlier, a 5-year-old Spalding County girl was critically injured when she was bitten in the face by a pet pit bull.


Haven't seen this posted yet. Just another example - when will these people learn? It's just sad.
 

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Generally speaking, my observation is people that have pit bulls are usually the type that want to portray some tough persona.
 

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I had a 70lb lab who I always claimed to be the wimpiest dog alive. One day I was watching a man walk his yorkie in front of my house and I was thinking to myself, that must be embarrassing for a man to have to walk such a little prissy dog. Well I opened the door up and Daisy Mae ran down to the yorkie as she was slowly creeping up behind the yorkie to get a sniff the yorlie turned and started barking at Daisy Mae. Daisy Mae turned and ran back up on my porch scared to death. I then wondered to myslf, what is more embarrassing, a man walking a yorkie or a man having a 70lb lab run from a yorkie?
 

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Vicious killing machine I tell you.
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Yep; pure psycho there.

In all honesty, pit bulls were built for tenacity and strength, but it doesn't mean that with a good owner, they're going to be aggressive or violent. Even chihuahuas with a bad owner bite ppl, but they're so small that the damage they do is minimal. Sadly, I think bad owners have given pit bulls a bad name; much like other breeds in the past. Having owned dogs and been around a lot of owners, the nature vs. nurture debate with dogs definitely lends to nurture. I've seen "good" breeds with a bad owner be worse dogs than "bad" breeds with a good owner.
 

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Yep; pure psycho there.

In all honesty, pit bulls were built for tenacity and strength, but it doesn't mean that with a good owner, they're going to be aggressive or violent. Even chihuahuas with a bad owner bite ppl, but they're so small that the damage they do is minimal. Sadly, I think bad owners have given pit bulls a bad name; much like other breeds in the past. Having owned dogs and been around a lot of owners, the nature vs. nurture debate with dogs definitely lends to nurture. I've seen "good" breeds with a bad owner be worse dogs than "bad" breeds with a good owner.
I do think this is true. In the almost 30 years I've been living next to and exercising in Monte Sano, I've had one serious dog attack and it was by two labs, one yellow and one black. Their owners were walking them off leash, illegally. The younger, black one kept coming back until I bashed it over the head with my hiking stick. I gave the owners an earful. It was one of two times over the years that I'd neglected to clip my pepper spray onto my belt...
 

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Yep; pure psycho there. In all honesty, pit bulls were built for tenacity and strength, but it doesn't mean that with a good owner, they're going to be aggressive or violent. Even chihuahuas with a bad owner bite ppl, but they're so small that the damage they do is minimal. Sadly, I think bad owners have given pit bulls a bad name; much like other breeds in the past. Having owned dogs and been around a lot of owners, the nature vs. nurture debate with dogs definitely lends to nurture. I've seen "good" breeds with a bad owner be worse dogs than "bad" breeds with a good owner.
Been volunteering in a vet clinic (pursuing vet med as a second career) and I can honestly say that I haven't yet seen a trend with regard to breed. I've seen some very sweet pits and some very vicious cockers and everything in between. That's not to say that there aren't trends that I just haven't identified yet. IMO, it mostly does come down to nurture, and how much damage a particular breed is physically capable of inflicting.
 

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Been volunteering in a vet clinic (pursuing vet med as a second career) and I can honestly say that I haven't yet seen a trend with regard to breed. I've seen some very sweet pits and some very vicious cockers and everything in between. That's not to say that there aren't trends that I just haven't identified yet. IMO, it mostly does come down to nurture, and how much damage a particular breed is physically capable of inflicting.
Um, cockers, especially solid colored ones, have had their own behavior problems, as a breed. At one point, most of the descendants of one particular black cocker in Britain had to be destroyed because the problem behaviors were genetically linked to his color. Now, with cockers, behavior problems seem to be more associated with the lighter solid coats.

Now, before the scoffing starts, Google "Russian silver fox experiment." To condense it, the scientist started breeding foxes for tameness. The problem was that they didn't remain silver foxes - they became multicolored. The tameness gene was "hooked" to the polymorphic gene. There are experiments being conducted now to ascertain if wolves, as they became domesticated, became polymorphic as they were unintentionally selected for tameness. All this is to say that it's foolishness to claim that behaviors aren't associated genetically with certain breeds. It's also foolishness to ask for papers to "prove" that a particular dog is "pure-bred," given that that concept really only matters in the show ring. We have a Maine Coon cat who adopted us after his owners' family dissolved with the man dying from an OD. He's a classic MC, weighing about 22 lb, your average weight for a bobcat. His parents were papered. He's not, but it's not important to us, since we have no interest in showing him anyway. (I'd have to have his tattered ears, left over from his interval as a feral, repaired anyway.)

All this is to make the point that certain inbred behaviors may be associated with certain physical characteristics, regardless of "breed." All that said, owners with a swagger are likely to have dogs with the same...
 

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Woman mauled by five pit bull dogs near Daytona Beach

http://tbo.com/news/florida/woman-mauled-by-five-dogs-near-daytona-beach-b82488155z1

DAYTONA BEACH - A woman is recovering in a Daytona Beach hospital after being mauled by a pack of dogs while walking with her daughter in western Flagler County.

Sheriff's deputies say 27-year-old Brandy Bookamer suffered “heavy wounds” by five dogs around 8 p.m. Sunday. She was airlifted to Halifax Health Medical Center in Daytona Beach for treatment. Her 6-year-old daughter was not injured.

The Daytona Beach News-Journal (http://bit.ly/127nW5o ) reports the woman suffered puncture wounds and scratches to her extremities and was “barely moving” when help arrived.

Flagler County Sheriff's Lt. Bob Weber says the dogs were pit bulls. Flagler County Animal Control took the dogs.

Bookamer's daughter was with her grandparents late Sunday.
Enough, yet?
 

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Pit bulls kill jogger – police

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201...ck:Network front - main trailblock:Position14

Woman, 63, was running in rural Los Angeles when dogs attacked and mauled her to death, witness and police say.

A pack of up to four pit bull terriers has been blamed for the death of a jogger in rural Los Angeles, with officials warning on Thursday that the dogs remained on the loose.

Sheriff's Lieutenant John Corina said a woman in a car saw the dogs attacking the female jogger, 63, on Thursday morning. The witness called police and blew her car horn to try to get the dogs to stop.


"When the first deputy on scene saw one dog still attacking the woman, he tried to chase the dog away," Corina said. "The dog ran off into the desert, then turned around and attacked the deputy, the deputy fired a round at the dog and tried to kill the dog, and the dog took off into the desert."


The woman died while she was in an ambulance on the way to a hospital, said Evelina Villa, county animal control spokeswoman.


The coroner's office was investigating to determine the cause of death.


Feral dogs, perhaps. But, still identified as pit bulls.
 

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I have a Boxer named "Annie"..She as gentle & as loving of a dog as I've ever seen..She's awesome..She makes a great companion..Especially when I don't feel well(which is a lot here lately)..She knows when I don't feel good & won't leave my side when she senses that..My life wouldn't feel right without her..
 

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