The Titan submersible imploded, killing all 5 on board, the US Coast Guard says
The U.S. Coast Guard says a missing submersible imploded near the wreckage of the Titanic, killing all five people on board.
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MEDIA AVAILABILITY: Coast Guard to hold press briefing to discuss ROV findingsDebris field discovered....
Titanic Five died instantly when craft had 'catastrophic implosion'
The search for the Titan, a 21ft submersible operated by OceanGate Expeditions, drew to a close when a remote sub found debris on the ocean floor.www.dailymail.co.uk
WHO: Rear Adm. John Mauger, the First Coast Guard District commander, Capt. Jamie Frederick, the First Coast Guard District response coordinator
WHAT: The Coast Guard is scheduled to hold a press briefing to discuss findings from the Horizon Arctic’s remotely operated vehicle near the Titanic
WHEN: Thursday at 3:00 p.m.
WHERE: Coast Guard Base Boston at 427 Commercial St., Boston, MA 02109
Goodness...
"Lochridge’s concerns primarily focused on the company’s decision to rely on sensitive acoustic monitoring — cracking or popping sounds made by the hull under pressure — to detect flaws, rather than a scan of the hull. Lochridge said the company told him no equipment existed that could perform such a test on the 5-inch-thick (12.7-centimeter-thick) carbon-fiber hull.
“This was problematic because this type of acoustic analysis would only show when a component is about to fail — often milliseconds before an implosion — and would not detect any existing flaws prior to putting pressure onto the hull,” Lochridge’s counterclaim said.
Further, the craft was designed to reach depths of 4,000 meters (13,123 feet), where the Titanic rested. But, according to Lochridge, the passenger viewport was only certified for depths of up to 1,300 meters (4,265 feet), and OceanGate would not pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport certified for 4,000 meters."
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"Lochridge’s concerns primarily focused on the company’s decision to rely on sensitive acoustic monitoring — cracking or popping sounds made by the hull under pressure — to detect flaws, rather than a scan of the hull. Lochridge said the company told him no equipment existed that could perform such a test on the 5-inch-thick (12.7-centimeter-thick) carbon-fiber hull.
“This was problematic because this type of acoustic analysis would only show when a component is about to fail — often milliseconds before an implosion — and would not detect any existing flaws prior to putting pressure onto the hull,” Lochridge’s counterclaim said.
Further, the craft was designed to reach depths of 4,000 meters (13,123 feet), where the Titanic rested. But, according to Lochridge, the passenger viewport was only certified for depths of up to 1,300 meters (4,265 feet), and OceanGate would not pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport certified for 4,000 meters."
Insufficient prototype testing could put Titanic sub passengers in extreme danger, a lawsuit says
Documents show the company whose submersible vanished in the North Atlantic on a tourist dive to the wreck of the Titanic was repeatedly warned that there might be catastrophic safety problems posed by the way the vessel was developed.
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There they go again — pointy-headed regulators and unimaginative 50-year-old white guys ruining a visionary’s fun.Goodness...
"Lochridge’s concerns primarily focused on the company’s decision to rely on sensitive acoustic monitoring — cracking or popping sounds made by the hull under pressure — to detect flaws, rather than a scan of the hull. Lochridge said the company told him no equipment existed that could perform such a test on the 5-inch-thick (12.7-centimeter-thick) carbon-fiber hull.
“This was problematic because this type of acoustic analysis would only show when a component is about to fail — often milliseconds before an implosion — and would not detect any existing flaws prior to putting pressure onto the hull,” Lochridge’s counterclaim said.
Further, the craft was designed to reach depths of 4,000 meters (13,123 feet), where the Titanic rested. But, according to Lochridge, the passenger viewport was only certified for depths of up to 1,300 meters (4,265 feet), and OceanGate would not pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport certified for 4,000 meters."
