LGBTQ Issues: Will We Choose Love and Acceptance or Hate and Oppression? (Part 2)

[CrimsonJazz]

I finally had my daughter turn off my auto-correct on my phone because I was sending some "doozies" of text messages that prompted a return text of "HUH?!?!?" or "????"

 

[Chukker Veteran]

If there were a way to compare the number of suicides among those that had the treatment (a group clearly defined) versus the number of suicides among those that felt they needed the treatment and for whatever reason were unable to get it, that would seem relevant to me. I would imagine the suicide rate for both groups would be higher than the general population.

 

[NationalTitles18]

85% of kids with gender dysphoria desist by the time they become adults.

One poor quality study does not a fact make. I didn't say it. It's in the link below.

Defining Desistance: Exploring Desistance in Transgender and Gender Expansive Youth Through Systematic Literature Review - PMC

Desistance is a concept that has been poorly defined in the literature, yet greatly impacts the arguments for and against providing gender-affirming care for transgender and gender expansive (TGE) youth. This literature review aims to provide an ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

it seems to me that being indifferent to abnormally high suicide rates isn't particularly "moral."

Gender affirming care reduces these rates, so...

And considering the behavior of some of these "trans-parents" it is crystal clear that the health of the child is less important than gaining a new level of social status among their fruit-loop peers.

Pure BS for 99.9999%.

 

[NationalTitles18]

If there were a way to compare the number of suicides among those that had the treatment (a group clearly defined) versus the number of suicides among those that felt they needed the treatment and for whatever reason were unable to get it, that would seem relevant to me. I would imagine the suicide rate for both groups would be higher than the general population.

Lots of studies are out there on this and confirm that gender affirming treatments improve mental health outcomes.

 

[JDCrimson]

I wish we could go back to the days where using your left hand was considered unclean and they would tie it behind your back to keep you from using it... it was such a simpler time.

 

[NationalTitles18]

The research showing the positive outcomes associated with gender affirming care are is convincing. There is overwhelming international consensus on the subject. The last quote contains links to 51 studies confirming these positive outcomes of gender affirming care.

Many of these studies are very robust, with good designs and methodologies and highly powered. The overall quality is quite good as a result. This lends credibility to the findings.

Had to add a second comment to break things up due to length.

Mental health benefits associated with gender-affirming surgery | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Gender-affirming surgeries are associated with numerous positive health benefits, including lower rates of psychological distress and suicidal ideation, as

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Gender-affirming surgeries were associated with a 42% reduction in psychological distress and a 44% reduction in suicidal ideation when compared with transgender and gender-diverse people who had not had gender-affirming surgery but wanted it, according to the findings. The study also found a 35% reduction in tobacco smoking among people who had gender-affirming surgeries.

https://www.peprec.research.va.gov/PEPRECRESEARCH/docs/Policy_Brief_24a_Gender_Affirming_Surgeries.pdf

Gender-Affirming Surgery as Suicide Prevention Since 1975, more than 2,000 scientific studies have examined gender-affirming care. Supported by over 30 leading medical associations, including the World Health Organization and the American Medical Association, gender-affirming care is deemed evidence-based and effective at reducing suicide rates.17,18 Consequently, gender-affirming surgeries in the United States nearly tripled from 2016 to 2019.19 A recent literature review of 23 studies reported that the majority found that gender-affirming treatment reduced suicidality.20 Some studies from the review found that undergoing one or more types of gender-affirming surgery was associated with lower past-month psychological distress and past-year suicidal ideation, while others saw reduced mental health treatment and fewer hospitalizations after a suicide attempt over years following.21,22,23 One of the studies included found that transgender and gender nonconforming people who had a gender-affirming surgery had notable reductions in psychological distress, suicide ideation, and tobacco smoking compared to those who didn’t have a surgery but wanted one.24
Most recently, the 2022 US Trans Survey: Early Insights Report (over 96,000 participants) found that nearly all respondents (97%) who had at least one form of surgery for their gender identity/transition reported that they were either “a lot more satisfied” (88%) or “a little more satisfied” (9%) with their life. 1% were neither satisfied nor less satisfied. The full report is expected to be released later this year. 25

What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being? | What We Know

Overview We conducted a systematic literature review of all peer-reviewed articles published in English between 1991 and June 2017 that assess the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being. We identified 55 studies that consist of primary research on this topic, of which 51 (93%)...

whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu

This search found a robust international consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that gender transition, including medical treatments such as hormone therapy and surgeries, improves the overall well-being of transgender individuals. The literature also indicates that greater availability of medical and social support for gender transition contributes to better quality of life for those who identify as transgender.

Below are 51 studies that found that gender transition improves the well-being of transgender people. Click here to jump to 4 studies that contain mixed or null findings on the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being. Click here to jump to 17 studies that consist of literature reviews or guidelines that help advance knowledge about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being.

