but think of all of the money we can save by not putting 5g chips in vaccines
RFK, Jr.: Anti-vax HHS Secretary
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This is by design. They don't want people who understand vaccine data making the decisions. They want to rely on FB science and TikTok studies. Conservatives are still so butt hurt over the COVID vaccine, but why turn that into an attack on all vaccines? I don't even care to argue about the COVID vaccine anymore. You hate it, then fine, but they want to get rid of all vaccines now. Conservative brains make no sense to me. They'll believe any theory they see on FB, even if there is no factual data to back it up, while discounting real science with decades of data. This fight against vaccines since COVID is one of the dumbest things I've seen from conservatives in my lifetime.
Washington Post gift link
CDC panel targets flu shot ingredient blasted by anti-vaccine activists
The effective removal of thimerosal from influenza vaccines would have limited impact, but it illustrates how the anti-vaccine movement is achieving its goals.
CDC panel targets flu shot ingredient blasted by anti-vaccine activists
The effective removal of thimerosal from influenza vaccines would have limited impact, but it illustrates how the anti-vaccine movement is achieving its goals.
In some cases, but even then, it's not dangerous:Is thimerosal even still used?
Thimerosal in Flu Vaccine
Thimerosal is an ethyl mercury-based preservative used in vials that contain more than one dose of a
www.cdc.gov
I know it was removed from contact lens solutions awhile ago.In some cases, but even then, it's not dangerous:
.Thimerosal in Flu Vaccine
Thimerosal is an ethyl mercury-based preservative used in vials that contain more than one dose of a
RFK Jr. Thrilled To Give Millions Of Children Opportunity To Die Of Ebola, Cholera And More!
He is withdrawing the US's pledge to fund an international vaccine agency.
www.wonkette.com
FOX: On the issue of fluoride, what has been the response from dentists who may be concerned that some children in lower incomes may not get preventative care?
RFK JR: It is an issue. It's a balance. You're gonna see probably slightly more cavities.
Don’t you love having a HHS secretary enacting policies to make our children less healthy. Conservatives talk about protecting the children but their actions don’t.
Oh for the days of Michelle Obama, and her campaign to make kid's diets more health, and all the "Nanny State" pearl-clutching that ensued.
Yet it's ok for a freakish black sheep of the Kennedy clan with a flesh-eating worm just removed from his rain - to make decisions on food.
I've recently had two of my wife's coworkers waver on vaccinating their children. Entirely. As in no vaccines period. They are obsessed with the risks. They are also healthcare workers who work with sick children every single day.
I sent both of them a review published by a team of epidemiologists looking at the neurotoxicity (specifically the risk of autism) of the MMR vaccine. 20 papers from multiple research groups around the world with research windows from the 1980s to current data. 10 million children reviewed. They also reviewed 4 metaanalyses along with the primary research papers.
Both responded "Well, I'm doing my own research..." That is they see memes on social media that are simply falsified and believe everything the see in a most credulous manner.
And this just the tip of the mountain of data available on vaccines showing they are overall very safe interventions with a tremendously positive risk benefit ratio. Particularly the core childhood vaccines and the hepatitis vaccines. I have a patient who survived lymphoma a few years ago who had polio in the 50s. She'd like to show all of these people the withered and nonfunctional arm she has lived with all of her life from her brush with polio. Having four kids, I realize the concerns and the guilt that come up here, but the current situation is just disturbing. I also acknowledge that vaccines can occasionally cause injury like every other medical intervention, but the risks are quite low compared to the alternative. Don't look at death as the only bad outcome, measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and the other preventable infections all have a risk of potentially life altering damage that is typically far greater than the mortality they would cause with modern medical care.
I am a bit biased, because I know vaccines are tremendously helpful and I have a history working on therapeutic melanoma vaccines back in my early days. If interested, the article I mention is listed below. The papers are all linked to Pubmed if you wish to get deep into the weeds and review the primary sources.
A Comprehensive Review of the MMR Vaccine Studies: Many Years and Millions of People Reveal NO Link to Autism
Time to Move Forward: What Decades of Consistent Evidence Should Tell Us
theunbiasedscipod.substack.com
just damn.I've recently had two of my wife's coworkers waver on vaccinating their children. Entirely. As in no vaccines period. They are obsessed with the risks. They are also healthcare workers who work with sick children every single day.
I sent both of them a review published by a team of epidemiologists looking at the neurotoxicity (specifically the risk of autism) of the MMR vaccine. 20 papers from multiple research groups around the world with research windows from the 1980s to current data. 10 million children reviewed. They also reviewed 4 metaanalyses along with the primary research papers.
