News Article: Blake Barnett quit the team

[Sabanizer]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I think I see where he's going. Hurts is the starter, but God forbid anything happen to him, maybe we're better off with Bateman over Barnett.

I'm not 100% sure I agree with that, but Bateman and Cornwell were also highly regarded quarterbacks. I fully expected them to transfer and look for playing time, but they're still with us. There may be a talent drop off between Barnett and Bateman/Cornwell, but at least those two didn't quit in the middle of the season. That makes me think they don't quit in the middle of a game if they fall behind. It also makes me appreciate Cooper Bateman and David Cornwall a lot more.

It is a reality that Barnett is a notch above the Nuss recruits. Half of them are long gone. The Kiffin recruits, a TF and red-shirt Frosh separated themselves from players 2 and 3 years more in the program. Hence why we recruited Coker. With a jalen and Barnett on the team, no need for that. Its a loss. You can say he sucks because he quit, but we would have taken him two years ago under the same circumstances from another team and loved him with open arms if we thought he could help us win.

 

[BamaInBham]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I didn't think so until this season, and I believe he's only making this mistake with the qbs. I was driving all day Saturday and didn't get to see the game but I've watched every play of the other three, and hurts doesn't have the timing down on his deep throws. His intermediate game isn't great either. We have highly sought after running backs and the best receiving class in the history of UA, perhaps, and you play the guy with the lesser arm? Now maybe it's because he's a great runner, but Barnett was a dual threat qb at one time too, if I'm not mistaken. It just doesn't add up to me, but even if he genuinely beat Barnett out, that doesn't mean Barnett doesn't hear the same things I do and believe he was given the job simply because the team responds better to hurts.

I certainly can't say why the coaches made their decision, and I agree that to my untrained eye, Barnett looks like the more polished and talented pocket passer - at least at the moment. But pocket passing is only one factor of many in a QB. IMO, scoring is the most important stat, not QBR. Hurts has led the team to a score (TD or FGA) on 22 of 35, or 63% of his possessions, Barnett on 4 of 11, or 36% of his. The sample size is not big enough to be definitive, but IMO, that shows the wisdom of the coaches, if not the reason they have gone with him. Of course his poise and maturity is to his great advantage, his effect on the run game, etc. things that are not quantifiable. He also appears to be very much a team player as evidenced by his highly enthusiastic support of Blake when Blake was leading the team to those scores late in the USC game. Not even a hint of jealousy but full support. That means a lot to everyone: teammates, coaches and fans.

 

[BamaSC]

Blake Barnett Transferring

It is a reality that Barnett is a notch above the Nuss recruits. Half of them are long gone. The Kiffin recruits, a TF and red-shirt Frosh separated themselves from players 2 and 3 years more in the program. Hence why we recruited Coker. With a jalen and Barnett on the team, no need for that. Its a loss. You can say he sucks because he quit, but we would have taken him two years ago under the same circumstances from another team and loved him with open arms if we thought he could help us win.

I would not want someone playing for Alabama that quit on his previous team regardless of his talent or ability to win games.

And transferring after a season doesn't constitute quitting.

 

[Alasippi]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I don't think there's anyone posting in this thread which disagrees with that at all. The disagreement is over timing. It's probably not a good time for him and it's possibly disastrous for the team, with an injury to Hurts, for example. Also, as I indicated above, I'd feel better about it if I felt 100% certain that it were Blake's - and only Blake's - decision. I don't feel that way, based on what I know...

I'd agree.

 

[BamaInBham]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

nx4bama let it go you can't have a different view on here sometimes.

I agree with you about this and so does a lot of other people. (outside of here)

Players should play hard no matter who is in the game.

I have coached baseball for about 15 years and have seen this a few times over the years. I always go with the best guy and not who wins the team. If some don't like it they can either sit or get over it. Playing harder for one player over another to me shows you care nothing about the team.

Who said the players were playing harder for one QB over another ?

My guess is that the following stat has more to do with it: with Hurts the team scored (TD or FGA) on 22 of 35 possessions or 63% vs Barnett 4 of 11 or 36%. There are many more factors related to QBing than pocket passing, which IMO, is the only advantage BB had over JH. And that may not continue. IMO, JH had every other quality on his side, though the sample size is not sufficient.

