The Decline of the DNC III

[CrimsonJazz]

BREAKING: Democrat Rep. Lateefah Simon goes HAYWIRE on Republicans for invoking the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, shouts and demands they NEVER invoke him again.

"4 out of the 5 of you last year posted on your social media the words of Dr. King...I would ask you, you KEEP Dr. King's name OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!"

"If you, like me and the many scholars who will be watching, studied King, you know that he and the mothers and the fathers of the civil rights movement, of the movement for emancipation, not only would be struck by the conversations in this room, but would be shattered by the consequence of lies, of hatred, of abuse of this administration in the name of folks who worked to make this country more free."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937962346569183290

The only thing worse than stupidity is LOUD stupidity.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Jamaal Bowman says that "the stress of being called the N-word" is why blacks suffer from obesity, cancer, etc

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1938079038808981932

 

[crimsonaudio]

The only thing worse than stupidity is LOUD stupidity.

And there's so much loud stupidity nowadays...

 

[selmaborntidefan]

BREAKING: Democrat Rep. Lateefah Simon goes HAYWIRE on Republicans for invoking the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, shouts and demands they NEVER invoke him again.

"4 out of the 5 of you last year posted on your social media the words of Dr. King...I would ask you, you KEEP Dr. King's name OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!"

So from "say the name" to "don't say the name."
Got it.

Having said my cynical piece, the notion that most (probably all) of the modern Republicans who quote King would actually like him if he was an actively involved civil rights advocate today is laughable. Besides, my first inclination given his demonstrable history of plagiarism is to ask whom I should actually be citing for anything King ever wrote or said anyway.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Jamaal Bowman says that "the stress of being called the N-word" is why blacks suffer from obesity, cancer, etc

Bowman sounds the alarm!! (What, too soon?)

Bowman is correct that blacks DO have a higher rate of a lot of things that IS borne of being on the receiving end of prejudice. If THAT is what he means, I can get on board with it, I think he's using the shock value word to get attention and succeeding.

But he isn't wrong, either, in the abstract. There's no doubt a ton of it IS related to unique stressors or lack of access to quality health care. There's also - and I don't mean in any way to sound mean about this - suspicion on the part of many blacks about health care because of things like the Tuskegee experiments (and seriously - who can blame them?). Can anyone blame a black person today who fears vaccination because an ancestor was given syphilis by the government? It's not all that different than how some Jews feared anything that smacks of "branding."

Admitting reality doesn't necessitate being "woke" or whatever.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Bowman sounds the alarm!! (What, too soon?)

Bowman is correct that blacks DO have a higher rate of a lot of things that IS borne of being on the receiving end of prejudice. If THAT is what he means, I can get on board with it, I think he's using the shock value word to get attention and succeeding.

But he isn't wrong, either, in the abstract. There's no doubt a ton of it IS related to unique stressors or lack of access to quality health care. There's also - and I don't mean in any way to sound mean about this - suspicion on the part of many blacks about health care because of things like the Tuskegee experiments (and seriously - who can blame them?). Can anyone blame a black person today who fears vaccination because an ancestor was given syphilis by the government? It's not all that different than how some Jews feared anything that smacks of "branding."

Admitting reality doesn't necessitate being "woke" or whatever.

There's no question that health inequalities exist in this country, but I don't believe for a second they exist among racial divides. If anything, this seems to be a class problem. I can't imagine the people in the trailer park are any healthier than the people in the ghetto.

To your point, I knew a handful of black guys who wouldn't touch a COVID jab for the very reasons you cited. They knew their history and were very mistrustful of mRNA shots. Can't say I blame them, either. What was really interesting to me was the number of white people who were looking at the Tuskegee experiments to justify their refusal to get the jab, too. It's always good to see blacks and whites agreeing on something, but that one took me by surprise.

 

[Its On A Slab]

The simple fact nobody in the Democratic Party will come right out and run on that at a national level except Bernie Sanders (a two-time loser) tells you right there all you need to know about how well this strategy will work.


I don't disagree that the word "socialism" has been overused and in wrong contexts about as much as any other word in political language. That doesn't change the fact that the candidate who runs on that is going to get clobbered except in a limited universe of voters.

True. Running as a "socialist" is a non-starter with many. Because of semantics.

Yet the people who misuse the term, the people who make it a pejorative, many times(maybe most of the time) support government programs that they don't realize are PUBLIC, or they just ignore the fact that they depend upon a lot of what makes up the public sector.