Both responded "Well, I'm doing my own research..." That is they see memes on social media that are simply falsified and believe everything the see in a most credulous manner.
And this just the tip of the mountain of data available on vaccines showing they are overall very safe interventions with a tremendously positive risk benefit ratio. Particularly the core childhood vaccines and the hepatitis vaccines. I have a patient who survived lymphoma a few years ago who had polio in the 50s. She'd like to show all of these people the withered and nonfunctional arm she has lived with all of her life from her brush with polio. Having four kids, I realize the concerns and the guilt that come up here, but the current situation is just disturbing. I also acknowledge that vaccines can occasionally cause injury like every other medical intervention, but the risks are quite low compared to the alternative. Don't look at death as the only bad outcome, measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and the other preventable infections all have a risk of potentially life altering damage that is typically far greater than the mortality they would cause with modern medical care.
I am a bit biased, because I know vaccines are tremendously helpful and I have a history working on therapeutic melanoma vaccines back in my early days. If interested, the article I mention is listed below. The papers are all linked to Pubmed if you wish to get deep into the weeds and review the primary sources.
A Comprehensive Review of the MMR Vaccine Studies: Many Years and Millions of People Reveal NO Link to Autism
Time to Move Forward: What Decades of Consistent Evidence Should Tell Us
You know the old saying that a lie can race around the world while the truth is still in the starting blocks...I've recently had two of my wife's coworkers waver on vaccinating their children. Entirely. As in no vaccines period. They are obsessed with the risks. They are also healthcare workers who work with sick children every single day.
I sent both of them a review published by a team of epidemiologists looking at the neurotoxicity (specifically the risk of autism) of the MMR vaccine. 20 papers from multiple research groups around the world with research windows from the 1980s to current data. 10 million children reviewed. They also reviewed 4 metaanalyses along with the primary research papers.
Both responded "Well, I'm doing my own research..." That is they see memes on social media that are simply falsified and believe everything the see in a most credulous manner.
And this just the tip of the mountain of data available on vaccines showing they are overall very safe interventions with a tremendously positive risk benefit ratio. Particularly the core childhood vaccines and the hepatitis vaccines. I have a patient who survived lymphoma a few years ago who had polio in the 50s. She'd like to show all of these people the withered and nonfunctional arm she has lived with all of her life from her brush with polio. Having four kids, I realize the concerns and the guilt that come up here, but the current situation is just disturbing. I also acknowledge that vaccines can occasionally cause injury like every other medical intervention, but the risks are quite low compared to the alternative. Don't look at death as the only bad outcome, measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and the other preventable infections all have a risk of potentially life altering damage that is typically far greater than the mortality they would cause with modern medical care.
I am a bit biased, because I know vaccines are tremendously helpful and I have a history working on therapeutic melanoma vaccines back in my early days. If interested, the article I mention is listed below. The papers are all linked to Pubmed if you wish to get deep into the weeds and review the primary sources.
A Comprehensive Review of the MMR Vaccine Studies: Many Years and Millions of People Reveal NO Link to Autism
Time to Move Forward: What Decades of Consistent Evidence Should Tell Us
I'm with you on all the core childhood vaccines. I do think there is an environmental cause of much of the autism we are seeing, but I see no evidence it's vaccines causing it.I've recently had two of my wife's coworkers waver on vaccinating their children. Entirely. As in no vaccines period. They are obsessed with the risks. They are also healthcare workers who work with sick children every single day.
I sent both of them a review published by a team of epidemiologists looking at the neurotoxicity (specifically the risk of autism) of the MMR vaccine. 20 papers from multiple research groups around the world with research windows from the 1980s to current data. 10 million children reviewed. They also reviewed 4 metaanalyses along with the primary research papers.
Both responded "Well, I'm doing my own research..." That is they see memes on social media that are simply falsified and believe everything the see in a most credulous manner.
And this just the tip of the mountain of data available on vaccines showing they are overall very safe interventions with a tremendously positive risk benefit ratio. Particularly the core childhood vaccines and the hepatitis vaccines. I have a patient who survived lymphoma a few years ago who had polio in the 50s. She'd like to show all of these people the withered and nonfunctional arm she has lived with all of her life from her brush with polio. Having four kids, I realize the concerns and the guilt that come up here, but the current situation is just disturbing. I also acknowledge that vaccines can occasionally cause injury like every other medical intervention, but the risks are quite low compared to the alternative. Don't look at death as the only bad outcome, measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and the other preventable infections all have a risk of potentially life altering damage that is typically far greater than the mortality they would cause with modern medical care.
I am a bit biased, because I know vaccines are tremendously helpful and I have a history working on therapeutic melanoma vaccines back in my early days. If interested, the article I mention is listed below. The papers are all linked to Pubmed if you wish to get deep into the weeds and review the primary sources.
