LGBTQ Issues: Will We Choose Love and Acceptance or Hate and Oppression? (Part 2)

[Huckleberry]

I don’t see how it’s that complicated. If you monetize your “creative expression “ and function as a business, you should follow all laws against discrimination that businesses follow. Free speech is irrelevant.
Example: you come into my business and exercise your right to free speech and I find it disruptive to business, you’ll be escorted out by the cops or me at gunpoint, even though, on a street corner, you can shout those profanities till your hearts content (unless the cops determine you’re a public nuisance). You can’t do it in my store.
Principal is the same: free speech has, by necessity, limitations when it comes to business. That these jackasses ignore that is a mockery of the whole judicial system.

The free speech issue is secondary to these judges and those who agree with their decision. This is about legitimizing bigotry, intolerance, and hatred in the name of religious freedom.

 

[NationalTitles18]

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1675308985963126784

MAGA morons and their hypocrisy on display

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1675484471355752448

Being gay is not a sin.
Neither is being lesbian, bisexual, or transgender.
The Bible never claims that it is.
It really doesn't.
Christians should stop saying it because it's reckless and irresponsible—and it's killing people.


Link to column

 

[AWRTR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1675484471355752448

Being gay is not a sin.
Neither is being lesbian, bisexual, or transgender.
The Bible never claims that it is.
It really doesn't.
Christians should stop saying it because it's reckless and irresponsible—and it's killing people.


Link to column

As someone that has studied both Greek and Hebrew on a masters degree level that was one of the worst written pieces on what the Bible says I have ever read. The exegesis in that article wouldn’t get a passing grade in a kindergarten Sunday school class. I wonder if the original copy was written in crayon?

 

[92tide]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1675484471355752448

Being gay is not a sin.
Neither is being lesbian, bisexual, or transgender.
The Bible never claims that it is.
It really doesn't.
Christians should stop saying it because it's reckless and irresponsible—and it's killing people.


Link to column

No, being LGBTQ is not a sin.

The sin, is the hatred that refuses to let go of that notion when evidence requires it.

 

[92tide]

a link from that piece. i have no idea if this gentleman’s study of hebrew and greek are up to snuff, so tifwiw

The Bible, Christianity and Homosexuality - GayChurch.org

by Rev. Justin Cannon (Inclusive Orthodoxy) Introduction What does the Bible really say about homosexuality? Should the Church allow the blessing of homosexual marriages/unions? Should a homosexual in a committed relationship be ordained a priest or even consecrated bishop? What about tradition...

www.gaychurch.org

 

[Huckleberry]

As someone that has studied both Greek and Hebrew on a masters degree level that was one of the worst written pieces on what the Bible says I have ever read. The exegesis in that article wouldn’t get a passing grade in a kindergarten Sunday school class. I wonder if the original copy was written in crayon?

Maybe so, but rather than simply accept your take on the author, I’d be interested in your thoughts on and refutation of his positions.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Here I was thinking NYBF was the only person alive who could properly translate ancient languages and tell everyone else how wrong they are.

 

[AWRTR]

Maybe so, but rather than simply accept your take on the author, I’d be interested in your thoughts on and refutation of his positions.

I’ve got some traveling to do this afternoon. I will go through it and do that this evening.

 

[AWRTR]

a link from that piece. i have no idea if this gentleman’s study of hebrew and greek are up to snuff, so tifwiw

The Bible, Christianity and Homosexuality - GayChurch.org

by Rev. Justin Cannon (Inclusive Orthodoxy) Introduction What does the Bible really say about homosexuality? Should the Church allow the blessing of homosexual marriages/unions? Should a homosexual in a committed relationship be ordained a priest or even consecrated bishop? What about tradition...

www.gaychurch.org

Once again hot garbage. He has to twist himself in knots to get to the point he wants to arrive at.

 

[AWRTR]

Here I was thinking NYBF was the only person alive who could properly translate ancient languages and tell everyone else how wrong they are.

Always go with the simplest plainest reading when you can. Some prophecy has to almost be decided. Those passages plainly say something in the original language. The other thing to always look out for is when someone comes up with a new way to read something that has been agreed on for 2,000 years. This is all progressive Christian rereading of the text that lines up with pretty much nothing over the last 2,000 years.

 

[Huckleberry]

Always go with the simplest plainest reading when you can. Some prophecy has to almost be decided. Those passages plainly say something in the original language. The other thing to always look out for is when someone comes up with a new way to read something that has been agreed on for 2,000 years. This is all progressive Christian rereading of the text that lines up with pretty much nothing over the last 2,000 years.

It's a good thing no one listened to that rabble-rouser Martin Luther when he advocated a few changes after only 1,500 years.

 

[AWRTR]

It's a good thing no one listened to that rabble-rouser Martin Luther when he advocated a few changes after only 1,500 years.

Luther was parting ways with the Catholic Church or trying to reform it if he could The Catholic Church puts church tradition, Scripture, and the teachings of the pope on similar and in some cases equal levels. Luther wanted to go back Scripture alone. He was trying to root the church in Scripture and it’s plain intended meaning and not allowing the addition of things like indulgences which have no basis in the Bible like your article.

 

[NationalTitles18]

I'm just glad that God did such a good job of picking the select few people he would reveal the true meaning of his word to and that their interpretation has never changed over 2,000 years.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Serious question because I stopped giving the Bible much thought when I left the church but does it ever say in the Bible that the Bible itself is infallible? Because wasn't it formed by a council at some point.

And why would anyone assume a book written by humans would be infallible?

Aren't there also differences within the gospels themselves?

 

[92tide]

I'm just glad that God did such a good job of picking the select few people he would reveal the true meaning of his word to and that their interpretation has never changed over 2,000 years.

not a single knot involved if you follow “truth” /s

 

[Padreruf]

The Thomas More Society is what I was referring to...they have worked to stack the SCOTUS bench.

 

[TexasBama]

not a single knot involved if you follow “truth” /s

Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. etc etc.

 

[AWRTR]

I'm just glad that God did such a good job of picking the select few people he would reveal the true meaning of his word to and that their interpretation has never changed over 2,000 years.

I’m glad too. It’s good to know we are on the same page.