Charlie Kirk Part III

[Bamabuzzard]

Charlie Kirk was little more to me than a person whose sound bites were regurgitated wholesale on Facebook and what little I knew were every bit as lacking in context from his own "side" as some of the selective quotations I see now from the "left." No, there's not going to be some sprouting of millions of little Charlie Kirks (unless he was rampantly cheating on his wife which, who knows?), he will be largely forgotten by Thanksgiving (Trump will ensure that except when he calls him forth as a mascot), and things will go on as they always have.

While I find some of the "glad he's dead" stuff a bit over the top, anyone who needed a tutorial in the scum that humanity really is must be living on a deserted island somewhere. At the same time, touting this guy like was going to be President is equally ridiculous. You don't get elected President having those kinds of debates with folks and letting everyone know what you REALLY think about most things.

No, Kirk was never going to be elected president because he didn't have the "gift" of not letting everyone know what he truly believed. That's why the average american (like you and me) could never be a politician or president. Because we don't have it in us to sit there and not ultimately say what we truly believe and play the game and hoola hoop exercise it takes to actually get elected by the masses. So it's probably a compliment to all of us, even Kirk.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

No, Kirk was never going to be elected president because he didn't have the "gift" of not letting everyone know what he truly believed. That's why the average american (like you and me) could never be a politician or president. Because we don't have it in us to sit there and not ultimately say what we truly believe and play the game and hoola hoop exercise it takes to actually get elected by the masses. So it's probably a compliment to all of us, even Kirk.

There's also the fact that he isn't a full-blown sociopath, which is pretty much a requirement to even WANT that job.

 

[Its On A Slab]

The clips I've seen from this political rally masquerading as a memorial service make me sad for his family. I'm glad his children aren't old enough to remember this. Funerals are supposed to comfort and encourage the family through Scripture, prayer, and the memories of the deceased. This service was more about the MAGA movement than anything else.

Well, I hope they shoot fireworks at my funeral, too.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Well, I hope they shoot fireworks at my funeral, too.

"I hope it rains at my funeral. For once I'd like to be the only one dry."
Tom T. Hall

 

[Its On A Slab]

"I hope it rains at my funeral. For once I'd like to be the only one dry."
Tom T. Hall

 

[Crimson1967]

Charlie Kirk was little more to me than a person whose sound bites were regurgitated wholesale on Facebook and what little I knew were every bit as lacking in context from his own "side" as some of the selective quotations I see now from the "left." No, there's not going to be some sprouting of millions of little Charlie Kirks (unless he was rampantly cheating on his wife which, who knows?), he will be largely forgotten by Thanksgiving (Trump will ensure that except when he calls him forth as a mascot), and things will go on as they always have.

While I find some of the "glad he's dead" stuff a bit over the top, anyone who needed a tutorial in the scum that humanity really is must be living on a deserted island somewhere. At the same time, touting this guy like was going to be President is equally ridiculous. You don't get elected President having those kinds of debates with folks and letting everyone know what you REALLY think about most things.

I think he will largely be forgotten in a few years. He may be trotted out at the midterms or Vance may tout their friendship in 2028. But there is only so much you can do with a ghost. He was just some guy who went around giving speeches at colleges. The fact many had never even heard of him says a lot. He didn’t hold political office and when new issues pop up we are left with “Charlie Kirk would have said…”, which is pretty worthless to me.

Turning Point will try to milk this for all it’s worth. I have heard they have a bunch of requests for new chapters on campuses. I didn’t even know Kirk was affiliated with them.

I saw his wife is going to be their new leader. That’s nice but unless she has the same gift of gab he did she’ll just be a pretty face like the woman who has made a fortune off tying for fifth with a guy at the NCAA swimming meet. Had she been a tick faster nobody knows who she is.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Nothing says true grief like selling merchandise at your funeral.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Nothing says true grief like selling merchandise at your funeral.

They're going to have to sell stuff at mine to pay for my funeral. With raising five kids, I may have a balance due on the plot.

