Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (will miss first half vs Rice)

[crimsonaudio]

Re: Manziel Expected "To be the starting quarterback against Rice"

Can you say Manziel Toyota...after he sues them?

Sues them for what?

 

[WylieTexasTider]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

@billyliucci

Still awaiting final resolution (confirmation from A&M or NCAA) but assuming suspension would involve secondary violation of by-law 12.5.2.2

Ruling would make it pretty convenient and clear-cut if any of other CFB stars with a lot of memorabilia out there are scrutinized

As most predicted, all indications are that Manziel was not found guilty of accepting payment for signature. Obviously a significant note

Friend in Houston called and advised per Houston media (TV&Radio) : JM was declared ineligible, applied for re-instatement and was re-instated with a 1/2 game suspension. NCAA has closed the investigation stating no money changed hands. Violation is secondary in nature. Key is supposedly NCAA has told aTm the investigation is over.

 

[RTR91]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

Friend in Houston called and advised per Houston media (TV&Radio) : JM was declared ineligible, applied for re-instatement and was re-instated with a 1/2 game suspension. NCAA has closed the investigation stating no money changed hands. Violation is secondary in nature. Key is supposedly NCAA has told aTm the investigation is over.

Yep. From Brett McMurphy of ESPN:

@McMurphyESPN

Manziel 1st half suspension "closes the book" on Manziel/autograph saga. NCAA acknowledges Manziel did not accept money, source said

 

[WylieTexasTider]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

If this is the case, JM should sue the heck out of ESPN for slander & libel. Also, confirms to lawyer up and the NCAA will cower....

 

[bamagradinATL]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

Wow!

$cam Newton Plan - 2
NCAA - 0

 

[AlexanderFan]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

Why doesn't the ncaa threaten to kick institutions out when they lawyer up? This whole deal is because they get lawyers who demand" proof" or they will sue. Couldn't the ncaa just counter with, " accept our terms or get out? "

Opinions, thoughts?

 

[RTR91]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

@slmandel

The bylaw cited by @billyliucci, 12.5.2.2, indicates he's being punished simply for permitting the use of his name for commercial purpose.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

Why doesn't the ncaa threaten to kick institutions out when they lawyer up? This whole deal is because they get lawyers who demand" proof" or they will sue. Couldn't the ncaa just counter with, " accept our terms or get out? "

Opinions, thoughts?

No; quite frankly, it is the other way around and that is why this technique has seemingly worked well. The ncaa is the universities... it exists at their behest. Not the other way around.

 

[rickvox79]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

Hahaha one half, what a joke! I mean if it was the whole game I wouldn't have given it much thought but one half makes both aTm and the NCAA look like fools. Somewhere Cam and Johnny are laughing it up.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

This is what I said in this thread last night - penalty was just 1/4 of what I figured it would be. I guess the NCAA figured he needed some game reps to make it a good game on 9/14...

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

Why doesn't the ncaa threaten to kick institutions out when they lawyer up? This whole deal is because they get lawyers who demand" proof" or they will sue. Couldn't the ncaa just counter with, " accept our terms or get out? "

Opinions, thoughts?

I think all the major football conferences should just say "Bye." to the NCAA.

 

[Rolltide_PA]

Manziel to miss 1H vs Rice

as per finebaum, espn, cbs, etc...

 

[Tider@GW_Law]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

What world does the NCAA live in where a person spends hours out of their busy schedule to sign hundreds of items, knowing the signature will significantly add to the value of these items destined for commercial sale, and does it all out of the kindness of his heart (or maybe because he likes the broker that he met just that much to do such a charitable act)?

I'm not sure what I'm missing as to why the NCAA can't look at these circumstances and begin from an assumption that a payment took place - in accordance with the normal order of things. I know it's not typically kosher to require someone to prove a negative, but here I think it's within their power to do and warranted, especially considering the NCAA's absence of subpoena power.

 

[Rolltide_PA]

Re: Manziel to miss 1H vs Rice

espn link
http://espn.go.com/college-football...es-suspended-1st-half-season-opener-rice-owls

 

[Special K]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

In other news, the Clarion Ledger reports Hugh Freeze was spotted mailing poster-sized thank you cards to addresses in College Station, TX and Newnan, GA.

 

[92tide]

Re: Manziel to miss 1H vs Rice

that'll teach him

 

[TideMom2Boys]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

I am sure Saban didn't blink an eye on this. So well played A&M,but Bama will still be prepared for him.

This will make our win against them worth even more. I didn't want another Arkansas game, where our dominance was overlooked.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Re: Manziel to miss 1H vs Rice

that'll teach him

Watch -- Rice will be leading 14 to 10 at the half -- and then Superman gets to come in and save the day

 

[Rolltide_PA]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

at least Manziel can hit the pregame frat parties for an extra hour and a half or so.

can't wait until 9/14!

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Re: Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (expected to start against Rice)

What world does the NCAA live in where a person spends hours out of their busy schedule to sign hundreds of items, knowing the signature will significantly add to the value of these items destined for commercial sale, and does it all out of the kindness of his heart (or maybe because he likes the broker that he met just that much to do such a charitable act)?

I'm not sure what I'm missing as to why the NCAA can't look at these circumstances and begin from an assumption that a payment took place - in accordance with the normal order of things. I know it's not typically kosher to require someone to prove a negative, but here I think it's within their power to do and warranted, especially considering the NCAA's absence of subpoena power.

I heard on ESPN Radio yesterday (Pat O'Brien show) that it has been common for players to sign for brokers but not collect the money until after they declare pro. Not sure how true this is but some dude on O'Briens show pointed this out.