The Trayvon Martin Case

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Lot's of people get killed every year by guys with guns that I am going to go out on a limb and say don't have proper training. Unless they have target ranges in the Chicago hood...
I was not questioning your manhood, just commenting based on my experience. If you are serious about owning/using a gun for defense you should think about training.

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So what is the prosecution's theory of what happened? Amazingly, I still don't know. So TM confronts him... Then what? GZ pulls out his gun and shoots him? GZ throws him to the ground, jumps on top of him, and then shoots him? Those don't seem anywhere near plausible.
The prosecution is somewhat limited by lack of witnesses and death of TM. They had to base a lot on trying to tie in the yells for help, somewhat unsuccessfully, to TM, not GZ. The prosecution will have to wait for closing arguments now to put forth their view. I dont remember if they did this in opening statements.
 

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Apples and oranges...comparing a wanna-be presidential assassin to a home owner attempting to engage a target(s) in limited visibility is ludicrous.

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About as ludicrous as advocating a dramatic change in public policy based on the actions of one madman.
 

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The prosecution is somewhat limited by lack of witnesses and death of TM. They had to base a lot on trying to tie in the yells for help, somewhat unsuccessfully, to TM, not GZ. The prosecution will have to wait for closing arguments now to put forth their view. I dont remember if they did this in opening statements.
It's difficult for any rational person to conclude that, with GZ having injuries to the back of his head as well as his face, and TM's only injuries aside from the gunshot were on his knuckles, that TM was the one yelling for help. Those injuries suggest that GZ was on the ground, and TM was on top of him. Although theoretically it is possible for the aggressor to be the one on the ground, underneath the person they are attacking, it's not likely. And it's also not likely that an aggressor, on top of the person they are pummeling, would also be calling for help.

To me, the fact that TM's dad said it took him 20 times listening to the 911 call to finally conclude it was his son crying for help is pretty damning.
 

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The prosecution is somewhat limited by lack of witnesses and death of TM. They had to base a lot on trying to tie in the yells for help, somewhat unsuccessfully, to TM, not GZ. The prosecution will have to wait for closing arguments now to put forth their view. I dont remember if they did this in opening statements.
Lack of evidence for a charge tends to mean there's no charge. This case didn't work that way because of the media.
 

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Which is another reason this case should never have been brought. If the prosecution doesn't even have a viable theory of the case (and in murders, you never have the other guy's story), then it is almost professional misconduct to try this case.
This case is about race. Let's not kid ourselves. When GZ has to go on national tv and reiterate that he's HISPANIC and NOT white tells us a lot. The media wanted him to be white so bad they could taste the salt on the cracker. Going to lengths of creating a race called "White-Hispanic" is ridiculous. But that's what the media did. Jesse, Al and the other race roadies prematurely loaded up the Shakedown Van and hit the road. Only to find out the big Debbie Downer of GZ wasn't white after all. But Hispanic. OUCH!
 

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I want to see Zimmerman walk if for no other reason than to watch the meltdown on msnbc.
 

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Which is another reason this case should never have been brought. If the prosecution doesn't even have a viable theory of the case (and in murders, you never have the other guy's story), then it is almost professional misconduct to try this case.
Having an unarmed person, who was simply walking home from a convenience store, shot and killed probably justified a trial.
 

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Having an unarmed person, who was simply walking home from a convenience store, shot and killed under the assumption the person was doing no wrong and was shot for no reason probably justified a trial.
I inserted what you clearly left out.
 

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This prosecutor must be trying to build up career points, because badgering the witness really doesn't get you anywhere with the jury...
 
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