Trump deeds and misdeeds VI

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Actually, you said that BOTH are terrible. Biden has his faults, sure, but it's kinda hard to argue that he's as bad as Trump.

Not that that will stop some people.
I did say both were terrible. It sounds like you want me to provide some terribleness rating for each. SMH.
 

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I did say both were terrible. It sounds like you want me to provide some terribleness rating for each. SMH.
Not good enough, mate. Like Dubya said, "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists." In all seriousness, ever since this moronic phrase crossed his lips, it seems to have turned into a mind virus that has infected damn near everybody. So yeah, centrists who hate both are still the "bad guys" in American discourse with both the left and right. Sometimes I suspect we're hated more than the "other side." I know I catch a metric crap-ton of criticism from family and friends anytime I mention that I no longer vote.
 
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Not good enough, mate. Like Dubya said, "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists." In all seriousness, ever since this moronic phrase crossed his lips, it seems to have turned into a mind virus that has infected damn near everybody. So yeah, centrists who hate both are still the "bad guys" in American discourse with both the left and right. Sometimes I suspect we're hated more than the "other side." I know I catch a metric crap-ton of criticism from family and friends anytime I mention that I no longer vote.
There's a facebook page called Vote Nobody that's pretty funny.

I vote third party for President. I'll continue to do so until there is a mainline candidate that I can vote for.
 

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  • The New York Attorney General’s office asked a judge to void a $175 million bond posted by former President Donald Trump to secure a much larger monetary damage award in his civil business fraud case.
  • The AG’s office in a court filing said that Trump and other defendants in the case had failed to show there is enough identifiable collateral to back the bond.
 

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Not good enough, mate. Like Dubya said, "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists." In all seriousness, ever since this moronic phrase crossed his lips, it seems to have turned into a mind virus that has infected damn near everybody. So yeah, centrists who hate both are still the "bad guys" in American discourse with both the left and right. Sometimes I suspect we're hated more than the "other side." I know I catch a metric crap-ton of criticism from family and friends anytime I mention that I no longer vote.
I try to remind people there are usually 10-30 offices/amendments being voted on every major election cycle. Those down ballot folks (local house, sheriff, soil conservation, labor secretary) are often more than willing to meet and talk to you at events and even in their offices/campaign offices. We as citizens all should get to know who they are because they're the ones who often impact our lives more than the President or Governors. I get being turned off by the Presidential races as they become so politicized and separated from the actual policies they should be talking about until they often turn folks off (which is somewhat the plan in someways). Certainly there's at least one office and one candidate you can find worth voting for in every election.
 

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I try to remind people there are usually 10-30 offices/amendments being voted on every major election cycle. Those down ballot folks (local house, sheriff, soil conservation, labor secretary) are often more than willing to meet and talk to you at events and even in their offices/campaign offices. We as citizens all should get to know who they are because they're the ones who often impact our lives more than the President or Governors. I get being turned off by the Presidential races as they become so politicized and separated from the actual policies they should be talking about until they often turn folks off (which is somewhat the plan in someways). Certainly there's at least one office and one candidate you can find worth voting for in every election.
Don’t get me wrong, local elections are an entirely different animal. Amendments absolutely should be considered and voted on. I’ll even go so far as to vote in all state elections, but other than that is a nope. The outcomes have little to no credibility which is why I went from voting strictly third-party to not bothering. My third-party vote was a middle finger to the establishment, but now that I know they could care less, the message is lost.
 

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This article highlights the problem within the Republican Party. Tom Cole (R-OK) thinks Trump is speaking in hyperbole when he talks of being dictator for a day not concerned about Trump's true intentions. But then follows that up, the same interview, with Trump is trying to test the bounds of his authority as prior Presidents did.

There are still a too many legislators and citizens who view Trump through a traditional lens of politics.

How the Republicans Embraced the Chaos
 

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Donald Trump’s company behind his Truth Social platform features “diversity and inclusion” policies, while the former president vows to eliminate them across the land if re-elected.

Trump, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, has criticized DEI policies as “un-American” for years. But the language in the Trump Media & Technology Group was adopted on March 25, 2024, according to company documents on its website. That was the day before the company went public following a merger with a shell company. Its stock has plummeted repeatedly in the weeks since.

The anti-Trump group MeidasTouch reported its DEI discovery on Tuesday while highlighting Trump’s numerous attacks on such initiatives.

Under Trump Media’s “Corporate Governance Guidelines,” a section headlined in bold “Commitment to Diversity and Inclusion” displays terminology you won’t find the criminally indicted candidate using on the campaign trail.

“The Board is committed to creating and maintaining a culture of diversity and inclusion,” the document reads. “The Company will be better able to grow and improve with a diverse Board, management, and team of employees. Such commitment is and will be a factor in identifying and nominating director candidates.”

The pledge “encourages management to embrace the unique contributions an employee or candidate can bring to the Company and its culture in terms of their education, opinions, culture, ethnicity, race, sex, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, nationality, color, religion, veteran’s status, disability and other life experience.”
Again, Benedict and Co are full of it.
 

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Both candidates are “terrible”…

my Trumper brother-in-law recenttly got a speeding ticket. He said the experience was downright terrible.
A week later he wrecked his car and learned what terrible actually looks like.

if Biden is terrible I would say Trump is catastrophic. Saying both are terrible is weak tea.
 

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No just trying to get a clearer understanding of your viewpoint. Do you think one candidate is preferable over the other? Why or why not?
I think he said neither candidate is acceptable to him and he will find a third party candidate to vote for. Because both Biden and Trump are terrible.

I’ve voted against Trump every chance I’ve had and I’m damn glad I have. I will always be proud of that.
 

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Both candidates are “terrible”…

my Trumper brother-in-law recenttly got a speeding ticket. He said the experience was downright terrible.
A week later he wrecked his car and learned what terrible actually looks like.

if Biden is terrible I would say Trump is catastrophic. Saying both are terrible is weak tea.
One candidate does things you don't like, is weak in areas you want strength like the border or Israel, likes taxes you hate, doesn't project the strength you want when speaking or decisions, is slow and cautious to fix the broken economy suffering from high inflation, is accused repeatedly of getting foreign money through corruption but is shown no such thing happened. The other stokes mobs to attack the capital because he cannot stand to lose, is feckless in the middle of a pandemic and chooses to ignore it rather than contain it before it's far too late causing a complete shutdown of the country and economy, pushes hard for a vaccine only to secretly take the vaccine and push against that same vaccine when it comes out, says he won't take a tax cut then taxes a massive tax cut for himself, takes money from foreign investors for his properties even when in office, etc.

Are both really terrible, or is an actual comparison just too depressing that you'll have to support the guy you don't WANT to choose?
 

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I guess it’s fitting that the first witness called in Trump’s Stormy Daniel’s trial is named Pecker.
I wonder if people give him a hard time about his name.

Stormy’s testimony has the potential to be special. There’s no telling what she might say, or Trump in response.

I also wonder if Bill Clinton feels a little vindicated somehow.
 

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