But it's just like "dangerous, far-left" that you hear about and Democratic candidate. Just a way to try to scare people into believing nonsense.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

So from "say the name" to "don't say the name."
Got it.

Having said my cynical piece, the notion that most (probably all) of the modern Republicans who quote King would actually like him if he was an actively involved civil rights advocate today is laughable. Besides, my first inclination given his demonstrable history of plagiarism is to ask whom I should actually be citing for anything King ever wrote or said anyway.

That depends. Would King still be advocating that a man be judged by his character rather than the color of his skin? If so, he would definitely have a place among the modern right. If he went entirely in the opposite direction like the modern day professional victims, then yes, your point stands and he would be firmly entrenched among the left.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

True. Running as a "socialist" is a non-starter with many. Because of semantics.

It wouldn't be easy to pull off in this country regardless of semantics.
It's never worked, and it never will, because it stifles initiative.

Yet the people who misuse the term, the people who make it a pejorative, many times(maybe most of the time) support government programs that they don't realize are PUBLIC, or they just ignore the fact that they depend upon a lot of what makes up the public sector.

The question arises as to what exactly constitutes socialism, though. That there are socialistic aspects of the generational contract for something like Social Security, I agree. That there are many voters with zero idea as to how any government program works, and it does come down to the wording of the question sometimes.

I would hasten to add, however, "socialism" isn't the only word that triggers nor is wide open to mean whatever someone wants it to mean at any given time. Saying anything negative about a black person AT ANY TIME opens you to the charge of being a "racist," regardless of the accuracy of the criticism. Same with "sexist" or "homophobe."

But it's just like "dangerous, far-left" that you hear about and Democratic candidate. Just a way to try to scare people into believing nonsense.

Yeah, fortunately the Democratic Party will not try "X is EVEN WORSE than Trump," after telling me the last decade that Trump is the worst ever. Just like Nixon was.Just like Reagan was. Just like Dubya was. (The same people talking about their Mitt Romney love NOW called him a racist/sexist in 2012).

De Santis from leftist HuffPo

DeSantis isn't Trump but he's still an Autocrat - Vanity Fair

And this is predictable. EVERY Republican who follows Trump is going to be "worse than Trump" because that's what ALWAYS happens.

It isn't "just" the right who does this.

 

[92tide]

well, at least the grownups are piping in

Republicans ask Donald Trump to revoke Zohran Mamdani's citizenship

Zohran Mamdani won the Democratic primary for the 2025 New York mayoral election.

www.newsweek.com

The New York Young Republican Club (NYYRC) has called on the federal government to strip Zohran Mamdani of his citizenship and deport him.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

well, at least the grownups are piping in

Republicans ask Donald Trump to revoke Zohran Mamdani's citizenship

Zohran Mamdani won the Democratic primary for the 2025 New York mayoral election.

www.newsweek.com

The New York Young Republican Club (NYYRC) has called on the federal government to strip Zohran Mamdani of his citizenship and deport him.

Rolls eyes.....

 

[selmaborntidefan]

And we have some data here....

New research shows Trump’s 2024 support became more ethnically and racially diverse | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump’s 2024 victory over former Vice President Kamala Harris was fueled by “a voter coalition that was more racially and ethnically diverse than in 2020 or 2016,” as well by an advantage among voters who didn’t turn out for the previous election...

Now - Team Red is going to focus on the first part. Team Blue is going to dismiss the first part by focusing solely on the second part. I think one of the problems is the simple reality that in 2020 you really did have a "life or death" election, people were at home living/fearing it every single day. It was easier to fixate on or worry about for whom you should vote. The FACT is that 65.3% of Americans who could vote did vote in 2024, the third highest turnout (percentage-wise) since 1992. Of course, the turnout in pre-1996 elections was also low (they had a big time "it's turning around" when Perot-Clinton-Bush got a "whopping" 55% of the voters participating in 1992).

It seems to me this turns on an important question: is the explosion in Hispanic and ESPECIALLY black voters unique to Donald Trump? Or is it a realignment of a base from which the GOP can build in 2028 and beyond?

 

[75thru79]

well, at least the grownups are piping in

Republicans ask Donald Trump to revoke Zohran Mamdani's citizenship

Zohran Mamdani won the Democratic primary for the 2025 New York mayoral election.

www.newsweek.com

The New York Young Republican Club (NYYRC) has called on the federal government to strip Zohran Mamdani of his citizenship and deport him.

