Transfer Portal 2023-2024...

[BamaMoon]

If the report about Sayin favoring Rees is true this is just confirmation that "relationships" in recruiting have a lot to do with this attrition and of course that starts with CNS.

Again, I still wouldn't believe CKD indicated JS was not wanted in the program even if my mom called me and told me her preacher said it was true.

It's likely JS was thinking about the portal as soon as CNS said he's retiring. He probably waited to see about who the new staff would be and whether Rees might be retained OR to see where he might go.

Furthermore, I seriously doubt it had any connection with the Mack transfer unless JS had already indicated to CKD he was planning on leaving and that could have triggered the offer to Mack.

 

[KrAzY3]

maybe they know something we don't??

Not trying to monopolize this, but I missed editing that post. Someone showed a Twitter post indicated he did have a Washington offer, while the 247 page or whatever I viewed didn't show one. So seems that was inaccurate. I found the post and edited, don't want to promote inaccuracies.

Of course we've come full circle to the point that now there's debate at how the staff felt about Sayin and that much is still very much in the air.

Welcome to the current world of constantly shifting sand.

Playing along with the line of your comments, they could turn out to just be really confident in their path forward with Mack. If that was the true play, it's just incredibly bold. The boosters that sent NIL money to Sayin wouldn't be happy, the people that really bought into the idea he was the future wouldn't be happy, and of course that puts all the pressure on Mack and DeBoer to come through or else there will be some backlash.

I honestly hope it isn't true that the staff preferred Mack, I prefer the idea he just walked for money because this takes pressure off of DeBoer. It can add to the narrative of oh well, lost some key guys, had to rebuild. If he did make this move on purpose though, man that's a win now, go big, all the chips on the table type of move.

I hope it didn't go down like that, but that's the stuff of legends if you make that move and it pays off. Heck, he'd be like the first person ever to actually get me to shut up.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Looking at Mack now, he has the leg up in spring. He's been in DeBoers system for a year. He knows the calls and how they want things done.

The QB competition should be really good this time around..............I think TS and Lonergan will do well too.

 

[bamamc1]

In my opinion, Grubb & CKD will be considerable upgrade over Rees. If true, that is very short-sighted of Sayin.

I’m pretty sure Grubb won’t look like a patient in the waiting room at the dentist knowing he’s about to have a root canal. RTR

 

[bamafaninbham]

TJ Finley is in the portal.
Any takers???

 

[RammerJammer14]

Man, we still have 2 1/2 weeks of this crap. These transfer rules are garbage. We might as well be on probation, with all the punches we are being forced to take. If the NCAA really wanted to punish a team for cheating, they would just treat them like a team where the head coach leaves.

I hope every single program taking our players right now gets absolutely gutted when it is their turn.

 

[Special K]

I'm really shocked Sayin is bailing. Getting Grub as OC should have been music to his ears.

 

[BamaFanInTally]

Could not agree more. The loss to Clemson was shocking, not as much the final score but the fact that prior to halftime he looked like he had already given up, though the game was in reach. I had never seen that before. That game did not change him but he had already begun to change. Don't know what it was or precisely when but it had already begun and would continue to manifest itself in many ways. If I were forced to guess, the incredible turnover on his staff was the primary precipitator. It just wore him out and he began to settle and just stumbled into Sarkisian, Flood and a few others.

With that in mind, this new staff looks far far better. If there is anyone left to play next year , they will be far better coached than the last 6 years.

In 2018, we had the most “me” position coaches and coordinators in any year during Saban ‘s tenure. That was a disaster waiting to happen, IMO.

 

[BamaMoon]

@KrAzY3

If the quotes are accurate it's from multiple insiders.

You really are going to believe he told the top QB in the class he's not wanted???

I for one was uneasy when I saw Mack committed. I mean you have Sayin, what do you need another QB for?

Isn't it 100% more likely JS is the one who indicated he's considering leaving first rather than CKD suggesting he should leave?

And even if CKD wants to bring in Mack after seeing him develop last year that's his prerogative and it would only create a better iron sharpens iron environment.

So in the very least we know the staff was more concerned about the QB situation than others might have been.

Again, you are assuming JS is reacting to Mack and not the other way around, but even if you are correct you don't turn down the caliber of QB Austin Mack seems to be. And remember Eli Holstein had already hit the portal and if JM or TS don't win the job in the fall I could see either OR even both hitting the portal in the fall window.

