Bama Game Thread: Official Post Game Thread Bama v. Michigan...

[B1GTide]

We may’ve actually handcuffed our OL a bit this year by running RPO so heavily. They guys can push folks around when you let em.

Amen

 

[rgw]

Absolutely no doubt that Jeudy and Najee made some $$$ by playing in this game.

IMO, Saban let Najee score that TD to help him. Saban does not run up the score. That was about helping Najee.

I agree. This was a feature game for those two. The entire gameplan was sorta predicated around getting them opportunities to show out. Najee is probably a top 40 pick after that showing...similar kinda spot as Henry.

 

[rgw]

The Forristall TD was actually a setup to let Harris demonstrate his ability to catch with another wheel route but Michigan clearly had their players ready for that one so three different defenders went with Najee.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Would not be surprised if the AP and the committee unrank Michigan after this so they can say we did not beat a ranked team all year.

 

[B1GTide]

Michigan fans are always noisy...

Like that yapping little mutt that just won't shut up.

 

[MOAN]

Michigan was a lot better than Aubarn. Why does Bama lose to those clowns?

Bama's two losses this season to LSU and the barn were direct results of Bama miscues, turnovers, more so than those teams being better than Bama. The margin of error for this years team was probably the slimmest it has been in years especially with all the injuries and young players forced into action. I am not sure this years team could have beaten Clemson or OSU and for that matter LSU the way they are playing now but there is no doubt in my mind that Bama is a top 4 team!

 

[uafan4life]

Like that yapping little mutt that just won't shut up.

Don't say that about Hairbaugh; it's an insult to mutts everywhere...

 

[B1GTide]

Bama's two losses this season to LSU and the barn were direct results of Bama miscues, turnovers, more so than those teams being better than Bama. The margin of error for this years team was probably the slimmest it has been in years especially with all the injuries and young players forced into action. I am not sure this years team could have beaten Clemson or OSU and for that matter LSU the way they are playing now but there is no doubt in my mind that Bama is a top 4 team!

With Tua - the best team in America. If Mac had started from game one, probably still the best team in America. Sad that it didn't work out that way.

 

[crimsonaudio]

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Would not be surprised if the AP and the committee unrank Michigan after this so they can say we did not beat a ranked team all year.

I do think there needs to be a general consensus. Do you base strength of schedue on:

1. Rankings of the opposing teams when the game took place, or
2. Rankings of the opposing teams at the end of the season.

There are strengths and weaknesses to either argument. But we need to decide.

In keeping with my pet peeve of throwing rocks at the current situation without offering a solution, if I were made benevolent dictator of college football:

1. There are no rankings for the first 8 weeks of the season.
2. Strength of schedule throughout the year is determined by that first ranking — as in, after the 8th week of the season.
3. Yes, I know that ignores injuries after the 8th week. And it ignores drastic deterioration or improvement after the 8th week (unusual, in my experience, absent key injuries).
4. But it eliminates teams like Georgia jacking up the SOS with a Notre Dame team that turned out not to be so good, or a team using UTw’s high preseason ranking to bolster a SOS, never mind that UTw went 8-5 In the regular season in a weak B12 Conference.
5. For reasons outlined in #4, I’m willing to make the sacrifices acknowledged in #3..

Ideally, SOS would be determined after the season is over. But that by definition precludes its use during the season, I.e., for post-season purposes.

So imperfect thought it may be, so sez me.

If you think differently, I’d love to hear a better alternative....just offer one. I get enough rock-throwing without better solutions at home.

 

[Padreruf]

I do think there needs to be a general consensus. Do you base strength of schedue on:

1. Rankings of the opposing teams when the game took place, or
2. Rankings of the opposing teams at the end of the season.

There are strengths and weaknesses to either argument. But we need to decide.

In keeping with my pet peeve of throwing rocks at the current situation without offering a solution, if I were made benevolent dictator of college football:

1. There are no rankings for the first 8 weeks of the season.
2. Strength of schedule throughout the year is determined by that first ranking — as in, after the 8th week of the season.
3. Yes, I know that ignores injuries after the 8th week. And it ignores drastic deterioration or improvement after the 8th week (unusual, in my experience, absent key injuries).
4. But it eliminates teams like Georgia jacking up the SOS with a Notre Dame team that turned out not to be so good, or a team using UTw’s high preseason ranking to bolster a SOS, never mind that UTw went 8-5 In the regular season in a weak B12 Conference.
5. For reasons outlined in #4, I’m willing to make the sacrifices acknowledged in #3..

Ideally, SOS would be determined after the season is over. But that by definition precludes its use during the season, I.e., for post-season purposes.

So imperfect thought it may be, so sez me.

If you think differently, I’d love to hear a better alternative....just offer one. I get enough rock-throwing without better solutions at home.