 

[BAMAVILLE]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I don't think there's anyone posting in this thread which disagrees with that at all. The disagreement is over timing. It's probably not a good time for him and it's possibly disastrous for the team, with an injury to Hurts, for example. Also, as I indicated above, I'd feel better about it if I felt 100% certain that it were Blake's - and only Blake's - decision. I don't feel that way, based on what I know...

Are you alluding to it parental or family influence on this one?

 

[Matt0424]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

One thing that those vehemently defending BB keep talking about is how great he is.

I was pulling for him to win the competition this year, even over Hurts. The problem is in everything I watched (2 A-Days, Practices, and game time) he never looked the part. He's always seemed in over his head, and not the best decision maker.

As a matter of fact, he was given every opportunity to be "the guy" during fall camp. His starting against USC, and there are a few others that may be able to corroborate this, was honestly a move to see if the switch flipped under the lights. It didn't. Hurts was better in practice, and in games, and the team/coaches/people who watched practice saw.

Even after Hurts proved himself, the staff STILL gave BB chance after chance. He never could find any sort consistency in practice or games. That was obvious last Saturday when he came in with the 1's and just couldn't find much success.

So to say the only reason people are upset is due to his talent is ludicrous. He's yet to show much of anything to be upset about leaving. People are upset, as I and others have said, that he quit on his teammates. He left 84 (plus walkons) guys high and dry, in a bind if we have injuries, and to pick up his slack because he lacks the chest to stick it out until December.

Sounds a lot like Gunner Kiel...

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[CrimsonPride]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

When I read about him getting engaged this summer, I got a feeling that if he didn't win the starting job, he would transfer at the end of the year for sure.

Like most everyone else, transferring isn't the issue. It's transferring now that is a problem. I can't understand how some can't see the difference.

I had similar concerns too. I wondered if he would be able to handle the pressure of being the starting QB, a student, and engaged to a fiancé that lives across the country. Either one of those alone takes total commitment and laser-like focus. To do all three well is virtually impossible. From what I have seen, the QB part seems to have been the casualty.

I didn't have a dog in the fight as to who won the position. I just wanted what was best for the team. I honestly expected Blake to win the job based on the fact that he had a year in the system and should have been more comfortable and poised running the offense but that did not happen.

For the person that hinted that Blake knows that he outperformed Hurts, when and where did this occur? It has not happened in any games that I have seen and that includes A-Day. I don't get to see practices but no one who does has said that he was the better QB. That fact that they were even was telling.

He does throw a beautiful ball but the position requires more than that such as decision making and leadership. It's hard to lead others when you look shell-shocked and totally overwhelmed even when the outcome of the game pretty much decided. The fact that he would quit on the team during the middle of the season because he didn't get his way doesn't demonstrate the characteristics of a leader.

Blake has been given every opportunity to become the starter over the last two years. Unfortunately, the competition outperformed him when it really counted.

I wish him the best but this is not a good look.




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[dirtroadlizard]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

At least we won't have to watch him moping on the sidelines any longer!

 

[TitleWave]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Barnett's bailing at this stage of the season is such an impetuous move that you almost wonder if he had lost the backup job to Bateman.

But let me give an example of how, even with these kids' sense of entitlement and easily bruised egos, how it could have been handled with a measure of mutual respect. To wit, the then-13-year-old who committed to Kiffin and USC to play QB but eventually ended up at West Virginia. Where he was the nominal No. 2 as a true freshman though intended for a redshirt. Until about this far into last season when he was asked by the head coach Holgerson to burn his redshirt - as a wide receiver. Became essentially a starting WR and even caught the winning TD in WVU's bowl game. Not long afterward, told the coach that he still wanted to play QB - remember, had been recruited at that position since he was 13 years old - and that having assessed the situation where he was then enrolled, WVU, he had decided (or maybe had it "familially" decided for him) that he would be transferring to a junior college for a season at improving his game, then get back to an FBS program as a QB. No fit of pique, no rash exit, no leaving his previous team in the lurch.