In either case, calling him a brat for leaving after another QB was brought in seems a bit unwarranted.

I didn't call him a brat (don't think you are saying I did) but I agree it's unwarranted. We (don't know your age but a bunch of us are 50+ in age) love to imagine we would act a lot different from the kids and the big NIL opportunities if this were us but when I was JS's age I had a job bagging groceries making minimum wage when it was still $3.50 an hour. And I was willing to play college basketball for free as a walk-on. I can't imagine what I'd do if someone told me I could've played basketball for a full ride much less some cash to go with it!!!

For the record, never said he couldn't coach.

Fair, but then maybe quit comparing him to the worst coaches we've had in between the Bryant and Saban years.

 

[SkullDuckery]

I’m pretty sure Grubb won’t look like a patient in the waiting room at the dentist knowing he’s about to have a root canal. RTR

If he does it’s going to be a long 2 or 3 seasons before the next coaching change.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Anyone saying DeBoer told Sayin he was not wanted is full of bravo sierra. Let's get real, people.

 

[bamamc1]

I'm not very inclined to sit by and watch someone get called names based on assumptions that might not be accurate.

We don't know why Sayin left for sure right now. Even JessN was very noncommittal in his post about it.

This much is certain right now. It's not obvious he left for more money. It's not obvious he left for any reason that should cause others to sit in judgement of him.

Having said that, I was too hasty with the initial information I got about the scholarship offer. I don't know how DeBoer feels about Sayin and I should heed my own words on that until something more concrete emerges.

Maybe someone will share this with the departing 5*

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1746590809112101347

 

[BamaMoon]

Looking at Mack now, he has the leg up in spring. He's been in DeBoers system for a year. He knows the calls and how they want things done.

And go watch the video of his HS coach breaking down the plays than ran, what the QB was watching for and the progressions he should go thru and it's very likely he's more advanced than last year's starter in not just the CKD/Grubb scheme but reading defenses in general.

Based on today's events and his time in the system already it wouldn't shock me if he's not challenging for the #1 to #2 spot in the spring and fall.

 

[bamamc1]

Just an outside thought, but can you imagine what the pressure on Kirby Smart will be to win the Alabama game next year after all of this? If he doesn't...

I can’t wait for that one. Hopefully, it’s a night game and we’re both undefeated. The pressure is all on them and especially smart. RTR

 

[Ledsteplin]

On a positive note:
Former players Denzel Devall and Josh Chapman out talking to recruits.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748070214724444286

 

[BamaMoon]

Welp, I'm gonna look at today and say I don't think it can get any worse than today's news.

Losing Forest Gump is as bad as it can get!

 

[BamaMoon]

Seriously now that the Downs and Saying downfall has occurred, the only player on the team that could come close to equaling these is some bad Justice or Jam news.

 

[Rocky Mtn Bob]

NOBODY on this board has been more excited about Julian Sayin than me.

But I'm only slightly surprised.

Y'all repeat it with me. "It's going to be OK."

What BamaMoon posted!

RTR!

 

[johnbt]

Man, we still have 2 1/2 weeks of this crap. These transfer rules are garbage. We might as well be on probation, with all the punches we are being forced to take. If the NCAA really wanted to punish a team for cheating, they would just treat them like a team where the head coach leaves.

I hope every single program taking our players right now gets absolutely gutted when it is their turn.

Kirby & Texas will probably just continue reap all the benefits

They have all the $ and the momentum currently moving forward. Time will only tell if Daboer is more like Saban or more like Billy Napier

 

[KrAzY3]

Fair, but then maybe quit comparing him to the worst coaches we've had in between the Bryant and Saban years.

I'm not trying to do that, but my childhood was legitimately traumatized by some of those guys, heh.

I think DeBoer seems like a very good coach. May be the best Xs and Os guy on the "list" and I think I said that prior to his hiring.

I've seen a few posts lately indicating how much it sucked for Alabama to have top talent but mediocre coaching. My concern lies only in the idea that Alabama might have top coaching but mediocre talent, and if that's actually going to be better or worse.

Selfishly, it felt pretty darn good every year coming in knowing Alabama had what it took to win a championship, and I don't want to lose that feeling. Then again, you don't have to be DuBose or Shula to fall short of those unrealistic heights.