Transfer Portal 2023-2024...

[Tidelines]

The problem is that Saban became the Program...in some ways he was bigger than Bama all by himself.

Yes, but who among us didn’t revel in the process. Alot rides on Deboer's first season. Win big ( not necessarily a national title )and we will quickly rebuild momentum. Two or three really good seasons and the perception will shift back to "well, Bama is just Bama. No matter who is there." In the long run, isn't that what history teaches.

 

[SkullDuckery]

There should be a 30 day pause on the portal for teams with coaching changes. Let these guys have some time to think things over then open the portal for 7 days. It would help a lot with all the tampering from other schools and let the new coaching staff sell their program.

 

[AlexanderFan]

haha when you got nothing else, start questioning someone’s “fandom” simply because I stated my concerns. It’s a message board. I’ve rolled with the Tide since 82, so make up what you want.

Sorry I hurt your feelings.

It’s the broken record of your “concerns”, along with your absolute refusal to acknowledge any of the positive news that has people labeling you a pot stirrer.

 

[RammerJammer14]

I had this talk with my nephew last night. He can't believe anyone would leave Bama EVER. I told him there is a huge difference between being a fan and being a player raised on meager means. Fans love the team. Players have other concerns.

From all accounts, Bama is behind on NIL cash supply. All these "leaders" tweeting they will be staying--maybe it is love for Bama--or maybe the new staff has to spend limited money on just a certain number of players. So some get paid--and part of that payment requires posting on twitter about continuing the grind and including a few elephant emojis. The "losers" walked in, made their demands and the staff turned their pockets inside out (moth flying out for effect). Next thing you know, they are eating grapes elseswhere. And yes, you would think some of those that left should have been given the cash to stay--but without knowing how much cash is in the safe, it is hard to know how cards should be played. Pay it all to keep one 5*; divy the same amount up to keep 3 4*s?

With Saban, Bama might have been able to hold this together for a bit longer with the argument that Bama NIL cash comes from NFL contracts. But now Saban is gone and the NIL recruiting pitch requires cash-on-hand. As much as I love and respect the Capstone and know that Bama has had many successful grads, I am not sure Bama can keep up when it comes to cash payments. Where would Bama be ranked in ability to fleece donors for NIL--maybe top 20. Maybe not.

Finally, recent success may hurt when making the phone call to potential donors. If this were 2009 on the heals of losing to Florida in the SEC championship game and no title in almost 20 years, every blue collar worker and business owner in the state would have written a check to win. Now.....well the hunger is satiated a bit.

It is going to be interesting, and I am here for the ride. I was a fan when I was biting my nails during a Kentucky game in the mid '90s, and I will be a fan next year and going forward--albeit maybe less so.

The game has changed. Not sure the players really have. Who is to say what All-Bama Stabler, for example, would have done if someone would have doubled his NIL money back in the day. That to say, I don't really blame any of them. I hate what has happened to the game--but it was inevitable, and we are just seeing it play out when we have been a bit protected from it to this point.

I’m sorry, but isn’t NIL “Name, Image, Likeness”? Is this not supposed to be commercial advertising money? I was unaware that it was bounty money and salary. What is all this talk of paying players cash? If they are getting paid to play then we need contracts.

This sport is now wholly unregulated and it is destroying itself.

 

[squib]

I’m sorry, but isn’t NIL “Name, Image, Likeness”? Is this not supposed to be commercial advertising money? I was unaware that it was bounty money and salary. What is all this talk of paying players cash? If they are getting paid to play then we need contracts.

This sport is now wholly unregulated and it is destroying itself.

Yes, that is what NIL is supposed to be. But that is not how it has been implemented. How many ads or promos have you seen with players--just one or two? Let's see what promos you see with Bonds next week. California Grape Commission?

 

[statgrad96]

There should be a 30 day pause on the portal for teams with coaching changes. Let these guys have some time to think things over then open the portal for 7 days. It would help a lot with all the tampering from other schools and let the new coaching staff sell their program.

It's hitting us now, but wait until Harbaugh takes the LA Chargers job...

 

[81usaf92]

One thing many of the Chicken littles need to realize is that a pit of hell (aka 30 day transfer portal) opened up for us when Saban retired. CKD is getting punched but isn’t allowed to punch back yet. While trying to recruit hs talent and build a staff he has to convince guys to stay. It is something everyone other than currently Washington and Arizona aren’t experiencing. CKD isn’t allowed to recruit people on other teams with the exception of those with portals opened.

Point is…. Be patient and just hope the bleeding slows down. It could always be way worse, look at Oklahoma 2 years ago.

 

[JohnD]

It stinks that so many of the players are considering the portal. That said, if you look at it from the perspective that many of these guys committed to Bama in large part because of the opportunity to play for the greatest coach to ever walk a college sideline and now they're going to be playing for a head coach (and other coaches) they may never have even heard of until a month or so ago, it makes it more understandable that they are looking elsewhere.

I don't like it, and it's going to hurt us at least in the short term, but it's not all that surprising.

And regardless of his ability, I can understand how many of the players on defense are like "who, huh, what?" in terms of the new DC hire.

There is plenty of top notch talent out there that Saban could not sign, or did not recruit. So they don't have the perspective of having lost something like some of the players here that are leaving. And make no mistake, some are leaving for playing time at a lower competition level and others for more money. It will take some time for DeBoer to build credibility in this part of the country and hit his stride in recruiting. The media exposure will help with that.

