ok, but the context of the response was related to JM having improved his passing as a QB and LSU being an example of that. Running for 150 isn't indicative of improvement in what a QB needs to be able to improve on to perform in a modern pro-spread or pure-spread offense.
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I have no clue who QB1 will be when the season starts but CKD & CRG know AM's upside so if they wanted him, I'm in. We, and the majority of the CFB world, aren't aware of AM's full potential yet. We're gonna hear all manner of player stories, supposed insider reports, unofficial coach's opinions, on and on all the way up to the WKU kick off and maybe beyond. I'm not sure if we'll even know, as fans, before the team travels to Camp Randall. I have to trust in this coaching staff to field the BEST TEAM regardless of any of my preconceived notions and/or expectations. I could usually get a pretty good idea of what was going to happen based on CNS tendencies and habits, but I don't have that tool relative to this new coaching staff so the only option I have at this point is to pick and choose the information I value and go from there. So, I'm in a "Wait n' See" mode until the fall.
Roll Tide!
Not only do none of us know who will win the job but none of us have any say in the matter. But, we have now had 51 pages of people going back and forth about why Jalen Milroe is/is not the starter next year.
Glad we have Grubb and DeBoer. They seem pretty qualified to figure it out.
Glad we have Grubb and DeBoer. They seem pretty qualified to figure it out.
Well, his body didn't get the memo he's supposed to "look" like a first year player out of HS. Just for reference look at a picture of him and then JS (same age) and compare their "bodies." In one pic he was standing beside TS and he made Simpson look like an 8th grader.
But I know we are talking about maturity too. But don't dismiss the fact he was willing to bypass his senior year of HS (the year most kids say is the best year of their lives) in order to jump start his college career.
This not only gives him a huge advantage over everybody else at Bama (in terms of his knowledge of the system) but it also shows a ton of maturity, dedication and willingness to trade stardom (on the HS level) with a willingness to accelerate his career. It's the ultimate example of willing to work now to be better later!
No we don't get a vote, but what's the purpose of TideFans if this ain't it?
And FTR, most aren't saying he can't be the starter, but that he's got a lot of work left to do. Could say the same about TS I guess, except we don't have a full season of tape on him.
Not to criticize Coach Saban buy he didn't want to play a freshman QB. He's gone and we don't know Coach DeBoer's opinion yet...
I don't care if a QB is still 'Wet Behind The Ears', if he's the best QB I would start him. I know about Freshman mistakes, but we had em last year with Milroe...
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I completely agree with your comment. I have my own view on why CNS made the decisions he did and talked up JM. Pure conjecture on my part and is not worth discussion. On the other hand I would appreciate your thoughts on why TS would hang around now. What was he told to enable him to make that decision? is it realistic for him to remain this Springs portal given the QB room with the latest QB transfer in the house. Of course that begs the question of what his his value in the portal in the Spring?
Yes let’s stop stating our options and just state facts. That should reduce the number of pages/topics as well as ad revenue.
Brodie had as much, or more, arm talent than Bama QB in the last 30 years, maybe longer.
He's had 3 years to correct fundamental issues to improve as a QB and what happened at the end of the season? Reducing the playbook and limiting his decision-making. I'm a DeBoer/Grubb fan, but I don't think they can fix that.
Lonergan needs to watch that same crap load of tape. They all need to be prepared.
but conjecture is so much fun! What else are we supposed to do until spring practices start???
there is always basketball. team is playing well
I guess you were as good early on in your working career as you are now but most improve. We will see.
3 years into college isn't "early" in the life cycle of a QB. In fact for a vast, vast majority of them, they are just about at the end of their entire playing career.
Our offense isn't based on a dual-threat QB. It's based on a QB distributing the ball to all the playmakers we recruit. That's why Rees had to make the changes he made, to accomodate what JM could, or more relevant, could not do.