 

[NationalTitles18]

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    Ainsworth and Spiegel, 2010
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• • Bailey, Ellis, & McNeil, 2014
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• • Bar et al., 2016
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• • Bodlund and Kullgren, 1996
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• • Bouman et al., 2016
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• • Boza and Nicholson, 2014
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• • Budge et al., 2013
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• • Cardoso da Silva et al., 2016
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• • Castellano et al., 2015
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• • Colizzi, Costa, & Todarello, 2014
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[NationalTitles18]

Unfortunately, I could not link all 51 studies on that page but follow the link and they are there. (including the link again here)

What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being? | What We Know

Overview We conducted a systematic literature review of all peer-reviewed articles published in English between 1991 and June 2017 that assess the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being. We identified 55 studies that consist of primary research on this topic, of which 51 (93%)...

whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu

 

[92tide]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1794781208137908435

This *Idaho jury* even asked the judge if they had the power to also make the far right blogger *apologize* to the drag performer. https://apnews.com/article/drag-performer-defamation-blogger-idaho-c0f3188081e17843059b27d19d5be980?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=share… "Idaho drag performer awarded $1.1 million in defamation case against far-right blogger"

 

[NationalTitles18]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1794781208137908435

This *Idaho jury* even asked the judge if they had the power to also make the far right blogger *apologize* to the drag performer. https://apnews.com/article/drag-performer-defamation-blogger-idaho-c0f3188081e17843059b27d19d5be980?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=share… "Idaho drag performer awarded $1.1 million in defamation case against far-right blogger"

A jury has awarded more than $1.1 million to an Idaho drag performer who accused a far-right blogger of defaming him when she falsely claimed that he exposed himself to a crowd, including children, during a Pride event in June 2022.

The Kootenai County District Court jury unanimously found Friday that Summer Bushnell defamed Post Falls resident Eric Posey when she posted a doctored video of his performance with a blurred spot that she claimed covered his “fully exposed genitals,” the Coeur D’Alene Press reported.

In reality the unedited video showed no indecent exposure, and prosecutors declined to file charges.

Why are people on the right allergic to the truth?

 

[Huckleberry]

District Can Deny Opt-Outs on LGBTQ+ Books, Court Rules

Religious parents objected to a Maryland district's policy ending opt-outs for elementary school 'storybooks' with LGBTQ+ themes.

www.edweek.org

A federal appeals court on May 15 refused to block a Maryland school district’s policy preventing parents from opting their children out of LGBTQ+ inclusive “storybooks” used in the English language arts curriculum in its elementary schools.

 

[92tide]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796889437181190403

For generations, LGBTQI+ Americans have summoned the courage to live proudly – even when it meant putting their lives at risk. This Pride Month, we recommit to realizing the promise of America for all, to celebrating LGBTQI+ people, and to taking pride in the example they set.

 

[Crimson1967]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1794781208137908435

This *Idaho jury* even asked the judge if they had the power to also make the far right blogger *apologize* to the drag performer. https://apnews.com/article/drag-performer-defamation-blogger-idaho-c0f3188081e17843059b27d19d5be980?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=share… "Idaho drag performer awarded $1.1 million in defamation case against far-right blogger"

Obviously this verdict is from a left wing jury picked from the ultra-liberal state of Idaho.

 

[92tide]

this is one way to deal with trash like desantis

Community members display their own version of pride, light up Main Street Bridge in San Marco

On Friday night, community members gathered to display their own version of pride – by lighting up the Main Street Bridge in San Marco with rainbow colors.

www.actionnewsjax.com

 

[Crimson1967]

 

[Huckleberry]

NYT gift link

Judge Strikes Down Florida’s Ban on Transgender Care for Minors
A federal judge ruled that Florida could not “prohibit transgender minors from receiving specific kinds of widely accepted gender-affirming medical care.”

 

[NationalTitles18]

NYT gift link

Judge Strikes Down Florida’s Ban on Transgender Care for Minors
A federal judge ruled that Florida could not “prohibit transgender minors from receiving specific kinds of widely accepted gender-affirming medical care.”

Those truly interested in freedom, patient rights, and parental rights should take every victory for the win it is.

 

[AWRTR]

Those truly interested in freedom, patient rights, and parental rights should take every victory for the win it is.

I loved the part where the judge said the political winds changed or maybe like in the UK and other European countries someone figured out this may not be a good idea and we need to slow this train down, but I know that’s all just nonsense and those European heath agencies are all fascists like DeSantis.

 

[NationalTitles18]

I loved the part where the judge said the political winds changed or maybe like in the UK and other European countries someone figured out this may not be a good idea and we need to slow this train down, but I know that’s all just nonsense and those European heath agencies are all fascists like DeSantis.

Besides Russia, what European country (if Russia can be called that) has outright banned transgender care for youth?

None is the correct answer.