At least he hasn't been shot at....yet.

 

[Its On A Slab]

The question arises as to what exactly constitutes socialism, though. That there are socialistic aspects of the generational contract for something like Social Security, I agree. That there are many voters with zero idea as to how any government program works, and it does come down to the wording of the question sometimes.

My Dad retired from Merck(formerly with Schering-Plough) as a pharmaceutical rep. He could rail on and on about "socialized medicine".

When my Mom got sick, he gushed effusively about how great Medicare was. I didn't have the heart at that time to ask him, "But, Dad, isn't THAT socialized medicine?"

 

[selmaborntidefan]

That depends. Would King still be advocating that a man be judged by his character rather than the color of his skin? If so, he would definitely have a place among the modern right.

Guy who advocated affirmative action and still would?

Everyone citing one cherry picked fragment of his entire work needs to stop with the bumper sticker mentality. It's not that it's wrong so much as it's incomplete.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

And a seat that the Democrats absolutely have to win in 2026 to flip the Senate just got a little bit easier thanks to……You Know Who….

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/29/politics/thom-tillis-not-seeking-reelection

Sen. Thom Tillis announces he’s not seeking reelection, a day after voting against Trump’s agenda bill

 

[Huckleberry]

Thom Tillis’s retirement is an ominous sign for the GOP

Trump's big bad bill is already damaging the party.

www.publicnotice.co

Thom Tillis’s retirement is an ominous sign for the GOP
Trump's big bad bill is already damaging the party.

 

[92tide]

fwiw

‘Holy Grail reform’: California passes major overhaul of CEQA

California lawmakers on Monday passed some of the most significant changes to the state’s environmental review law since its inception.

www.sfchronicle.com

SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom and California lawmakers on Monday enacted some of the most significant changes to the state’s environmental review law since its inception that supporters say will lessen a major barrier to building housing and which the governor called “Holy Grail reform.”
Reforming the state’s landmark environmental law, the California Environmental Quality Act, has been discussed for years, but has proven to be particularly challenging because the law has staunch supporters among powerful environmental and labor groups. Despite many attempts by the Legislature to speed up housing construction, California home production remains stubbornly slow, something that has dogged Newsom.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Between Mamdani and Fetterman, flailing Democrats seek a populist agenda that works

In an era when populism keeps gaining momentum, Democratic insiders habitually turn to political has-beens to rescue the party — dooming them to national defeat.

nypost.com

Zohran Mamdani is the latest sign establishment Democrats don’t know how to handle a populist challenge.

They haven’t learned anything from the defeats right-wing populism inflicted on them with President Donald Trump.

Now they’re knocked on their backsides by a new generation of left-wing populism in their own party

Cuomo didn’t take Mamdani’s challenge seriously enough — but then, top Democrats didn’t take voters seriously enough when they got behind Cuomo in the first place.

He was damaged goods as well as yesterday’s news, a man who’d left the governor’s mansion in disgrace four years ago.

The only way center-left Democrats will avoid this kind of debacle in the future is if they end their recycling program for Clintons, Bidens, Cuomos and Weiners and figure out what a mainstream Democratic populism in the 21st century might look like.

Anybody with a thimble's worth of sense knows exactly what it looks like. It's all about getting the blue-collars to buy what you're selling.

Yes, this is an editorial, but it echos what many of us here have been saying since November. The left is desperate for their own brand of populism, but man, they have really sucked at seeing the obvious. And now they want to try the Sanders thing again as a test run in New York? How on earth is that going to give you a snapshot of what the country will do in the next general? (Rhetorical question, I know.)

The Republicans aren't particularly adept at taking power; usually they give it away with nary a whimper. It appears to me that Dems saw this and decided that it was a good thing to emulate. Then Trump gets elected and all hell breaks loose because he intends to be proactive. Neither the neolib Dems nor the neocon Reps seem to know what to do about it. (They do seem annoyed to be expected to do something besides getting paid and shouting at one another across the aisle. It was a decent gig while it lasted.)

 

[81usaf92]

So from "say the name" to "don't say the name."
Got it.

Having said my cynical piece, the notion that most (probably all) of the modern Republicans who quote King would actually like him if he was an actively involved civil rights advocate today is laughable. Besides, my first inclination given his demonstrable history of plagiarism is to ask whom I should actually be citing for anything King ever wrote or said anyway.

Honestly… too many people today don’t even know what Martin Luther King Jr did. Nor do they care to know.