 

[UAH]

I think he will largely be forgotten in a few years. He may be trotted out at the midterms or Vance may tout their friendship in 2028. But there is only so much you can do with a ghost. He was just some guy who went around giving speeches at colleges. The fact many had never even heard of him says a lot. He didn’t hold political office and when new issues pop up we are left with “Charlie Kirk would have said…”, which is pretty worthless to me.

Turning Point will try to milk this for all it’s worth. I have heard they have a bunch of requests for new chapters on campuses. I didn’t even know Kirk was affiliated with them.

I saw his wife is going to be their new leader. That’s nice but unless she has the same gift of gab he did she’ll just be a pretty face like the woman who has made a fortune off tying for fifth with a guy at the NCAA swimming meet. Had she been a tick faster nobody knows who she is.

In order to evaluate any individual that rises to prominance like JD Vance and Kirk it is important to understand where is the money and support coming from. Special interest groups identify the most charismatic individuals and funding comes to enable them to rise to prominance. This is a bit controversial to say the least to discuss exactly who supported Kirk but it is important to recognize that when anyone accepts the big dollars the opinions they share are carefully shaped. There is plenty of information out there on where Kirk's funding came from and it presents a deep swamp to climb into.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I think he will largely be forgotten in a few years. He may be trotted out at the midterms or Vance may tout their friendship in 2028. But there is only so much you can do with a ghost. He was just some guy who went around giving speeches at colleges. The fact many had never even heard of him says a lot. He didn’t hold political office and when new issues pop up we are left with “Charlie Kirk would have said…”, which is pretty worthless to me.

Paul Wellstone was a two-term Senator from Minnesota killed in a plane crash mere days before the 2002 midterm elections. He was the first "radical socialist liberal" (that we know of openly anyway) elected to the Senate, a pot smoking Jewish professor.

How many people do you think ever give Wellstone a thought outside of the state of Minnesota? And the ones there who do either worked for him or covered him in the media.

And he was actually a Senator for Pete's sake. His funeral got turned into a political pep rally (Al Franken can lie about it all he wants, it absolutely was), his seat went to Republican Norm Coleman, and well, Wellstone and his wife and daughter are six feet under and out of sight, out of mind.

Kirk's brutal demise will be removed from the internet and the effect will be "oh yeah, I remember him."
Which is what I say about the pathetic Braves pitching staff of 1979 but nobody but their families remembers most of them.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

They're going to have to sell stuff at mine to pay for my funeral. With raising five kids, I may have a balance due on the plot.

Reminds me of the show "One Day at a Time."

The girls' father (Ed, played by Joe Campanella) informed his ex-wife Ann Romano that his new wife had "the plot next to mine," and she noted that SHE had the plot next to him!

"Vicki's on the other side" deadpan was hilarious.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Kirk's brutal demise will be removed from the internet and the effect will be "oh yeah, I remember him."
Which is what I say about the pathetic Braves pitching staff of 1979 but nobody but their families remembers most of them.

Doubtful. Too many people saw that video, it's etched into a lot of people's memories.

Kirk may or may not be remembered, but those videos from multiple angles are on the internet forever.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

If I am ever publicly assassinated, please no fireworks, no trump, and please no politics.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Doubtful. Too many people saw that video, it's etched into a lot of people's memories.

Kirk may or may not be remembered, but those videos from multiple angles are on the internet forever.

Well, let me add that it'll be there but we'll wind up with a lot of censorship just like trying nowadays to find a copy of the Saddam Hussein hanging. So YEAH, it's out there but I surmise probably not as easily available as it was.

My fault for not being clear here.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Well, let me add that it'll be there but we'll wind up with a lot of censorship just like trying nowadays to find a copy of the Saddam Hussein hanging. So YEAH, it's out there but I surmise probably not as easily available as it was.

My fault for not being clear here.