But tell me what person knows better than the combo of the patient and the doctors and the parents?

None is again the correct answer.

 

[NationalTitles18]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/09/health/europe-transgender-youth-hormone-treatments.html

In the United States, Republican politicians have cited the pullback in Europe to justify laws against youth gender medicine. But the European policies are notably different from the outright bans for adolescents passed in 22 U.S. states, some of which threaten doctors with prison time or investigate parents for child abuse. The European countries will still allow gender treatments for certain adolescents and are requiring new clinical trials to study and better understand their effects.

“We haven’t banned the treatment,” said Dr. Mette Ewers Haahr, a psychiatrist who leads Denmark’s sole youth gender clinic, in Copenhagen. Effective treatments must consider human rights and patient safety, she said. “You have to weigh both.”
In February, the European Academy of Paediatrics acknowledged the concerns about youth gender medicine. “The fundamental question of whether biomedical treatments (including hormone therapy) for gender dysphoria are effective remains contested,” the group wrote. In contrast, the American Academy of Pediatrics last summer reaffirmed its endorsement of the care, stating that hormonal treatments are essential and should be covered by health insurers, while also commissioning a systematic review of evidence.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/06/us-europe-transgender-care-00119106

Numerous Republicans, including Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, have also cited those countries in defending new laws banning or restricting care for minors in 21 GOP-controlled states.

But a POLITICO review of the state of care for transgender people in Europe found more nuance than Republicans critics like Hunt and Bailey often portray. While Europeans are debating who should get care and when, only Russia has banned the practice. The reassessment of standards in some European countries has aimed to tighten eligibility for gender-affirming care, but also sought to expand research studies including minors.

But the British haven’t banned gender-affirming care for minors and plan to open new clinics with strict eligibility criteria.

What Republicans have portrayed as a rejection of treatment for children could as easily be seen as a debate about mismanagement and clinical standards.


In announcing the Tavistock clinic’s closure, the NHS said it would “improve and expand services for children and young people experiencing gender incongruence and gender dysphoria” across the country. The promised new services would “ensure that the holistic needs” of patients are fully met, the health service said.

After a legal battle centering on care for minors, the Court of Appeal, a rung below the Supreme Court, ruled in September 2021 that doctors, not judges, should decide whether minors may consent to gender-affirming care.

For now, the NHS has delayed the closure of the clinic until March 2024, and it continues to treat existing patients, while declining new ones.

NHS plans to open two new regional clinics over the next six months.

When Republicans critical of gender-affirming care make the case for restricting or banning it for minors, they also point to France...

...But French doctors offering transgender care said the guidelines aren’t impeding access. Children are eligible for hormone treatments with parental permission at any age and for surgical removal of breasts from age 14. However, hormones are usually prescribed around age 15 or 16 and breast surgery is usually performed after 16, said Laetitia Martinerie, a doctor in the pediatric endocrinology and diabetology department at the Robert-Debré University Hospital in Paris...

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The guidelines also urge the involvement of a team of doctors in relevant specialties, psychological care for the patient and clear disclosure of the ramifications of irreversible surgeries.

“It has not changed anything as we were already providing multidisciplinary care,” Martinerie said.

A year and a half after the Karolinska decision, the National Board of Health and Welfare, a Swedish government agency, updated its guidelines on gender-affirming care for minors. It stated that puberty blockers, hormones, and mastectomies should only be used in “exceptional cases,” as the risks are likely to outweigh the benefits. In addition, the board said, mental health care should be offered to patients when doctors are assessing them.

The board recommended physicians look for a long, persistent history of gender dysphoria since childhood and distress caused by the onset of puberty.

In practice, Karolinska and Sweden’s other clinics continue to have latitude to decide which cases qualify, said Edward Summanen, project manager at Sweden’s largest trans organization, Transammans.

“According to our experiences, many young trans people who need gender-affirming care can access it,” Summanem said, albeit with long wait times.

The guidelines proposed by the Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board would have made it far more difficult for young trans people to receive treatment, trans organizations said at the time.

So far, the Norwegian Directorate of Health, which has the authority to set formal guidelines, hasn’t adopted the board’s recommendation.

The directorate has instead maintained current rules that allow children to receive puberty blockers once puberty has started and get hormone treatment starting at age 16. While surgical treatment is generally not applicable to minors, chest surgery can be approved in special cases.

“There is no ongoing revision to the guidelines,” Torunn Janbu, director of specialized health care services in the Norwegian Directorate of Health, told POLITICO.

You'd think Europe had banned the practice if republicans and totally nots were to be believed. Far from it. Many have continued or expanded access and provide more comprehensive care than is even available to many here (unfortunately for our youth our mental health system is in shambles). Clinical trials have been expanded. Some restrictions have been placed and caution has been advised. Most are trying to deepen their understanding and gain more knowledge, not simply close off access and ignore the needs of this population.