Insufficient prototype testing could put Titanic sub passengers in extreme danger, a lawsuit says
Documents show the company whose submersible vanished in the North Atlantic on a tourist dive to the wreck of the Titanic was repeatedly warned that there might be catastrophic safety problems posed by the way the vessel was developed.
Same hubristic mindset that got Elizabeth Holmes and Sunny Balwani. Difference is that Theranos didn’t actually kill anybody.
I've been telling my wife since Sunday night, when the news broke, that they were dead. My first thought was a crack and implosion.
The Titan submersible imploded, killing all 5 on board, the US Coast Guard says
The U.S. Coast Guard says a missing submersible imploded near the wreckage of the Titanic, killing all five people on board.
There was an interview Monday night with a guy who had been in this sub last summer. He said it has 7 different emergency system to float the thing to the surface and a number of them work even if all power was lost. He said that the fact is hasn't returned to the surface could be a bad sign, that maybe it was caught in a fishing net or imploded.
Then this article on Tuesday: A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired. | TechCrunch The viewport was only certified for 1300 meters; the Titanic is at 3800 meters.
The people who have previously gone on successful voyages to the Titanic in this thing should feel extremely lucky. This was going to happen to this poorly designed craft eventually, it was only a matter of time. I hope OceanGate is sued out of existence for their negligence.
Based on what we know now - that's is my speculative guess, as well. Probably went quite quickly.
Quickly is an understatement if it imploded. Based on an internet rabbit hole I went down, apparently at that depth it happens in under 0.1 seconds which is faster than the human brain can register. In the end, that sounds way better than being stuck at the bottom of the ocean and dying from lack of O2.
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The debris discovered within the search area of the missing Titanic submersible has been assessed to be from the external body of the sub, according to a memo reviewed by CNN. The search for the crew capsule of the Titan vessel continues, the memo says.
The debris was located on the ocean floor, roughly 500 meters off of the bow of the Titanic, and it was located around 8:55 a.m. ET.
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The debris was located on the ocean floor, roughly 500 meters off of the bow of the Titanic, and it was located around 8:55 a.m. ET.
Debris found on ocean floor has been assessed to be from the external body of the Titan sub
The Titanic-bound submersible that went missing on Sunday with five people on board suffered a "catastrophic implosion," killing everyone on board, officials said Thursday.
From press briefing
Tail of sub was found.
Other pieces were then found.
Review by experts is that a catastrophic hull loss occurred.
3000 psi plus traveling at the speed of sound. They literally never knew what hit them.
Tail of sub was found.
Other pieces were then found.
Review by experts is that a catastrophic hull loss occurred.
3000 psi plus traveling at the speed of sound. They literally never knew what hit them.
Reported both end bells of pressure hull were found. So what they were told would happen with their carbon fiber with titanium end bell design did in fact happen.
The bold is new to me - I've trouble understanding how they could be moving that fast in such dense water - can you share a link?
The implosion happens at the speed of sound. The sub wasn't moving that fast.
We will never know if their in-house developed acoustic monitoring system warned them seconds before catastrophe. I don't mean to make light, or maybe I do, but I don't have much sympathy for wealthy people doing stupid things with their money.
I hope OceanGate is sent the bill for this 4 day search but I'm pretty sure we taxpayers will cover it. Just like we always do when the rich get in trouble, the rest of us have bail them out.
The water coming into the vessel would be traveling at the speed of sound. More precisely, it would be traveling at a velocity up to the speed of sound.
Yeah saw a reporter ask about recovery of bodies. I don't think it computed that there are no bodies.
The speed of sound in air or the speed of sound in water?
Not that it would make any difference in the end; just curious.
I think there are safe ways to do this (there is a track record of other DSV's doing so.) I feel like the passengers are victims of negligence here. I'm not sure the true level of negligence and shortcuts by OceanGate would have been apparent to them.
air, as the water displaces (or compresses) the air in the vessel. I don't think it would be a uniform implosion.
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