It's probably a good thing that they scrub that kind of stuff from public viewing. I have seen more than my share of similar videos. The ISIS execution videos were the worst.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

If I am ever publicly assassinated, please no fireworks, no trump, and please no politics.

Can I sell my Garth Brooks Box sets and other 90's country CD's in the lobby?

 

[bamamc1]

I think he will largely be forgotten in a few years. He may be trotted out at the midterms or Vance may tout their friendship in 2028. But there is only so much you can do with a ghost. He was just some guy who went around giving speeches at colleges. The fact many had never even heard of him says a lot. He didn’t hold political office and when new issues pop up we are left with “Charlie Kirk would have said…”, which is pretty worthless to me.

Turning Point will try to milk this for all it’s worth. I have heard they have a bunch of requests for new chapters on campuses. I didn’t even know Kirk was affiliated with them.

I saw his wife is going to be their new leader. That’s nice but unless she has the same gift of gab he did she’ll just be a pretty face like the woman who has made a fortune off tying for fifth with a guy at the NCAA swimming meet. Had she been a tick faster nobody knows who she is.

Today, Turning Point USA says it has chapters in 3,500 high schools and college campuses, 250,000 students as members, and an annual budget of around $80 million. The group said in a Sept. 18 social media post they have recieved more than 62,000 requests from high school and college students since Kirk's shooting, requesting to start a new Turning Point USA chapter or get involved with an existing chapter.

 

[Bamaro]

As I watched the Charlie Kirk memorial, I found myself wrestling with these reflections.

In my lifetime, I don’t think I’ve ever seen something backfire so spectacularly as Tyler Robinson's actions. He thought he was striking a blow against "hate" by assassinating Charlie Kirk but in that twisted moment, he became the very monster he claimed to despise: the epitome of fascist violence, born from rage and delusion.

Instead of muting Kirk's voice, Robinson amplified it a millionfold. What was once a speaker on stage is now a martyr's echo, rallying millions who feel the sting of division in their own lives. His movement is exploding, not because of bullets, but because people see the raw truth: silencing dissent doesn't win hearts; it ignites them.

And that hate he unleashed? It didn't target just one man… it ricocheted straight back, fueling fresh waves of anger toward the echo chambers, the online radicals, and the parties peddling poison. We've all felt that burn: the late-night doomscroll that turns frustration into something darker, the impulse to lash out when words fail. But Robinson? He crossed the line, and now we're left staring at the wreckage.

Tyler Robinson isn't a villain from a movie… he's a total, tragic failure. A 22-year-old kid, radicalized in the shadows of screens, who bet everything on violence and lost it all. If you're out there right now, fists clenched, heart pounding with that same toxic brew of anger and despair... pause. Look at this. Really look. One shot didn't change the world… it just made it louder and angrier. Choose words over weapons. Choose bridges over bullets. Because in the end, the real power isn't in pulling a trigger… it's in rising above the noise and building a better future, together.

At 22 his pre-frontal cortex was probably not fully developed enough.

 

[Bamaro]

Charlie Kirk was little more to me than a person whose sound bites were regurgitated wholesale on Facebook and what little I knew were every bit as lacking in context from his own "side" as some of the selective quotations I see now from the "left." No, there's not going to be some sprouting of millions of little Charlie Kirks (unless he was rampantly cheating on his wife which, who knows?), he will be largely forgotten by Thanksgiving (Trump will ensure that except when he calls him forth as a mascot), and things will go on as they always have.

While I find some of the "glad he's dead" stuff a bit over the top, anyone who needed a tutorial in the scum that humanity really is must be living on a deserted island somewhere. At the same time, touting this guy like was going to be President is equally ridiculous. You don't get elected President having those kinds of debates with folks and letting everyone know what you REALLY think about most things.

Considering trump got re-elected, anything is now possible.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

At 22 his pre-frontal cortex was probably not fully developed enough.

At 22, mine wasn't either, and there were things I got plenty mad at during that time. But not once did I ever have the inclination of doing what this mentally sick kid did.