Bama Game Thread: Official Postgame Thread - Bama @ Vandy...

[KrAzY3]

This is correct. What it does do is eliminate us if we have 3 losses, and I do think the #12 team will have 3 losses.

There are 5 automatic bids that make teams outside the top 10 kind of irrelevant, this includes the ACC, Big 12 and spot to the weakling conferences because that's how playoffs tend to work. So, there's a very real possibility that you have to finish top 9 to make it into the playoff and probably at least 10.

If you look at last year as an example, only three teams make it in with two losses under that scenario, that would be Missouri, Oregon, and Penn State.

Ole Miss and Oklahoma are both left out with 2 losses. So, Alabama could get in with two losses, but it's far from a sure thing and we'd need to cheer for Vanderbilt from here on out to try to up that SoS in order to improve that possibility.

 

[gtgilbert]

At what point do we wonder the same about the run game on O? ... much more difficult to dominate/exert your will without it

Yep. The run scheme wasn't that impactful against an overmatched DL from Vandy.

 

[gtgilbert]

Right. Put down the beer and take a step off the cliff. It's gonna be okay.

what other top 10 team with playoff aspirations has a loss to a team in the realm of Vandy?

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

A pick 6, a fumble and another penalty for passing the ball when he was beyond the line. Which negated a first down. Take those three away and we most likely win even with the defense stinking it up.

Only one of those was really his fault (the illegal forward pass). Unfortunately it’s not the first time he’s done that…

 

[merino]

In the last 6 quarters we have given up 67 points and only forced 3 punts on 15 possessions. And; 4 of those quarters were against VANDY.
That's a problem

Agree 6 quarters of flagrant incompetency

 

[colbysullivan]

what other top 10 team with playoff aspirations has a loss to a team in the realm of Vandy?

I’d rather be us than Mizzou right now.

 

[bamafaninbham]

I am not making excuses but I really want an answer. I know we will never get one from the SEC.
How in the world was it not targeting when not one but two DBs crushed our WR"s head. Dude was out on his feet, dropped the ball and then dropped to the ground, out like a light. The idiot replay official says it's not. The mere fact the poor guy was knocked out immediately when the hits happened are all you need to know this was forcible contact to the head/neck(times 2 in this case). I hate SEC officials. But then our defensive players hand hits their QB helmet and personal foul. I realize it is letter of the law, but it's the dumbest rule in football. QB is wearing a helmet like the rest of the players for protection. A slap of a hand to helmet will produce no injury. Rule needs to go. Or put the QB in an evening dress and put flag football flags on him.

 

[bvandegraff]

I had a bad read on Pavia. We should have gone for him this offseason. He’s good.

Gotta give it up for Pavia - from out here in NM, not a hotbed of D1 FB talent. Undersized, unrecruited, but tough and smart and now has both Bama’s and Auburn’s scalps on his belt.

 

[bvandegraff]

Worst defensive gameplan I’ve seen since DuBose was on the sideline. What an absolute humiliation. Wommack should demote himself after that train wreck.

He and the defensive players should be walking home.

 

[gtgilbert]

Only one of those was really his fault (the illegal forward pass). Unfortunately it’s not the first time he’s done that…

getting sacked wasn't his fault at all. That's on Pritchett, but not holding onto the ball is on JM - that pressure was coming right up into his face and he has to see that and at least secure the ball. The INT wasn't a great pass either. Again, not anywhere close to 100% his fault, but putting that pass where it should be makes it less likely the WR doesn't secure the pass and the ball ending up batted up in the air.

 

[bamafaninbham]

Guess we are not gonna get any "goose poop through a tin horn" statement from coach...........

 

[bamafaninbham]

getting sacked wasn't his fault at all. That's on Pritchett, but not holding onto the ball is on JM - that pressure was coming right up into his face and he has to see that and at least secure the ball. The INT wasn't a great pass either. Again, not anywhere close to 100% his fault, but putting that pass where it should be makes it less likely the WR doesn't secure the pass and the ball ending up batted up in the air.

On replay, Milroe was looking left the whole time. I hate penalties, but if you are a tackle and you get beat like a mule, it's better to grab the DL than let your QB get decleated.

 

[bamafaninbham]

Today sucked and I hate the feeling I have in the pit of my stomach. But I take solace in the fact that it could have been worse. I could have been born into a family of barners. I will suffer for a few days, but that beats suffering for the entirety of my 54 years on this planet if I was a barn fan.

 

[gtgilbert]

I am not making excuses but I really want an answer. I know we will never get one from the SEC.
How in the world was it not targeting when not one but two DBs crushed our WR"s head. Dude was out on his feet, dropped the ball and then dropped to the ground, out like a light. The idiot replay official says it's not. The mere fact the poor guy was knocked out immediately when the hits happened are all you need to know this was forcible contact to the head/neck(times 2 in this case). I hate SEC officials. But then our defensive players hand hits their QB helmet and personal foul. I realize it is letter of the law, but it's the dumbest rule in football. QB is wearing a helmet like the rest of the players for protection. A slap of a hand to helmet will produce no injury. Rule needs to go. Or put the QB in an evening dress and put flag football flags on him.

Both calls were actually correct as the rules are written. While generally I think SEC refs have a lot of room to improve, these calls were not examples of that.

targeting is to a defenseless player, OR with the crown of the helmet. When an O player lowers his head into a hit, he's pretty much never going to get that call. Maybe that's not what it should be, but that's what the NCAA rulebook says.

QB roughing, like it or not, is any forcible contact above the shoulders after the pass is released. Again, not that I love the way it's written, but that is what it is right now.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Agreed, because Alabama was. With this year's Milroe, Alabama goes undefeated and wins it all last year. Sadly, Milroe and the entire offense took a huge step forward while the defense left town on the portal express.

I was just coming here to say the same.

The Jalen of the last 2 weeks leads last years team to 15-0

That is my main positive right now.

His passing has been phenomenal the last 2 games.

But even with his impressive performances we won’t get far this year if this defense doesn’t improve in a hurry.

 

[thingamajimbeux]

Yeah but man c’mon he also made a lot of positive big plays.

The defense did absolutely nothing…. Absolutely zero resistance to what Vandy was doing to them.

This loss is on that abysmal defensive performance.

There are people out there that will **** on Jalen no matter what .

I like Jalen, but I have some concerns about him.

Today's loss is not on Jalen. A defense that only forced VANDERBILT to punt only twice in a game is solely responsible.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I just read that Pavia’s completion rate (80%) was the highest against Alabama since…..

….Stephen Garcia in 2010 (85%).

I wonder what the comparison is on how many holding calls they had?

 

[gtgilbert]

On replay, Milroe was looking left the whole time. I hate penalties, but if you are a tackle and you get beat like a mule, it's better to grab the DL than let your QB get decleated.

agreed. Would have been way better for Pritchett to just tackle the dude, but even if the read is to the left, a QB needs to be able to feel that kinda pressure and just eat the sack. I don't think JM could have avoided that in any way at all, just that with the pressure coming front side should have been able to at least avoid losing the ball.

 

[russtang]

On replay, Milroe was looking left the whole time. I hate penalties, but if you are a tackle and you get beat like a mule, it's better to grab the DL than let your QB get decleated.

I was just fixing to post that. He was looking left before the snap and didn't stop until he got hit. I think the RT slipped on that play. Can't remember for sure.

 

[bamafaninbham]

There was a ton of Bama player slipping today.