Question: Do any of y'alls kids play organized soccer? Got a new experience this weekend.

My oldest played soccer for a year or so when he was 3-4 years old. There is no way that I would have stood for that. That is ridiculous, these aren't older kids. 5 years old is still considered to be "starting" out. Some kids don't even start soccer till 5/6 years old.


My youngest is starting soccer this spring. I would love to see them try to tell my husband that he couldn't tend our child... if he was hurt.
 
Not running onto the field in the first minute or two is as much a growth experience for the parent(s) as it is the child...even when the child is "just" 5 years old.
 
Both my girls have played and your ref needs a talking to. Now, the flip side to that is that parents need to learn to let the coaches and ref take the lead in tending to their kids. And coaches need to learn to get kids up and moving as soon as possible. Letting them lie around feeling sorry for themselves isn't accomplishing anything.

Sounds like mom should've stayed off the field and the ref should've just taken her aside and explained that next time she would risk ejection. Are you certain she didn't say something to get herself ejected?
 
Both my girls have played and your ref needs a talking to. Now, the flip side to that is that parents need to learn to let the coaches and ref take the lead in tending to their kids. And coaches need to learn to get kids up and moving as soon as possible. Letting them lie around feeling sorry for themselves isn't accomplishing anything.

Sounds like mom should've stayed off the field and the ref should've just taken her aside and explained that next time she would risk ejection. Are you certain she didn't say something to get herself ejected?

I was less than 50 yards from the situation. I saw the kid get run into, fall to the ground, the coaches went out there. The kid was on the ground for about a minute after the coaches got out there. His mom gets up from her lawn chair walk out there and it appeared as soon as the ref saw her he sent her packing. It didn't appear she said anything as she was walking up but I could be wrong.
 
The mom doesn't need to go running on the field as soon as it happens, but after a minute or so its fine at that age. My son said mom is never to go on the field if he is hurt unless he is dead. He said if he was seriously hurt then maybe I could go out there.

A few bumps and bruises that stopped play a couple times (he was a catcher for years) but never had to leave the game. Once the other pitcher got hit in the ankle with a line drive and the coach carried him off the field. My son turned around to me and said "Now, that is embarrassing".

I agree the coach should have had them get up (or at least sit up) right away. Ref should have just cautioned mom to stay off the field.
 
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It obviously had been practiced before because no one around us got upset with any "Oh my god I can't believe he's making her leave with her son out there hurt." No one got upset. I was floored. No way would I leave. They'd had to call the cops and even still I'm not going anywhere until I find out if my kid is okay or not. When it comes to my kids I'm not above being pepper sprayed and tased.

no one gets upset about anything except political correctness these days... but i digress.

the rule is probably in place bc they have had incidents of parents becoming violent with refs in the past. parents need to start getting jacked up when they throw tantrums in public.
 
The other odd thing was no one really said anything about it or got upset so I guess that is the norm. I was thinking "Ain't no way I'm getting thrown out of the complex or leaving the complex with my kid laying there on the ground." But she did. I wouldn't have. I foresee me kicked out of at least one or two games this season. LOL!

I'm with you 100% on this. Not a chance that I'm leaving the complex with my 5yo laying on the field. They can call security if they want or have me arrested. But I'm not leaving without knowing my son's OK. I wouldn't participate in a league that would act like that. I get it for non-injury-related incidents. But they need to make allowances in the case of an injury involving someone that young.
 
My 5 year old started playing soccer. His first game was this weekend but his little team had been practicing for weeks. Our game was Saturday and his team had to show up a half hour early. So as we waited for our game we watched the game before ours on the field we'd be playing on.

