Question: Why does awbarn think we don't have a chance?

B1GTide

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Totally agree with what you said. This is what people don't understand about Alabama, especially Auburn fans. Look at their last win in the series. It took a lot of things going wrong for us and also a lot of right things for them to win. Wash rinse and repeat for all teams (2) that has beaten Bama since.
Agreed, but if you are an Auburn fan you realize that it can happen because it has happened - for them, many, many times against SEC opponents. After the GA game, they see it as their destiny.
 

BamaMoon

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I have several *U fans as friends...most of them give their team a punchers chance... I think in all honesty they'd be happy with a competitive game...
I think you're right. After getting blown out for two years in a row they are wanting some revenge, but more than that they want some respect.

They are really in a win - win situation as long as we don't blow them out again. If they are fortunate to win or play us a close game they'll say it sets up Gus to beat us in years to come.

If we could manage to blow them out, they'll panic!
 
Agreed, but if you are an Auburn fan you realize that it can happen because it has happened - for them, many, many times against SEC opponents. After the GA game, they see it as their destiny.
Yeah! That's just the thing. They get those bounces when they are not suppose to. I just don't understand how incredibly lucky they are. Destiny is a chick that works at a strip club. That was just one game, but let them think what they want.


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SeattleBama

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Our fans need to accept that Auburn is in a rare win-win situation here.

If they beat us, they get to crow for years that they "ended" the dynasty. It will make their lifetimes far more than that long ago Cam Newton BCS title.

If they lose - well, they were supposed to so who cares?

I for one am glad that we are playing a 10-1 Auburn - no chance of a fluff up overlooking them for whoever the following week.

Want to know our record against teams coming into the game with ten wins (or more) under Saban since 2009?

6-1

The only loss? The 2010 Iron Bowl.

And most of those games have not even been close:
2009 Florida, Texas
2010 Auburn, Michigan State
2011 LSU
2012 Georgia, Notre Dame

Those six wins AVERAGE a 21.6 point victory for us. Only the UGA game was even close.

What about our record against teams that WOUND UP with 10 or more wins in a year since 2009?

10-4 (not including Ga Southern, who won 11 in 2011)

And two of those were to LSU.

Just some points.
Here's more...

Since 1950, Bama is 27-3 against the same opponent after shutting them out the year before by at least 30 points.
Bama has won every game since 1950 against an opponent the year folllowing a shutout of that same opponent of 41 points or more.

We know what the score was last year...49-0. I like Bama's chances to keep 63 years intact.
 

BigBama

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It has been interesting to see the two fan bases react after last weekend's games. Auburn fans feeling as if their team can not be stopped after their crazy win and Alabama fans wondering why they can't seem to be focused after an emotional win against LSU. Let me first state a few obvious things to get us back on the rails. This years Georgia team is not the same team that we faced in the SEC champ game. The defense is soft, many WR injuries, and Marshall is out for the season. Secondly, aren't we a little spoiled when we beat an SEC team on the road by 13 points and consider it a let down?

I think we are in good shape. We will hopefully get through the Chatt game without significant injury and we will be ready physically and mentally to go into Jordan-Hare. If our defense plays their assignments, we can slow this attack and keep them under 21. If our offense can't score more than 21 on their defense then we deserve to lose the game. I know that breakdown is too simplistic but that's the way I see it. We win a tough one....24-21.
 

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Well.. it would be GREAT to come out with the win, but let's just say that we don't match up well against you. Not that it is impossible to win, but improbable. Anyone thinking we can run through the tackles against your defense is smoking crack. Marshall will have to throw the ball with high accuracy for us to have a shot, in my opinion. Also, we will need some turnovers and some three and outs from you guys. If we play a great game and can pass -- and run to the edges.. and get some stops... and some turnovers... yeah -- we could do this. :)

the fact is that you guys are very, very good. We have over-achieved this year. Hopefully we can over-achieve again...
 

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Well.. it would be GREAT to come out with the win, but let's just say that we don't match up well against you. Not that it is impossible to win, but improbable. Anyone thinking we can run through the tackles against your defense is smoking crack. Marshall will have to throw the ball with high accuracy for us to have a shot, in my opinion. Also, we will need some turnovers and some three and outs from you guys. If we play a great game and can pass -- and run to the edges.. and get some stops... and some turnovers... yeah -- we could do this. :)

the fact is that you guys are very, very good. We have over-achieved this year. Hopefully we can over-achieve again...
Spot on.

Gary Danielson (of CBS) believes he has the three "keys" to beating Bama and all three have to be present.

1. Elite level quarterback play

2. You have to match up physically

3. And I forgot the third one. LOL! But I'm certain of the first two.

If you go back and watch our losses over the last five/six years a combination (especially #1) of these "keys" were present.
 
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Spot on.

Gary Danielson (of CBS) believes he has the three "keys" to beating Bama and all three have to be present.

1. Elite level quarterback play

2. Win the turnover battle

3. And I forgot the third one. LOL! But I'm certain of the first two.

If you go back and watch our losses over the last five/six years a combination (especially #1) of these "keys" were present.
3. Athletes on the wings.

They don't have two of the three already.


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tide96

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Because there is always "a chance". If we turn the ball over like we did last Saturday, we can lose. But that is about their only chance.
 

bamamc1

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boys and girls it's like this:
the barn can not stop our run game unless they overload the box,
when that happens, we throw on them at will.