 

[countrytider]

It’s the broken record of your “concerns”, along with your absolute refusal to acknowledge any of the positive news that has people labeling you a pot stirrer.

have you taken the time to read my posts? I generally just call it like I see it..some positive and some negative. In regard to the transfers if you will look I have “liked” almost every post about a player staying. We have had almost 25 players hit the portal. If you guys feel good about the situation more power to you. I’m legit concerned…

..and that dude was literally the only one and the first one to call me that.

 

[rolltide_21]

One thing many of the Chicken littles need to realize is that a pit of hell (aka 30 day transfer portal) opened up for us when Saban retired. CKD is getting punched but isn’t allowed to punch back yet. While trying to recruit hs talent and build a staff he has to convince guys to stay. It is something everyone other than currently Washington and Arizona aren’t experiencing. CKD isn’t allowed to recruit people on other teams with the exception of those with portals opened.

Point is…. Be patient and just hope the bleeding slows down. It could always be way worse, look at Oklahoma 2 years ago.

Agreed. The portal is why I don't put much stock into what we rank in recruiting. Players can be here one year and gone the next. We've also benefited from the portal so it is a double-edged sword. I do think a 30 day window is too long. Maybe 14 day window after a coaching change, especially with all of the tampering that's going on in CFB without a change.

 

[BamaBoySince89]

NIL should be restricted to legitimate business agreements, such as, spokesperson and advertising deals or businesses like the whole LANK thing. Let the guys find sources of income, but it can't just be a collective of boosters lining their pockets. It has to be a real business venture with sources of income that can be traced for real work or real use of Name Image and Likeness like billboards, personal appearances for autographs and signings, or product endorsements of some kind. You would throw in businesses started by the players that play off of their NIL.

Agreed. Build value for yourself through your play on the feild and let that be in the form of endorsements and things you mentioned. Just feels like its a gimme game and nobody wants to really work for it

 

[CrimSonami]

Agreed. The portal is why I don't put much stock into what we rank in recruiting. Players can be here one year and gone the next. We've also benefited from the portal so it is a double-edged sword. I do think a 30 day window is too long. Maybe 14 day window after a coaching change, especially with all of the tampering that's going on in CFB without a change.

I hate the portal. But it is here to stay. If you’re going to open it to players due to a HC change leave it at 30 days. Those who are going to jump due to rash decisions and money will go quickly and those with a good head on their shoulders will have opportunity to explore but wait on the staff changes to develop and evaluate their place and it gives the HC a bit more time to assemble the staff.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I hate the portal. But it is here to stay. If you’re going to open it to players due to a HC change leave it at 30 days. Those who are going to jump due to rash decisions and money will go quickly and those with a good head on their shoulders will have opportunity to explore but wait on the staff changes to develop and evaluate their place and it gives the HC a bit more time to assemble the staff.

That's the way its set up currently...

 

[TideEngineer08]

One thing many of the Chicken littles need to realize is that a pit of hell (aka 30 day transfer portal) opened up for us when Saban retired. CKD is getting punched but isn’t allowed to punch back yet. While trying to recruit hs talent and build a staff he has to convince guys to stay. It is something everyone other than currently Washington and Arizona aren’t experiencing. CKD isn’t allowed to recruit people on other teams with the exception of those with portals opened.

Point is…. Be patient and just hope the bleeding slows down. It could always be way worse, look at Oklahoma 2 years ago.

I still have a net positive feeling. Sometimes there is addition by subtraction.

I think we end up better off in the long run, but may have to prep for something less than we have grown very accustomed to for 2024.

 

[FitToBeTide]

There should be a 30 day pause on the portal for teams with coaching changes. Let these guys have some time to think things over then open the portal for 7 days. It would help a lot with all the tampering from other schools and let the new coaching staff sell their program.

At the risk of sounding like an Eeyore, this kind of rational action ain’t gonna happen. I like it, but who or what organization has the cajones to try and put the fence around it. The NCAA? They would have more success putting toothpaste back into the tube, or insert your own metaphor here. There has been a paradigm shift in the college game that’s not going to change anytime soon, if ever. The inmates are certainly running the asylum now.

Will entertain any optimism you’ve got for the situation. Rant-let ended.

 

[Tide-one-on]

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[FitToBeTide]

DuckDuckGo browser on iPhone…I didn’t know there were ads

Works quite well on my Mac browser also. Thanks.

 

[Superdad]

NIL should be restricted to legitimate business agreements, such as, spokesperson and advertising deals or businesses like the whole LANK thing. Let the guys find sources of income, but it can't just be a collective of boosters lining their pockets. It has to be a real business venture with sources of income that can be traced for real work or real use of Name Image and Likeness like billboards, personal appearances for autographs and signings, or product endorsements of some kind. You would throw in businesses started by the players that play off of their NIL.

Open up the portal for entry once a year after the season is completely over including playoffs and all bowl games. It would last a few weeks like NFL free agency. If you don't get an offer then you can go back to your former school if they want you and haven't given away your scholarship already. If you don't get an offer then you are a man without a home and you can be signed later if someone wants you and has a scholarship for you.

Good ideas. I’d rather get rid of both.

 

[cbi1972]

Agreed. The portal is why I don't put much stock into what we rank in recruiting. Players can be here one year and gone the next. We've also benefited from the portal so it is a double-edged sword. I do think a 30 day window is too long. Maybe 14 day window after a coaching change, especially with all of the tampering that's going on in CFB without a change.

Hastening their decisions is unlikely to improve the quality of the decisions.

 

[CrimSonami]

That's the way its set up currently...

,,,, which is why I stated “leaving” it at 30 days