News Article: Blake Barnett quit the team

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My son had a breakdown and got homesick as a freshman at UA (200 MILES), cost me over $8,000 down the tube. He had anxieties. I was ....ed, but I let him enroll at UA (Huntsville), the next semester and he will graduate this semester as an electrical engineer and already has a job with lockeed Martin.

Each kid is different. I understood B1G's point and agree to an extent with his POV because quitting is a crippling trait to have, but you've proved that a caring and attentive father who knows their kid and knows their character can gauge when they are truly in need of change. Not saying what applies to Blake - and I agree that it is bad form to leave mid-season, I just get an icky feeling slamming him with so few contextual facts known. I'll say it looks bad and I hate this transfer stuff, especially after all his tweets about being afraid to compete and whatnot. I dunno.
 
Blake Barnett Transferring

The alumni and fans feel very differently about the University (for the most part) than the players and coaches. For the majority of them it is a job or a stepping stone to the NFL. We are the ones suspending our disbelief. That's the trade off with recruiting 5* players, many of whom are not from here. Essentially, they have their own agenda. I'm sure BB will go on to do just what he hopes to do........but walking out in the middle of the season is a whole 'nuther thang. While I understand there may be issues unknown to the general public, it certainly creates the impression of a disregard of the University, the teaching of our coaches and his teammates. The times, they are a' hanging........Coach Saban understands all of these dynamics and I'll leave it to him!

Don't tell that to Mark Ingram. My cousin, who's like my brother, had his first baby boy at the exact time as Mark. They sat and talked for 2 hours waiting on their wives. He said he was all about Bama. Couldn't praise it enough and said it was now what he considers "Home". While some may see it that way I know it means a GREAT deal to majority of them.


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You must have been watching a different game than I was. I failed to see "moping on the side lines" and "deer in the headlights stare".

I don't agree with the "moping on the sidelines" comment. But, the deer in the headlights stare is pretty obvious if you watch the first few series of the USC game. He looked in-over-his-head, tbh.
 
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The one thing I don't buy are some of the posts saying "I always had a bad feeling about him" or "He never sat right with me". Bologna. Sounds like a chain-smoking grandparent after their granddaughter gets dumped by her high-school boyfriend.
 
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Different situation. Wilson was the starter at NC State. Left because O'Brein wouldn't let him play baseball, not because he couldn't start.

The problem is that Coker and Knight were different from each other as well. Point is you can list probably every transfer like Del Rio, Tricket, Ely, and Wilson as well.
 
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He's a freshman, playing behind a true freshman...did you really expect this guy to stay around 3-4 years...If Hurts was a Junior, Barnett might have stayed.
 
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The one thing I don't buy are some of the posts saying "I always had a bad feeling about him" or "He never sat right with me". Bologna. Sounds like a chain-smoking grandparent after their granddaughter gets dumped by her high-school boyfriend.

Yep. Seems like a lot of hindsight experts.
 
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If this is how he feels then he does need to go. Ask the Aggies and Coach Sumlin how letting your decision to be dictated by a disgruntled and entitled teenager. Coach Saban is spot on his remarks and his handling of the situation.


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I didn't think so until this season, and I believe he's only making this mistake with the qbs. I was driving all day Saturday and didn't get to see the game but I've watched every play of the other three, and hurts doesn't have the timing down on his deep throws. His intermediate game isn't great either. We have highly sought after running backs and the best receiving class in the history of UA, perhaps, and you play the guy with the lesser arm? Now maybe it's because he's a great runner, but Barnett was a dual threat qb at one time too, if I'm not mistaken. It just doesn't add up to me, but even if he genuinely beat Barnett out, that doesn't mean Barnett doesn't hear the same things I do and believe he was given the job simply because the team responds better to hurts.

IF he genuinely beat Barnett out? :rolleyes: Given the job simply because the team responds better to Hurts? You say you've watched every play of the first three games. Despite evidence to the contrary, I'll just have to take your word for that, I guess.
 
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Different situation. Wilson was the starter at NC State. Left because O'Brein wouldn't let him play baseball, not because he couldn't start.

Not quite. O'Brien was new and installing his own system. Wilson was a three-year starter and also had been playing minor league professional baseball during those years. Essentially, Obie told him to take his talents elsewhere and from the start went with Mike Glennon as NCSt's QB. Some here also may recall Wilson for his senior year was down to Bucky and Cow Pattie Country (succeeding sCam) before choosing the former.
 