I think you're on the right track...not sure how that would work out but it's worth a try. SOS does not take into account that for the historically top teams every time they take the field they usually get the best effort from their opponents. The OM who plays us usually never shows up again...

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I do think there needs to be a general consensus. Do you base strength of schedue on:

1. Rankings of the opposing teams when the game took place, or
2. Rankings of the opposing teams at the end of the season.

There are strengths and weaknesses to either argument. But we need to decide.

In keeping with my pet peeve of throwing rocks at the current situation without offering a solution, if I were made benevolent dictator of college football:

1. There are no rankings for the first 8 weeks of the season.
2. Strength of schedule throughout the year is determined by that first ranking — as in, after the 8th week of the season.
3. Yes, I know that ignores injuries after the 8th week. And it ignores drastic deterioration or improvement after the 8th week (unusual, in my experience, absent key injuries).
4. But it eliminates teams like Georgia jacking up the SOS with a Notre Dame team that turned out not to be so good, or a team using UTw’s high preseason ranking to bolster a SOS, never mind that UTw went 8-5 In the regular season in a weak B12 Conference.
5. For reasons outlined in #4, I’m willing to make the sacrifices acknowledged in #3..

Ideally, SOS would be determined after the season is over. But that by definition precludes its use during the season, I.e., for post-season purposes.

So imperfect thought it may be, so sez me.

If you think differently, I’d love to hear a better alternative....just offer one. I get enough rock-throwing without better solutions at home.

Week 8 is a bit much. Week 4 or 5 should give people an idea where most teams are at.

 

[rgw]

I think Alabama would beat a few teams above them in the CFP rankings but it is hard for me to say that this was actually one of the four best teams. Oklahoma was more around the 9th ranked team in my opinion. There were a handful of teams outside the bracket who would’ve fared better v. LSU than Oklahoma. Mac has been great but I think Tua’s mastery of the QB position is what Alabama would need to have a puncher’s chance given the defense being so porous. Alabama is definitely a top 10 team though. The 13th ranking was insulting and more about keeping Alabama out of the NY6.

My hunch was that Oregon was probably actually the 4th best team but they screwed themselves with a long-travel night game where they seemed lethargic v. Arizona State. The logistical nightmare of the Pac-12 has screwed their quality teams quite a bit in the BCS and CFP era.

 

[MOAN]

I got a feeling Jerry Jeudy earned him a seven figure bonus for playing in the bowl today!!

I think Alabama would beat a few teams above them in the CFP rankings but it is hard for me to say that this was actually one of the four best teams. Oklahoma was more around the 9th ranked team in my opinion. There were a handful of teams outside the bracket who would’ve fared better v. LSU than Oklahoma. Mac has been great but I think Tua’s mastery of the QB position is what Alabama would need to have a puncher’s chance given the defense being so porous. Alabama is definitely a top 10 team though. The 13th ranking was insulting and more about keeping Alabama out of the NY6.

My hunch was that Oregon was probably actually the 4th best team but they screwed themselves with a long-travel night game where they seemed lethargic v. Arizona State. The logistical nightmare of the Pac-12 has screwed their quality teams quite a bit in the BCS and CFP era.

Bama doesn't lose to unranked teams period. I just can't see a team losing to Arizona State and South Carolina not mattering regardless who they beat. Just my opinion of course.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

And the media are already speculating about that last TD

Running up the score?

 

[BAMAVILLE]

Would not be surprised if the AP and the committee unrank Michigan after this so they can say we did not beat a ranked team all year.

Ha ... the question will be if they will be ranked higher than the Barn?

 

[JustNeedMe81]

Nothing to say over here, but I wanted to know who made adjustments in 2nd half? Saban? Golding? Kelly? The coaching was different in second half and I've been trying to figure out what happened.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Nothing to say over here, but I wanted to know who made adjustments in 2nd half? Saban? Golding? Kelly? The coaching was different in second half and I've been trying to figure out what happened.

No clue, but I suspect Saban lit a fire under everyone during halftime...

 

[rgw]

Bama doesn't lose to unranked teams period. I just can't see a team losing to Arizona State and South Carolina not mattering regardless who they beat. Just my opinion of course.

You’re not wrong but I think the SEC - even with the additions since 1992 - has a much more compact, convenient footprint for travel. I definitely think that has something to do with these inexplicable losses by Pac-12 teams over the years. Thursday/Friday night conference games. Situations where teams have to travel twice in a row from the Pacific Northwest to Southwest. Their geography just sucks.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Michigan ran 80 plays to Alabama's 55 plays. They had the ball for 34:47. They significantly outplayed Alabama on 3rd down conversions, offensively and defensively.

You still beat them by 3 TDs.

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