Link: Aubarn whines about "hideout" trick play to the SEC

[colbysullivan]

Sorry but this is ridiculous.

Limp or no limp, you don't ASSUME the guy is gonna sub out. And if you do assume that, then you're at fault for whatever happens on the play. It is the defense's job to account for 11 guys on the field.

What's next? We penalize a team when a player acts like he's the ball carrier but isn't? Deception plays have ALWAYS existed in football and the barn is simply mad because it was them who got burned this time.

It ain't much fun when the rabbit's got the gun.

The ridiculous part is trying it in the first place…and then getting away with it.

 

[uaintn]

I figure there is a 50/50 chance Freeze tries this before the season is over.

 

[rolltide7854]

I figure there is a 50/50 chance Freeze tries this before the season is over.

He's probably disappointed he didn't think of it before.

 

[PA Tide Fan]

He's probably disappointed he didn't think of it before.

I'm surprised that Malzahn didn't try it when he was at Auburn. It seems like a classic Malzahn play, and one to use in the IB.

 

[Tidewater]

The one thing I do find to be poetic justice is that the other wide receiver engaged the Auburn DBs in smack talk so they did not notice the "subbing" player did not actually sub out.

I still think the whole play is bush league which speaks poorly of the program. It about as ethical as using fishing line to trip an opposing DB during a game.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

The barn got jobbed on the missed calls against OU, especially the deceptive non-substitution that led to a TD. If it had been us getting jobbed, we'd be raising Cain too.

Still, Malzahn and Freeze based their whole offensive approach on making it hard for refs to enforce rules on substitutions, OL downfield, and control of the clock. And they won at least two games against us as a direct result.

So the irony is sweet enough to rot teeth.

 

[arthurdawg]

The one thing I do find to be poetic justice is that the other wide receiver engaged the Auburn DBs in smack talk so they did not notice the "subbing" player did not actually sub out.

I still think the whole play is bush league which speaks poorly of the program. It about as ethical as using fishing line to trip an opposing DB during a game.

Did the fishing line incident actually happen? Clever if so... what pound test do you need to bring down a cornerback vs. a safety? And I mean a good ole run stuffer like Barron!

 

[Tidewater]

Did the fishing line incident actually happen? Clever if so... what pound test do you need to bring down a cornerback vs. a safety? And I mean a good ole run stuffer like Barron!

Fishing line trick has not been used to my knowledge, but if it was tried, it would be bush league like hiding a subbing player on the sidelines. especially since that was the margin of victory.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

Would someone please explain just exactly what was illegal about the play. A high ranking law enforcement officer once told me, "If there is not a law against it, you can do it." So, what was the rule that make the play illegal?

Sorry but this is ridiculous.

Limp or no limp, you don't ASSUME the guy is gonna sub out. And if you do assume that, then you're at fault for whatever happens on the play. It is the defense's job to account for 11 guys on the field.

What's next? We penalize a team when a player acts like he's the ball carrier but isn't? Deception plays have ALWAYS existed in football and the barn is simply mad because it was them who got burned this time.

It ain't much fun when the rabbit's got the gun.

Rule 9-2 article 2-b (starts on the bottom of page FR-105 in the rule book):

Unfair Tactics

No simulated replacements or substitutions may be used to confuse opponents. No tactic associated with substitutes or the substitution process may be used to confuse opponents (Rule 3-5-2-e) (A.R. 9-2-2-I-VI). This includes any hideout tactic with or without a substitution

2025-NCAA-FB-Rule-Book.pdf


No offense to either of you, but it is clear as day on video that the player was simulating a substitution. He was casually walking at an angle away and backwards from the line of scrimmage and then stopped in the hashes right at the sideline. This is not a typical spot someone lines up, and it was clearly used as a tactic to confuse Auburn into thinking he was leaving the game. Which is against the rule shown above.

You can not like the rule all you want. We can all hate Auburn and love that it happened to them. But to say it was not against the rules is just denial at this point.