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tusks_n_raider

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He will probably do very well in the combine in relation to speed and strength etc. He's always kept his nose clean and he's not a head case. NFL teams like that so I'm sure someone will think they can develop him. With that said, he certainly cannot read the field process the defense quickly. He might be a third rounder.
He's absolutely a head case.

He completely melts down under pressure.

An NFL GM would be insane to draft him earlier than the 4th-5th rounds.

He should honestly be no more than an UDFA

Blake Sims and Coker were both UDFA and were both 10xs the QB as Milroe.
 

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The real disappointment to me, and I may be the only one who feels this way, is what has happened in just this one season our standing on the all time wins list. Also, the all time winning percentage list.

I can recall how we were 3rd on both lists at the end of the Gene Stallings era, trailing only Michigan and Notre Dame. Michigan was #1 on the wins list, and ND was #1 on the percentage list. Then I watched how Texas, Nebraska, Penn State, Ohio State, and Oklahoma passed us by until Nick Saban arrived.

Heading into this bowl season, we were solidly 2nd on the winning percentage list, and tied at 2nd on the all time wins list with Ohio State. Well of course, Ohio State has passed us on the wins list. Things certainly do not look as promising for our medium term future as they did a year ago.
 

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The coaching staff see the backups in practice every day. I think folks are underestimating the idea that we might just not have a decent QB on the roster.
The only problem is that they see Milroe everyday and every game while Bama's number 3 is playing successfully at Pittsburg. The only reason another QB did not start or play is LANK. Obviously my opinion.
 

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Germie Bernard is a star, I hope he comes back. I love this kid. You could see the frustration though late in the game.
Yeah both he and Law were my favorite WRs this year.

I have an affinity for the WR group every year and watch them more closely than any other position group.

Germie is a fantastic route runner and has great hands.

Law did a lot of unnoticed dirty work and was a physical blocker and if a QB could get him the ball he's dangerous in space.

RW is one of the most naturally gifted WRs I've ever seen but he's needs to try and connect with Smitty for help on how to be more physical with a small frame.
 

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Jan 1st and Dec 31st have… If we had a quarterback that could hit a slant then we are 2-0 vs Michigan
I wish the guy was just ineffective. We could probably have survived that. But he went waaaay beyond ineffective and put us in a hole with keystone kop buffoonery that Tua would have had a hard time digging out of. Just like he did against Texas and Oklahoma, and to a lesser extent against Michigan 1.0, Vandy, and Tennessee.
 

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People have been saying this for awhile...........maybe Byrne needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with DeBoer and show him the way
I don't know if Byrne is the guy to do that, he was gullible enough to hire debore, maybe it should come from higher up for both of them.
 

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Sheridan might end up being a bust, but I just can't judge him yet until he has a QB who is more capable of doing more things.
I do want to belabor a point. I believe in second chances, somewhat. Sark and Kiffin initially failed as head coaches then ended up at Alabama as OCs and were successful (though neither actually failed as an OC).

Sheridan has already been a bust once. He was a failure as OC at Indiana and was fired. He was only an OC at Alabama as a plan B. So, I'm coming at it from the other direction in that I'm waiting to see if he's turned things around and so far it doesn't look great. Having one of the worst offenses in all of college football is not a great thing to have on your resume, and Sheridan has that.

So, my concern is that DeBoer out of nothing but blind loyalty will keep him around, even though there's no reason at all to believe he is the guy at coordinator to get the job done, and then if it turns out the QB isn't the only issue, what then? Another wasted season.

I'd much rather see someone that is proven as coordinator and I don't see a team so well coached that a shake-up of coaches isn't in order, but DeBoer thus far seems like he might not be the firing type, we'll see...
 

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I appreciate the explanation.

To make it clear though, I'm not trying to say it's not Milroe's fault at all. I'm just saying I don't like the playcalling either.

Basically, if it ain't working then you shouldn't keep doing it. Even if they just mixed in more designed runs, or heck more plays like that reverse, etc... I think it could have made a big difference both by mitigating risk (runs for 0 yards early in the Michigan game would have been better than what actually happened) and balancing the offense more.