And Mack, a correction: Flacco transferred to an FCS school, Delaware (which had a history of winning at that level with D1 exiles) from Pitt, where he had hard pine to ride for three or four years, not Penn State. Which back then near the end for Paterno was managing to win what B1G games they won with...game managers.

 

[DollarTaker]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I haven't read every single post in the thread & apologize if this has been talked about..I just watched The Zone with Mike Raita, Kevin Scarbinsky & Doug Segrest were saying Blake may transfer to a JUCO football team & then transfer to a D-1 school next season..I don't know how that would work..Just relaying what they were talking about..

BB probably has until mid Oct. to transfer to most Juco's for the shortened 2nd term. Most Juco's have a regular term, short first term and a short second term. The short classes are twice as long in duration, but you get the same credit as regular term classes, so he can get his 12 hours in and transfer to a D1 in the spring. I would think he dropped all his current classes before the academic deadline for it to count against him.

 

[B1GTide]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Congratulations to Cooper Bateman! A young man with the patience, commitment and perseverance required at this level of sport. You are, once again, the #2 QB for the University of Alabama. If/when you get your chance to help this team, be prepared. You are one play away from an opportunity to prove your greatness.

Roll Tide!

 

[Bad Pony]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

If he hadn't looked like a deer in the headlights in the USC game and he was still the starter, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Selfish move and pretty much personifies the "everyone gets a trophy" generation.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Outside of Knight at A&M and Coker...where else has this whole transfer thing because you weren't good enough to start.... Worked out?

 

[Bad Pony]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I'm not going through all 27 pages and someone hopefully hasn't posted this snippet from Cecil Hurt's article yesterday, if they have, I apologize...but as always, Cecil hits the nail on the head.

"If Barnett does leave immediately, as all reports suggest, the shock isn't in the decision to transfer, only in the timing. By leaving four games into the season, he isn't positioning himself well for next year. He isn't a graduate, so any transfer to an NCAA school would require that he sit out the 2017 season. Even if he managed to immediately get into (and graduate from) a junior college, NCAA rules mandate that he sit out for a full calendar year from his release date at Alabama. That means he wouldn't be eligible to October 1, and what program is going to start one quarterback for the first four weeks while planning to turn the reins over to a transfer in Week Five?"

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/...lake-barnetts-decision-not-shocking-timing-is

 

[81usaf92]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I think I see where he's going. Hurts is the starter, but God forbid anything happen to him, maybe we're better off with Bateman over Barnett.

I'm not 100% sure I agree with that, but Bateman and Cornwell were also highly regarded quarterbacks. I fully expected them to transfer and look for playing time, but they're still with us. There may be a talent drop off between Barnett and Bateman/Cornwell, but at least those two didn't quit in the middle of the season. That makes me think they don't quit in the middle of a game if they fall behind. It also makes me appreciate Cooper Bateman and David Cornwell a lot more.

I got what he was saying, but how he worded almost seemed... Eh

 

[Snuffy Smith]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

BB probably has until mid Oct. to transfer to most Juco's for the shortened 2nd term. Most Juco's have a regular term, short first term and a short second term. The short classes are twice as long in duration, but you get the same credit as regular term classes, so he can get his 12 hours in and transfer to a D1 in the spring. I would think he dropped all his current classes before the academic deadline for it to count against him.

August 24 was the last day to drop without a W. not sure how the W counts but he would have already had midterms locked in by now. Seems unlikely to me that he would be able to fulfill the requirements to graduate from a JUCO by December ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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[capnfrog]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

At least we won't have to watch him moping on the sidelines any longer!

You must have been watching a different game than I was. I failed to see "moping on the side lines" and "deer in the headlights stare".

 

[tidefanbeezer]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I've never been suspended from this site, and if it happens now, it's worth it to say this--this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on the Internet.

For this, I give you the full Banjeaux.

 

[DollarTaker]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

August 24 was the last day to drop without a W. not sure how the W counts but he would have already had midterms locked in by now. Seems unlikely to me that he would be able to fulfill the requirements to graduate from a JUCO by December ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Unless something has changed in the last 20 years, the next drop date is WP or WF. W and WP are OK.