Poll / discussion: Who will start at QB?

[TheTradition]

Simpson seems to be the guy to me. UA put out some video of the 3 QBs throwing and Ty was throwing the ball as the guy was still in his break whereas Milroe was waiting until he had made his break and taken 3-4 steps. The transfer is a turnover machine, I don't trust him.

Simpson was a turnover machine in the spring, but fans didn’t have the opportunity to witness it. We’ve seen Milroe have similar issues firsthand.

I do think whoever protects the ball best in camp without being too cautious will ultimately be the starter.

 

[81usaf92]

Simpson was a turnover machine in the spring, but fans didn’t have the opportunity to witness it. We’ve seen Milroe have similar issues firsthand.

I do think whoever protects the ball best in camp without being too cautious will ultimately be the starter.

Well also remember practicing vs scrimmaging is very different. I would say we will know who is starting on the 19th.

 

[81usaf92]

It doesn't.

I hope we all support whoever wins the job. I remember some eye rolling comments from previous qb battles on other boards. (and a few on this one). Almost like certain fans were upset that "their" guy didn't win.

Honestly I don’t care who wins the job. My only issue is how certain fans keep this nonsense going about how Buchner is a turnover machine or how can we trust a guy who couldn’t beat out a transfer at nd. The fact of the matter is that Saban wanted him here and felt neither of the two guys he had didn’t do enough to win the job in the spring or give him warm fuzzies about the fall.

I just hate these quarterback battles with no clear answer to who will win. Bama fans act like Twilight fans on picking their favorite.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

Honestly I don’t care who wins the job. My only issue is how certain fans keep this nonsense going about how Buchner is a turnover machine or how can we trust a guy who couldn’t beat out a transfer at nd. The fact of the matter is that Saban wanted him here and felt neither of the two guys he had didn’t do enough to win the job in the spring or give him warm fuzzies about the fall.

I just hate these quarterback battles with no clear answer to who will win. Bama fans act like Twilight fans on picking their favorite.

I don’t think all turnovers are made the same in the blame category. I think forcing something to happen out of desperation and inexperience is different then just something that happened because you can’t read a defense or hit a slant over the middle. This is coming from a guy who really really really wanted jalen milroe to work out at the beginning of all this.

 

[CajunCrimson]

I think you give Milroe 6-8 touches per game. Whether that’s in the Wildcat. Or on the goal line. Or as a tight end. Something to make his year here worthwhile.

then let him transfer after the season and let him be a part of this.

 

[WylieTexasTider]

While a package for Milroe exists, he won't be the starter. Simpson has the most upside if he can limit the mistakes. If he can't Ty is the man. (That is still the great unknown) That is from a reliable source inside the building.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

While a package for Milroe exists, he won't be the starter. Simpson has the most upside if he can limit the mistakes. If he can't Ty is the man. (That is still the great unknown) That is from a reliable source inside the building.

having Two qbs that can be nicknamed “TY” can gets really confusing. Lol

 

[JustNeedMe81]

I think you give Milroe 6-8 touches per game. Whether that’s in the Wildcat. Or on the goal line. Or as a tight end. Something to make his year here worthwhile.

then let him transfer after the season and let him be a part of this.

6-8 touches throughout the season? In a game? nah. You don't steal reps from a starting QB...

 

[CajunCrimson]

6-8 touches throughout the season? In a game? nah. You don't steal reps from a starting QB...

2006 Florida
2009 Bama

are two that come to mind.

Florida did that a few years successfully.

 

[BamaMoon]

6-8 touches throughout the season? In a game? nah. You don't steal reps from a starting QB...

2006 Florida
2009 Bama

are two that come to mind.

Florida did that a few years successfully.

I think I agree with '81 on this.

Only reason we did that in 09 is because McElroy hit a wall and really struggled about midway thru the season. That's why MI had to basically run the wildcat in the game against USCe. We didn't do it to "feature" MI but to rescue GM.

And when UF did it in 06 it was to work in an unknown star in Tebow, while Leak was the more experienced QB.

It's right the opposite with Milroe, in my opinion, being the most experienced guy. If by his Jr. year he can't run the full offense and we have a QB who can, why rob the starter of those touches?

IMO, Milroe can have the "blowout duties" and run as much as he wants to because we'll be trying to kill the clock. But if the game is on the line, we need the QB who can run the full offense the best.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

I to this day think it would have made sense to give Jalen Hurts some short yardage or redzone snaps when Tua was the starter.

I'm not sure if I feel the same way about Milroe or not yet but I don't hate the idea.