I just know you can't hand the ball off 12 times in a game like this (with the QB struggling) and think you as an offensive coordinator did your job correctly.
Right. You don't establish a run game with rpo's when your QB is bad with quick decisions. You need to run straight run plays that are designed and blocked as run plays. Don't give the QB an option.
But then you need your QB to set/adjust blocking for the run...
 
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I do want to belabor a point. I believe in second chances, somewhat. Sark and Kiffin initially failed as head coaches then ended up at Alabama as OCs and were successful (though neither actually failed as an OC).

Sheridan has already been a bust once. He was a failure as OC at Indiana and was fired. He was only an OC at Alabama as a plan B. So, I'm coming at it from the other direction in that I'm waiting to see if he's turned things around and so far it doesn't look great. Having one of the worst offenses in all of college football is not a great thing to have on your resume, and Sheridan has that.

So, my concern is that DeBoer out of nothing but blind loyalty will keep him around, even though there's no reason at all to believe he is the guy at coordinator to get the job done, and then if it turns out the QB isn't the only issue, what then? Another wasted season.

I'd much rather see someone that is proven as coordinator and I don't see a team so well coached that a shake-up at coaches isn't in order, but DeBoer thus far seems like he might not be the firing type, we'll see...
I get it, but we have to have someone at QB who can run a capable offense before we can evaluate anything this season. Read Jess's write up on this game and season about how they had to cobble together 'stuff' to try to create an offense JM could kinda run. Literally almost everything they would want to do are things that JM can't, and JM doesn't do enough other stuff well enough for it to be a cohesive offensive approach.
 
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I do want to belabor a point. I believe in second chances, somewhat. Sark and Kiffin initially failed as head coaches then ended up at Alabama as OCs and were successful (though neither actually failed as an OC).

Sheridan has already been a bust once. He was a failure as OC at Indiana and was fired. He was only an OC at Alabama as a plan B. So, I'm coming at it from the other direction in that I'm waiting to see if he's turned things around and so far it doesn't look great. Having one of the worst offenses in all of college football is not a great thing to have on your resume, and Sheridan has that.

So, my concern is that DeBoer out of nothing but blind loyalty will keep him around, even though there's no reason at all to believe he is the guy at coordinator to get the job done, and then if it turns out the QB isn't the only issue, what then? Another wasted season.

I'd much rather see someone that is proven as coordinator and I don't see a team so well coached that a shake-up of coaches isn't in order, but DeBoer thus far seems like he might not be the firing type, we'll see...
the pressure is going to be immense to make changes. Despite issue with QB and OL ... coaching staff did not adjust well.

See how Michigan played .. credit to their coaches to adjust to their shortcomings. Looked like we were attempting things we had failed consistently at without adjustments
 
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I do want to belabor a point. I believe in second chances, somewhat. Sark and Kiffin initially failed as head coaches then ended up at Alabama as OCs and were successful (though neither actually failed as an OC).

Sheridan has already been a bust once. He was a failure as OC at Indiana and was fired. He was only an OC at Alabama as a plan B. So, I'm coming at it from the other direction in that I'm waiting to see if he's turned things around and so far it doesn't look great. Having one of the worst offenses in all of college football is not a great thing to have on your resume, and Sheridan has that.

So, my concern is that DeBoer out of nothing but blind loyalty will keep him around, even though there's no reason at all to believe he is the guy at coordinator to get the job done, and then if it turns out the QB isn't the only issue, what then? Another wasted season.

I'd much rather see someone that is proven as coordinator and I don't see a team so well coached that a shake-up of coaches isn't in order, but DeBoer thus far seems like he might not be the firing type, we'll see...
Im reminded by the age old NFL proverb that goes like this “Everyone with Tom Brady as a quarterback is the greatest Offensive coordinator imaginable and everyone with Jamarcus Russell is the worst in the world, and everyone else is a nameless guy”. The point is sometimes you are a victim of your roster
 

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