Bama getting no respect

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colbysullivan

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1) Alabama started at #8.
2) Nobody ahead of them has lost.
3) Alabama has not beaten anybody in the Top Ten.
Here's the only part of your wall of text that matters, but again you are missing the point. Bama NEVER should have been #8 to begin with. Oregon has beaten ZERO ranked teams, Bama has beaten 3. Nevermind the fact that Texas has straight up struggled in their last few games. Goodness, you can't possibly be ok with these rankings.
 

colbysullivan

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I agree. All expanding the playoffs is doing is kicking the can down the road and devaluing the regular season. Heck, we couldn't even get the "12 team playoff" format correct. It's like people are behind the scenes actively trying to murder college football.
Exactly! 12 teams is already too much, but they couldn't even get the format correct. Guaranteeing the top 4 spots for conference champions is GARBAGE. Yes, you read that correctly. 2021 UGA would have been the #5 seed!

College football IS NOT THE NFL, no matter how much the powers that be want it to be.
 
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colbysullivan

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You do realize that “casual” fans are needed for the survival of college football. Probably more so than die harders.

One thing that irks me, among many, about Pate is that he loves to throw the “casual” comment out always in the negative and his diehard followers love to boost their egos by repeating it. Without casual fans college football simply doesn’t exist because is ceases to be profitable. Don’t believe me… go to UA for a semester in the fall and you’ll be shocked at how much of the student population isn’t an Alabama fan or a football fan at all. College football is going to have to make changes or die because future generations are finding it to be less and less desirable.
Sure but they shouldn't be the ones driving the sport. There are people who thought Colorado was going to the playoffs this year. I don't want those people anywhere near this sport.
 

colbysullivan

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I don't think it was a contact injury, just cutting from what I could briefly tell

tennessee did try and purposely take bowers out though, jumping on his ankles after a play.
Sorry to hear about Ladd. It's not surprising they tried to take out Bowers though. They took a few cheap shots against Bryce Young last year. None were called of course.
 

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As far as rankings, you pay your money and you take your chances. We were NOT impressive several games, even though we won. Tough games, yes, but we did not blow anyone out. Look what UGA did to OM...

If we win out we will not be left out...an SEC champion with an early out of conference loss will be included...especially since it will mean we ran the table. If we lose to UGA -- then a NY's Day bowl...
 

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As far as rankings, you pay your money and you take your chances. We were NOT impressive several games, even though we won. Tough games, yes, but we did not blow anyone out. Look what UGA did to OM...

If we win out we will not be left out...an SEC champion with an early out of conference loss will be included...especially since it will mean we ran the table. If we lose to UGA -- then a NY's Day bowl...
Couple of issues here.
1. Many (if not all) of the top teams have unimpressive wins and struggle games.
2. The confidence of "if we win out we will not be left out" is unfounded. I don't know why people believe without help, we are making it in. The committee has shown us clear as day that they are discounting this Alabama team and barring some upsets, we will be left out.
 
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The confidence of "if we win out we will not be left out" is unfounded. I don't know why people believe without help, we are making it in. The committee has shown us clear as day that they are discounting this Alabama team and barring some upsets, we will be left out.
The SEC champ has never been left out of the playoff. But like the disclaimer says, past results are no guarantee of future performance.
 
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So TCU deserved to be in because they were a better football team? If the committee's charter is to select the 4 best teams, then that's where you're at. But obfuscate away.
Then explain to me how a two loss non divisional champion team who struggled all year long is one of the best 4 teams and should get in over any 1 loss team. Y’all are acting like this is the crime of the century and that everything was robbed by a committed. If it’s so obvious then point it out.
 
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BamaMoon

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I'm concerned with the regular season being severely devalued with the 12-team playoff. And again, that is my problem with casual fans (not directed at anyone here). They simply don't understand what makes college football great.
I'm not concerned at all because the 12 team playoff will reward the first 4 with a bye, IIRC.

The 12 regular season games WILL ALWAYS MATTER just like they matter right now.

Yeah, there will be some 2 loss teams make the 12 game CFP, but I'd go out on a limb and say they also won't sniff the final 4 either. They'll likely lose in the first round and if they get past that game they'll be matched up against one of the top four teams and probably get boatraced.

"But what about the NFL's regular season not mattering as much?" someone will ask. That's a different animal because there is so much more parity in the NFL game.
 
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BamaSully

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They’re going to pick what they think are the best 4 teams. When they are deliberating that I doubt they will concern themselves with “but they’re the SEC champs so we have to put them in”…and I don’t think they should be thinking that because that’s not their job.

They’ve already consistently communicated to the football world that they see Bama as the 8th best team. Whether we agree with that or not is unfortunately irrelevant.

We obviously will need help
 

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Then explain to me how a two loss non divisional champion team who struggled all year long is one of the best 4 teams and should get in over any 1 loss team. Y’all are acting like this is the crime of the century and that everything was robbed by a committed. If it’s so obvious then point it out.
Strength of schedule for one. The Big12 was a clownshow last year. Plus, take into account the context surrounding our two losses. Throw in the fact that we destroyed KSU, and the committee looks silly.
 

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Don’t believe me… go to UA for a semester in the fall and you’ll be shocked at how much of the student population isn’t an Alabama fan or a football fan at all. College football is going to have to make changes or die because future generations are finding it to be less and less desirable.
Ohio State has been this way for decades. This happens when you attract a huge out of state student population.
 

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Then explain to me how a two loss non divisional champion team who struggled all year long is one of the best 4 teams and should get in over any 1 loss team. Y’all are acting like this is the crime of the century and that everything was robbed by a committed. If it’s so obvious then point it out.
I'm not "ya'll". The crime of the century was arguably the 2008 financial crisis.

The committee claimed Alabama was the 5th best team. I don't know if Alabama was one of the 4 best teams, but I'm reasonably confident they were better than their 4th best team.
 
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You do realize that “casual” fans are needed for the survival of college football. Probably more so than die harders.

One thing that irks me, among many, about Pate is that he loves to throw the “casual” comment out always in the negative and his diehard followers love to boost their egos by repeating it. Without casual fans college football simply doesn’t exist because is ceases to be profitable. Don’t believe me… go to UA for a semester in the fall and you’ll be shocked at how much of the student population isn’t an Alabama fan or a football fan at all. College football is going to have to make changes or die because future generations are finding it to be less and less desirable.
Ohio State has been this way for decades. This happens when you attract a huge out of state student population.
I think I here what y'all are saying, but isn't the growth in Bama's student population directly related to Bama's football dynasty under CNS? Seeing Bama on TV every week and seeing how fun it looks attracts a lot of out of staters to UA.

Sure, I know there will be some of those students who couldn't care less, but I also bet a lot of students who come not liking football leave being crazy about it!
 
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