Oklahoma did it with Blake Bell fairly successfully just as a short yardage guy. Some NFL teams have tried it at times as well. It also can protect your starter from hits they take on QB sneaks and such. Especially if you're using a bigger/stronger body type as the short yardage guy.

 

[TIDE24]

I do not expect to see an established starter until after the TX game. Who ever the starter is for MTSU may not be the starter for S FL. I expect someone to separate themselves in the TX game, and the stat line will not be the determining factor. See USC in 2016. Here is the stat line from both QBs

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT		QBR
6/11	118	10.7	2	1		71.7
5/6	100	16.7	1	0		18.5

Blake was 5/6 with a TD. Jalen was 6/11 and had an int but he was clearly the better QB. I doubt fall camp will decide this, it will be live competition.

The bigger question is, I think you have to narrow it to two at some point. There is just not enough practice reps to go around. Which two will get the bulk of the reps heading into the last week or two?

 

[CoachJeff]

I do not expect to see an established starter until after the TX game. Who ever the starter is for MTSU may not be the starter for S FL. I expect someone to separate themselves in the TX game, and the stat line will not be the determining factor. See USC in 2016. Here is the stat line from both QBs

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT		QBR
6/11	118	10.7	2	1		71.7
5/6	100	16.7	1	0		18.5

Blake was 5/6 with a TD. Jalen was 6/11 and had an int but he was clearly the better QB. I doubt fall camp will decide this, it will be live competition.


The bigger question is, I think you have to narrow it to two at some point. There is just not enough practice reps to go around. Which two will get the bulk of the reps heading into the last week or two?

Blake was a deer in the headlights in that game. Jalen also had 2 rushing TDs in the USC game whereas Barnett had 0 (and -10 rushing yards).

Blake's TD was after the game was in hand and Jalen was pulled.

 

[Tidelines]

I have never understood why the backup QB doesn’t get to run the full offense in any game he gets to play in. It just doesn’t make sense to me to have him come in and hand off three times and punt.

 

[gtgilbert]

As much as I would like to see Simpson win the gig, do you really think a 30 second video shows us anything?

I've tried to extrapolate from similar videos, but I really think it's more about what happens when the lights come on with a real defense in their face.

It doesn't show us everything we need to know for sure, but it does show us something. in this very limited sample, Simpson was way, way better at anticipating the WR break, and throwing before the break/cut, so the WR was catching right when he'd actually be open. Milroe, and to a lesser degree Buchner, were throwing after the WR was out of their break/cut.

That is actually a big, important difference.

 

[CrimsonBloodn62]

I have never understood why the backup QB doesn’t get to run the full offense in any game he gets to play in. It just doesn’t make sense to me to have him come in and hand off three times and punt.

People want to call it respect/class and not trying to run up the score. I’m like you let the backups run the offense/defense and let the other team stop it if they don’t like it. The heck with trying not to hurt the other teams feelings.

 

[CoolBreeze]

I have never understood why the backup QB doesn’t get to run the full offense in any game he gets to play in. It just doesn’t make sense to me to have him come in and hand off three times and punt.

If we were at practice everyday we might understand why.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Sounds like QBs had an up and down day at the open practice today. Allegedly Buchner didn't look great, Milroe and Ty were up in down with maybe Milroe looking like the best one but some saying Ty looked better outside a really bad arm punt

Only one practice and an open one so 🤷‍♂️

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

Sounds like QBs had an up and down day at the open practice today. Allegedly Buchner didn't look great, Milroe and Ty were up in down with maybe Milroe looking like the best one but some saying Ty looked better outside a really bad arm punt

Only one practice and an open one so 🤷‍♂️

Weird, reports I read made it sound like Ty simpson was the best one but who knows?? Still got all of fall camp to figure it out.

Honestly, not surprising.

 

[BamaMoon]

It doesn't show us everything we need to know for sure, but it does show us something. in this very limited sample, Simpson was way, way better at anticipating the WR break, and throwing before the break/cut, so the WR was catching right when he'd actually be open. Milroe, and to a lesser degree Buchner, were throwing after the WR was out of their break/cut.

That is actually a big, important difference.

I get the importance of timing and anticipating the route when he's not open yet. Sure, that's important and I wasn't saying it's not.

The video I saw was each guy throwing 1 o 2 passes in a offensive drill against no defender. Not saying Simpson didn't throw with the best anticipation or timing but that these little videos (as I understand them) are shot in a short media period when I imagine the QBs are just going thru some simple little drills to get warmed up.

I'm rooting for Simpson cause I think he's got the most upside, but I just don't think that video sets him apart until he can do that in a live scrimmage.