We will kill them.
 

uaintn

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Yep, our strength on defense matches their strength on offense. That should be fun to watch, just as a general fan of the game. Their defense does not match up very well with our offense. So they need to do all they can to keep our offense on the sideline, but they are not really built to do that. Their pass rush is decent, but it has to be, because behind that things get ugly in a hurry. If we give AJ even an average amount of time (and we've been pretty good at that) and he has even an average AJ day....

They do a good job of holding down scoring in the red zone, so we need to be very sure to make every play inside the 20 count. TDs, not FGs, either. We are going to get yards on them, no doubt. The only question I have is if we can cash in. Partly, I hope we have some explosive play scores, so the redzone doesn't matter so much.

I think they are hoping for an up and down the field track meet sort of game where whomever has the ball last wins. The few I talk to think that because that worked for them with UGA, it'll work with us. Many of them believe that UGA's offense is better than ours and that their defense is better than Mississippi State (statistics not withstanding).
 

Jordan54

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My opinion going into this game with Auburn is that Alabama is far and away the most talented team in the SEC. This may be Saban's best team looking at every phase of the game. Our offense is led by a senior qb who may be considered the best we've had at that position, and the same can be said for Mosley who leads our defense. You win with great defense and we've got it. Along with that is a great offense that au's defense cannot match up with. Look for some big plays coming from Cooper and gang. It's never easy, except for last year, but Bama will win this game.
 

BamaJama17

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My opinion going into this game with Auburn is that Alabama is far and away the most talented team in the SEC. This may be Saban's best team looking at every phase of the game. Our offense is led by a senior qb who may be considered the best we've had at that position, and the same can be said for Mosley who leads our defense. You win with great defense and we've got it. Along with that is a great offense that au's defense cannot match up with. Look for some big plays coming from Cooper and gang. It's never easy, except for last year, but Bama will win this game.
Every year but 2009 was an easy win over the barn.


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Bruce014

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A lot of Auburn fans -- not all, but a lot -- act like their team and school are on a higher moral plane than everyone else. So when they have pure, unadulterated luck they automatically think it's destiny. Or worse than that, divine inspiration. They have a strange logic, Auburn fans. Everything they don't like is predicated on something unfair or unscrupulous, or a series of mind-numbing if-then statements. They won't credit us with the 2009 BCSNG since we knocked Colt out of the game. They don't think we deserved to be in the 2012 SECCG or BCSCG because they believe that aTm had an unfairly difficult season. And they positively have a meltdown over 2011.

And it's not just recent history, either. How many times have you heard them cite statistics starting in 1982? Why? For us it's a significant year but for them it's arbitrary, or at least should be. Or how many times have they complained about the number of conference games that were scheduled during the 70s? They will cite every statistic from the Bama-Southern Cal game of 1978 in an attempt to invalidate the 1978 AP national championship. They simply put their fingers in their ears and chant, "La la la," when you tell them that the UPI awarded its national championship before the bowl games in 1973.

Again, not all Auburn fans are like this, but enough are that it becomes easy and sometimes unavoidable to make sweeping generalizations, especially when every statement is predicated by "Yeah, but ..." and "If only..." and "You don't understand..."

Now, can they win this IB? Yes, technically. And technically Miss State could've beaten us last week.
Will they win this IB? No, I seriously doubt it because I think they are about on par with Miss State.
Their weapons are just different than State's, so it's not an apples-to-oranges comparison.
I think the better comparison is our common games against LSU.
Therefore:
Bama 35 Auburn 14
 

im4uainva

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A "Blue out"? A "Blue out"?

My take: Blue out=Blew out=Blown out=just...plain...blue.

I admire their attitude. But if Bama plays as Bama should play, I just cannot see them hanging with Bama for four quarters. Bama has way too many thoroughbreds in the stables to be upended by a one-dimensional team that is especially one-demiensional in the very activity that Bama is best at stopping. Anthing can happen, but wow!
First things first...UTC...Roll Tide, Roll...A'ight!
 

cindym

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It has been interesting to see the two fan bases react after last weekend's games. Auburn fans feeling as if their team can not be stopped after their crazy win and Alabama fans wondering why they can't seem to be focused after an emotional win against LSU. Let me first state a few obvious things to get us back on the rails. This years Georgia team is not the same team that we faced in the SEC champ game. The defense is soft, many WR injuries, and Marshall is out for the season. Secondly, aren't we a little spoiled when we beat an SEC team on the road by 13 points and consider it a let down?

I think we are in good shape. We will hopefully get through the Chatt game without significant injury and we will be ready physically and mentally to go into Jordan-Hare. If our defense plays their assignments, we can slow this attack and keep them under 21. If our offense can't score more than 21 on their defense then we deserve to lose the game. I know that breakdown is too simplistic but that's the way I see it. We win a tough one....24-21.
This !!!!!! Key word no injuries!!!!!! But I hope we score a few more on em more like 34 to 10
 

sanjosecrimson

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Plenty of a Auburn fans think Bama has a chance. Blanket statements like the thread title look ignorant.

JHS will be as jacked as ever. Biggest IB in a generation. It will NOT be easy.
College Station this year and Baton Rouge last year wasn't crazy ENOUGH ?? AJ has never loss on the road as a starter.
 
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