A Comprehensive Review of the MMR Vaccine Studies: Many Years and Millions of People Reveal NO Link to Autism
Time to Move Forward: What Decades of Consistent Evidence Should Tell Us
Do my own research means “watch a YouTube video or read an article that gives me the conclusion I already have.”I've recently had two of my wife's coworkers waver on vaccinating their children. Entirely. As in no vaccines period. They are obsessed with the risks. They are also healthcare workers who work with sick children every single day.
I sent both of them a review published by a team of epidemiologists looking at the neurotoxicity (specifically the risk of autism) of the MMR vaccine. 20 papers from multiple research groups around the world with research windows from the 1980s to current data. 10 million children reviewed. They also reviewed 4 metaanalyses along with the primary research papers.
Both responded "Well, I'm doing my own research..." That is they see memes on social media that are simply falsified and believe everything the see in a most credulous manner.
And this just the tip of the mountain of data available on vaccines showing they are overall very safe interventions with a tremendously positive risk benefit ratio. Particularly the core childhood vaccines and the hepatitis vaccines. I have a patient who survived lymphoma a few years ago who had polio in the 50s. She'd like to show all of these people the withered and nonfunctional arm she has lived with all of her life from her brush with polio. Having four kids, I realize the concerns and the guilt that come up here, but the current situation is just disturbing. I also acknowledge that vaccines can occasionally cause injury like every other medical intervention, but the risks are quite low compared to the alternative. Don't look at death as the only bad outcome, measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and the other preventable infections all have a risk of potentially life altering damage that is typically far greater than the mortality they would cause with modern medical care.
I am a bit biased, because I know vaccines are tremendously helpful and I have a history working on therapeutic melanoma vaccines back in my early days. If interested, the article I mention is listed below. The papers are all linked to Pubmed if you wish to get deep into the weeds and review the primary sources.
A Comprehensive Review of the MMR Vaccine Studies: Many Years and Millions of People Reveal NO Link to Autism
Time to Move Forward: What Decades of Consistent Evidence Should Tell Us
Years ago my dad got all in with that quack doctor Joel Wallach, whose tape “Dead Doctos Don’t Lie” made the rounds in Amway and evangelicalism (if you’ll pardon the redundancy) in the late 90s. An arrogant snit who played into the whole “doctors want you to get sick and be sick so they can continue to buy a newer Mercedes”. What has always amused me is that everyone that takes a contrary to medicine path always assumes that the people selling those books and those supplements don’t have a profit motive, but big Pharma does, so they can trust this nice person who just happens to be the one selling them the vitamins or minerals or supplements or whatever. They can always find an “old study” and present it as the 11th commandment and never be bothered by whether any research in the 70 years since then his contradicted the claim or that it even means what is being alleged.
I generally agree - those who "do their own research" often seek out people who support their views.
That said, we need to be careful that we do not use this idea to thwart those who would seek experts who have differing views from the mainstream. We WANT an educated populace who who are not spoon-fed information or ideologies from the mainstream feeding troughs.
It's easy to dismiss the fringe people who have no education, but the highly educated spent decades telling us certain foods were unhealthy or bad for us and have backtracked over the last decade. And this will continue. So balancing the extremists from those who understand that 'bacon doesn't increase your bad cholesterol' isn't easy - our knowledge is constantly changing...
I don't disagree with this.
But you can always tell, too.
The people who have done the legwork, who HAVE legitimately questioned the declarations - they don't ever announce their intelligence for the rest of us, their contrarian assertions generally a starting point rather than a conclusion.
Plus - within science there is ALWAYS that healthy skepticism that wonders - and tests - "hey, how do we really know E=mc2?" I'm all for that. But most of the contrary assertions START with the conclusion of "I think this vaccine is bad, therefore, let me show you this video and call it doing research."
Yes, I concur there is that every once in awhile. But it should also be noted that in most of those cases, it's someone who does possess some level of expertise in their research area, too.
Yes... That is a very big tell. Has that contrarian actually worked in the field and done the research? Have they run clinical trials with hundred to thousands of participants? Have they sequenced hundred of genomes and carefully parsed the data?
If they haven't done the work... The basis for their contrarian views is much more suspect. There are reams of research on so many topics, cherry picking a few studies requires one to go back and reevaluate the possibilities. And most don't do that.
I think that is reasonable... But with social media and so many making so many claims, those same claims have to be reviewed carefully. And then as per my other post, you have to do the work to show that they are true. Plus, the old adage about a stopped clock being right twice a day applies... With numerous claims some are going to back into correct position.
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