Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - and...no charges to be filed...

[JIB]

I guess the idea that the DA liked to go after FSU players didn't pan out here.

 

[B1GTide]

I guess the idea that the DA liked to go after FSU players didn't pan out here.

Let's check his retirement funds for recent transactions.

 

[KrAzY3]

As far as having bruising, not that I am proud of some of the things in the past but I will say that there are some women that are freaks out there. Again, not saying this woman was but we don't know.

But, this is the job of a jury, and I think you see how convoluted the defense of Winston has become.

Was his DNA present? Yes. Did she show signs of violence? Yes. Did she say he raped her? Yes. Did she take a rape kit? Yes.

Did he rape her? No, she was just a freak in bed and then decided to accuse him of rape. May be something would have come out in trail, and why would anyone want a rape to have actually occurred? None of us want that, but for my part, as a football fan, I feel ashamed that college football might be the reason a rapist goes free, and that if anything this sort of thing seems to be condoned.

I was more upset by what went on at Penn St. but it all sickens me...

 

[MOAN]

The thing that sticks out to me in the whole sordid affair is what would the young lady expect to gain from such an accusation if it were a total fabrication? I saw nothing in the press conference that explained that, just that they didn't feel they could win the case if brought to jury.

The states attorney said that she did not know Winston. The rape accusation happened nearly a year ago before he ever became a Suppah Stah. It only came to light again because someone in the press got wind of it and looked into it but she did not change her stance about being raped even given all this time and probably figuring it was dead on the vine and after his new found fame. Seems to me she would just as soon it did not come out but when it did she told the truth so where is the malice by her?

Add all the pieces together and it looks to be a cover up but since it is not going to a jury all we have left is our conjecture and imaginations. What would Winston have to fear by going to court to clear his name before his peers if he is innocent? I know if I was accused of something this bad i would want my day in court to prove my innocence.

Again as many have said if this accusation were against anyone else with different circumstances things would be totally different. Did he rape the girl or not? Will we ever know? A trial would have given us a lot better idea as to the truth and to bad we are left with what looks to be a cover up for FSU's national championship and Winston's Heisman stakes. To me and to many of us he will always been seen as a rapist rightly or wrongly!

 

[Mamacalled]

Krazy, I agree that this was mishandled and wished it would have gone to trial. I am not saying that she was a freak, just stating a possibility. I don't know what happened. I am not going to cross the line of calling her a liar not will I call him a rapist without know for certain.

 

[OreBama]

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I hate Auburn as much as any Bama fan but, taking money is nowhere near as bad as rape IMO.

Absolutely. However, the "integrity" part of the Heisman was gone for me after that day. Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread.

 

[1Dawn]

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Absolutely. However, the "integrity" part of the Heisman was gone for me after that day. Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread.

If integrity is no longer factored into the vote by many, then maybe they should just remove the statement. From the Heisman website: The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.
Integrity - the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.

If you have any doubt that Winston could possibly be guilty, how can you vote for him for the Heisman award? What little time I listened to Finebaum today, he stated over and over that Winston will win the Heisman and that he will vote for him. I just turned the radio station to another one. Where are we going in college sports that integrity is no longer relevant and is completely overlooked by some programs and voters?

 

[capnfrog]

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I have served on grand- grand jurys and our job was not to decide if someone was guilty but to say yes or no as to if there is enough evidence to bring the person to trial. Clearly there is enough evidence to bring Mr Winston to trial and let his guilt or innocence be decided by a jury.

 

[Ldlane]

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There is a saying about Karma that I'm not allow to say! :wink:

I believe it!

 

[twofbyc]

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I have served on grand- grand jurys and our job was not to decide if someone was guilty but to say yes or no as to if there is enough evidence to bring the person to trial. Clearly there is enough evidence to bring Mr Winston to trial and let his guilt or innocence be decided by a jury.

That's why it didn't go to a grand jury.......

 

[B1GTide]

Krazy, I agree that this was mishandled and wished it would have gone to trial. I am not saying that she was a freak, just stating a possibility. I don't know what happened. I am not going to cross the line of calling her a liar not will I call him a rapist without know for certain.

Straight question - If you reviewed the evidence shared by the SA, would you not agree that this belonged in front of a jury instead of being tossed because it might fail to bring a conviction?

I understand that you support your friend, and am not asking you to say whether or not you believe he is guilty. I am asking if you think that there is a chance that he is guilty.

 

[Mamacalled]

BIG tide,
I have already stated that I would have preferred it going to a jury. I am not friends with him. I have met him and his family but I am not friends with him.
All that I have attempted to say is that none of us know what happened. To make a conclusion either way would be wrong.

 

[TrampLineman]

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There is a saying about Karma that I'm not allow to say! :wink:

I believe it!

Correct! He might can get around the law now but the Good Lord knows all!

 

[Snuffy Smith]

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Correct! He might can get around the law now but the Good Lord knows all!

If this is indeed a pattern as some have indicated it will not stop and eventually will catch up to him - we will see.

 

[BamaFanInTally]

Here's my take on it - from someone who lives here and has to listen to it.

It's a sad situation for the girl, if indeed he did rape her. Universally, hardly anyone here believes he was ever guilty, and it's a good thing the girl doesn't live in the area, because the verbal abuse would be unbearable for her.

If he's innocent, then justice was served. But it was done differently than it would be for the average person. With the evidence they had, any of us here would have had to prove our innocence in court.

With his other documented run-ins (the defacement of property with a BB gun "war" with his friends, stealing soda, etc.), then this issue - at a minimum he has some serious issues with his judgment. In fact, it demonstrates a self-absorbed, high-profile athlete who believes he is above the law. Along with his documented recruitment where he was downright disrespectful and flippant to many coaches who came in his home, this is one that I can honestly say I am glad that got away from us.

 

[CoastGhost]

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If she is still ready to pursue and her lawyers are on the ball, I would expect the civil action to be filed when they turn the lights on in the morning at the court house, early enough to make the news cycle for the weekend

 

[DzynKingRTR]

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If he did indeed rape this girl, he will do it again.

 

[B1GTide]

BIG tide,
I have already stated that I would have preferred it going to a jury. I am not friends with him. I have met him and his family but I am not friends with him.
All that I have attempted to say is that none of us know what happened. To make a conclusion either way would be wrong.

Sorry - I missed that. I appreciate your view point. As for not drawing a conclusion - I think that you are incorrect. It is wrong to sit on the sidelines. Someone was wronged here.

If I am not going to get a trial, I have to draw my own conclusions. The SA left me with no other option. I am the only judge and jury available, thanks to Meggs.

Given the evidence, I judge him guilty. It really is that simple for me.

 

[Bamaro]

I thought he should have been charged but I know way to little about the facts to say guilty

 

[B1GTide]

I thought he should have been charged but I know way to little about the facts to say guilty

Exactly why we developed a judicial system - so the populace isn't forced to make these decisions for themselves and take the law into their own hands. By acting as he did, Meggs told us that we are not going to be afforded that legal process and forced us to decide to either forget this and pretend that it never happened, or judge for ourselves. He is hoping that we will forget it, and most will, but some will not - like the victim.