Again, the statement was that JM had progressed in aspects of the passing game. 150 yards rushing and just over 200 in no way is an example of progressing in the passing game
Fantastic arm, frail body. Didn't help that he reportedly avoided the weight room whenever possible.
Different time, different era, different players - but this thread has me remembering some things I heard about the QB room when Franchione was hired. The Zow/Watts thing had been going on for two seasons at that point; Watts had been the starter in 2000 until a season-ending injury sidelined him and Zow played the rest of the way. Zow had been the starter for the back half of the 1998 season and most of the 1999 season. Reportedly, Franchione told Zow "you throw too many interceptions and you won't play in my offense" or something to that effect. Fran liked to sprinkle in option plays and obviously Watts was better-suited for that. Ironically, Watts got hurt if I remember correctly and Zow had to finish out the last few games of 2001 (and played quite well from what I recall).
Not unprecedented for a new coach with a new offense to bench an established starter at QB. That said, I don't think we have a Tyler Watts or a Tua (in the case of Jalen Hurts) sitting in the wings. And Zow had been a good player but never as consistently productive as Milroe was last season (and at no point that I recall had Zow ever been in the Heisman discussion).
So for everyone asserting that a new coach with a new system will be inclined to play guys who are better suited for their offense - you're absolutely right. The difference IMO is that we've got nobody else on the roster with anything even approaching significant playing time and the established starter was very productive last season. These two factors to me constitute the part that would be unprecedented.
I'm not saying he keeps it, but Milroe begins the spring as QB1 and will have to actively demonstrate that he can't get it done in order for someone else to step in. We know what we have in Milroe - IMO we really don't know what we have with the other guys which (to me anyway) gives no room for one of them to suddenly leapfrog an established starter without him actively losing the job. I also suspect this will lead to Milroe, at a minimum, getting the nod for the opener in the fall. I could be wrong, but when it's not truly "live fire" I have a hard time seeing him play so poorly in practice that he never even gets a shot in the fall.
IMO this would be a completely different proposition if we had someone on the roster that had started a few games, or a transfer portal guy who had started elsewhere. The guys behind Milroe are still quite green. Experience has to count for something, especially in the SEC. I don't know if he ends the 2024 season as the starter, but I'll reiterate that I will be completely shocked if he doesn't begin the season that way.
Not unprecedented for a new coach with a new offense to bench an established starter at QB. That said, I don't think we have a Tyler Watts or a Tua (in the case of Jalen Hurts) sitting in the wings. And Zow had been a good player but never as consistently productive as Milroe was last season (and at no point that I recall had Zow ever been in the Heisman discussion).
So for everyone asserting that a new coach with a new system will be inclined to play guys who are better suited for their offense - you're absolutely right. The difference IMO is that we've got nobody else on the roster with anything even approaching significant playing time and the established starter was very productive last season. These two factors to me constitute the part that would be unprecedented.
I'm not saying he keeps it, but Milroe begins the spring as QB1 and will have to actively demonstrate that he can't get it done in order for someone else to step in. We know what we have in Milroe - IMO we really don't know what we have with the other guys which (to me anyway) gives no room for one of them to suddenly leapfrog an established starter without him actively losing the job. I also suspect this will lead to Milroe, at a minimum, getting the nod for the opener in the fall. I could be wrong, but when it's not truly "live fire" I have a hard time seeing him play so poorly in practice that he never even gets a shot in the fall.
IMO this would be a completely different proposition if we had someone on the roster that had started a few games, or a transfer portal guy who had started elsewhere. The guys behind Milroe are still quite green. Experience has to count for something, especially in the SEC. I don't know if he ends the 2024 season as the starter, but I'll reiterate that I will be completely shocked if he doesn't begin the season that way.
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Well I love Brodie Croyle and his entire family but that is incorrect. He had a great arm but had velocity problems in the short game. Love him though.
I think they all got the memo. I'd expect one heck of a competition in the Spring.
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