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I'm not going through all 27 pages and someone hopefully hasn't posted this snippet from Cecil Hurt's article yesterday, if they have, I apologize...but as always, Cecil hits the nail on the head.

"If Barnett does leave immediately, as all reports suggest, the shock isn't in the decision to transfer, only in the timing. By leaving four games into the season, he isn't positioning himself well for next year. He isn't a graduate, so any transfer to an NCAA school would require that he sit out the 2017 season. Even if he managed to immediately get into (and graduate from) a junior college, NCAA rules mandate that he sit out for a full calendar year from his release date at Alabama. That means he wouldn't be eligible to October 1, and what program is going to start one quarterback for the first four weeks while planning to turn the reins over to a transfer in Week Five?"

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/...lake-barnetts-decision-not-shocking-timing-is

Answer to the last question is a program that has a first year HC by the name of Lane Kiffin.
 
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The problem is that Coker and Knight were different from each other as well. Point is you can list probably every transfer like Del Rio, Tricket, Ely, and Wilson as well.

I meant different in the sense that Cajun's post was about guys who weren't the starter (or good enough to start). Wilson was the starter and transferred due to O'Brein releasing him because baseball interfered with football.

I know that every transfer situation is different. I was just reacting to the "not good enough to start piece". The other guys you mention weren't starters and were pretty successful. Wilson was already a starter.
 
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August 24 was the last day to drop without a W. not sure how the W counts but he would have already had midterms locked in by now. Seems unlikely to me that he would be able to fulfill the requirements to graduate from a JUCO by December ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
With a short second term @ a JUCO, he can graduate in December. You have to remember that he already he could potentially have almost two years of credit right now, as a redshirt freshman.
 
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Not quite. O'Brien was new and installing his own system. Wilson was a three-year starter and also had been playing minor league professional baseball during those years. Essentially, Obie told him to take his talents elsewhere and from the start went with Mike Glennon as NCSt's QB. Some here also may recall Wilson for his senior year was down to Bucky and Cow Pattie Country (succeeding sCam) before choosing the former.

Still doesn't change the fact that Wilson was successful prior to transferring, which was the original point.
 
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I think you may as well give it up. Too many people see "win the team" as some sort of popularity vote, explicit or implicit. Generally speaking, the team, as a unit, is interested in the man under center being the guy who sees the open receiver, the guy who delivers the ball on time, gets the team out of a bad play, the guy who doesn't panic under pressure. These and a hundred other things are what "winning the team" means. It means the guy for whom the team functions better as a whole. It's not the common assumption around here that they're playing harder for one guy than another. Many times, the reverse is true. It's an intangible and it oftentimes doesn't even show in practice or in the first couple of games. The team's "vote" is in how they play - not how they feel personally about a particular quarterback...

You had to be playing close attention, but Saban has given a little peek into what he means when he says "win the team".

"You want to see guys show command in terms of their ability to manage the game," Saban said. "They (have to have) control of the huddle and other people relative to their confidence in terms of what they're doing and how the other people around them sort of believe in that position on our team.

"I think that is critical. It's kind of a part of leadership. It's also part of being able to execute, being knowledgeable in terms of what the expectation is of doing your job to the standard that you can do it to. I think that develops confidence in the people around you."

You had to pay REAL close attention, because that quote is from 2011, when McCarron and Sims were battling for the starting spot. LINKAGE

And well, we all saw what happen when Saban picked the guy who won the team that year...
 
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Not quite. O'Brien was new and installing his own system. Wilson was a three-year starter and also had been playing minor league professional baseball during those years. Essentially, Obie told him to take his talents elsewhere and from the start went with Mike Glennon as NCSt's QB. Some here also may recall Wilson for his senior year was down to Bucky and Cow Pattie Country (succeeding sCam) before choosing the former.

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Wilson's desire to play both sports ultimately led to his early departure from NC State. Coach Tom O'Brien released the all-Atlantic Coast Conference quarterback two months ago largely because his baseball commitments kept him from taking part in offseason workouts.

Wilson wanted to play baseball; O'Brien didn't like that it interfered with football.
 
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