This kid gets run into pretty hard and falls to the ground. He's laying on his back and though it doesn't look like an emergency you could tell the kid was hurt. The coaches went over to him and after about a minute of him not getting up his mom goes out on the field to check on him. Keep in mind. These kids are 5-7 years old. Not teenagers. All of a sudden the referee throws her out of the complex. Told her and I can quote this one because we all heard it "WE WILL ABIDE BY THE RULES AND THE RULE IS NO PARENTS ON THE FIELD FOR ANY REASON! YOU MUST LEAVE THE COMPLEX NOW!". Now, keep in mind. I don't know anything about soccer. But is this normal? I would have at least thought he'd let her check on her son then usher her back to the sidelines. Nope, he ejected her immediately from the complex.

Did this end by one female throwing urine and one throwing a roast?

Seriously, I would have been ejected--but not for violating THAT rule. Ridiculous.
 
While this sounds like it was poorly handled, to look at it from the official's pov, it's chaos and very potentially dangerous to have anyone entering the field of play. There are way to many threats, etc. against officials as it is, and it could very well be that a parent got out of hand in the past and that led to emphasis on this rule. You're always vastly outnumbered, and there's way to much cultural slide toward blaming officials for everything. Even with an injury, there's just way too much potential for a parent's judgement to be clouded by the passion of the moment and poor choices to be made.

If I'm the ref, I probably take the coach aside and politely make it clear that if we can't keep the field clear, I'll have to abandon the match, as it is a safety issue.

Also, injuries are part of the game. If you're not ready to let go of your kid's hand, don't send them out on the field in the first place.

All that said, I'll bet the ref could have communicated all of this in a way that would have made the problem disappear without incident.
 
While this sounds like it was poorly handled, to look at it from the official's pov, it's chaos and very potentially dangerous to have anyone entering the field of play. There are way to many threats, etc. against officials as it is, and it could very well be that a parent got out of hand in the past and that led to emphasis on this rule. You're always vastly outnumbered, and there's way to much cultural slide toward blaming officials for everything. Even with an injury, there's just way too much potential for a parent's judgement to be clouded by the passion of the moment and poor choices to be made.

If I'm the ref, I probably take the coach aside and politely make it clear that if we can't keep the field clear, I'll have to abandon the match, as it is a safety issue.

Also, injuries are part of the game. If you're not ready to let go of your kid's hand, don't send them out on the field in the first place.

All that said, I'll bet the ref could have communicated all of this in a way that would have made the problem disappear without incident.

You read the part where this was 5 year olds, right? 1/3 of the team was probably either picking at worms in the dirt of telling their mommy that they had to go pee-pee.
 
I'm coaching my daughter's 4-5 team.

My kids aren't allowed to just lay there when they get hurt. If they're too hurt to get up, I drag them off the field and run in another minion.


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I'm coaching my daughter's 4-5 team.

My kids aren't allowed to just lay there when they get hurt. If they're too hurt to get up, I drag them off the field and run in another minion.


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Gotta teach'em that soccer "flop" _aj. :biggrin2:

 
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I get "no parents" if there is medical personnel. If a 5 year old kid is down for extended time, mom and dad are probably more valuable than little Eddie's dad who sells refrigerators and happens to be the coach.
My son is six and has played baseball and soccer and both leagues have essentially required parental help in such situations. As soon as there is a known nurse, doctor, PA, etc, then I get keeping mom and dad away. And if there is a violator, yes, expulsion seems crazy. Expel for cursing, threatening a coach or ref, etc. and for being defiant in some way.
 
You read the part where this was 5 year olds, right? 1/3 of the team was probably either picking at worms in the dirt of telling their mommy that they had to go pee-pee.

Yeah, I got that. I've coached and reffed those games. I've got daughters in those games. Developing and retaining quality referees is way too difficult, in no small part because parents are a problem.

You read the part where I said that the referee should have been able to communicate all of this in a way that made the problem disappear without incident, right? That doesn't mean making a show of booting the mom. It means that you quietly say something to the coach along the lines of "It is really important that we don't just have parents running out on the field. At best it delays the game, and at worst it could be a safety issue. I need your help making sure we can do this. Thanks."
 
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