The November 4, 2025 National/State/Local Election Thread

[bamamc1]

Government bureaucracy is waste. It's just question of how much. NY likes a lot of it. And they are welcome to it. I had opportunities to work in NYC (and also the Bay Area). Hard pass.

It is interesting that the new mayor (shockingly) proposes more taxes to pay for his bread and circuses. Why not end some of the waste and divert that saved money to the next dumb program? No, it's always about raising taxes. Jealousy and free stuff.

This fool managed a staff of 10 employees. He now has 300,000 to manage. Good freaking luck.

 

[bamamc1]

LOL at the media calling winning like 5 elections a blue wave. Democrats overreact to every small victory and will probably learn the wrong lessons from this blue drip.

I’m so sick of the media trying to act like whatever happens in NYC matters to the rest of the country. Why the hell do I care who is mayor? They could elect a communist for all I care, ain’t gonna change anything for me in Montgomery, AL.

Democrats can’t get complacent, still a lot of work to do over the next year. No one nationally will remember these elections in a week, much less when the midterms come around.

They will be tied to Commie Mamdummy when this exercise fails (and it will). Good luck.

 

[bamamc1]

LOL at the media calling winning like 5 elections a blue wave. Democrats overreact to every small victory and will probably learn the wrong lessons from this blue drip.

I’m so sick of the media trying to act like whatever happens in NYC matters to the rest of the country. Why the hell do I care who is mayor? They could elect a communist for all I care, ain’t gonna change anything for me in Montgomery, AL.

Democrats can’t get complacent, still a lot of work to do over the next year. No one nationally will remember these elections in a week, much less when the midterms come around.

We’ve had one poster talking about the “fecal show” it’s been since Trump was elected. Has she forgotten the “fecal show” from the president auto pen and the absolute disaster that was? Maybe just have an Afghanistan withdrawal and a minor incursion into Ukraine. The nerve.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

By the way - can we dispense once and for all with the "Kamala Harris lost because she was a woman" nonsense? Two high profile women who were far better qualified for their offices than she was won states by far more points than she did. And none of them got to bypass the electorate in a primary, they actually had to win.

NEW JERSEY
Sherill +13
Harris +6

VIRGINIA
Spanberger +15
Harris +5.8

Not a soul who uses the "she lost because racism/sexism" excuse for 2024 would dare say that's why Winsome "Lose Some" Sears lost.

And the same narrative holds. Trump increased in (IIRC) 49 states last year over 2020, and Spanberger in particular increased HER margins everywhere in the state of VA.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

LOL at the media calling winning like 5 elections a blue wave. Democrats overreact to every small victory and will probably learn the wrong lessons from this blue drip.

I’m so sick of the media trying to act like whatever happens in NYC matters to the rest of the country. Why the hell do I care who is mayor? They could elect a communist for all I care, ain’t gonna change anything for me in Montgomery, AL.

Democrats can’t get complacent, still a lot of work to do over the next year. No one nationally will remember these elections in a week, much less when the midterms come around.

You must be new around here.

Just remember something: within four weeks, these elections of blue states and cities electing blue candidates will turn into referendums on abortion. Today you're hearing about how they won because the economy - but give it just a bit and we'll be back to abortion.

Now having said that, though - and I'd be hard-pressed to say anything is a "blue wave" at this point - Democrats broke the supermajority in the Senate in Mississippi, too. Yeah, the GOP still controls, but for Team Blue in a red state that's progress. Georgia voted in a PSC as well, and as I noted above, 21 communities in Connecticut flipped from red to blue - although we should also note that a New England Republican is usually several degrees to the left of a North Carolina Democrat.

I'm starting to think the whole "NYC Mayor" thing is a relic of the days when the media was all centered in NYC and would tout candidates from New York State (most notably Nelson Rockefeller and John V. Lindsay) as the next Presidential candidate. But those days are reaching the point of ancient history, too. Remember when Rudy Giuliani, Mario Cuomo, and Hillary Clinton were all the next campaign superstar? Same with AOC.

Funny how Alphonse D'Amato's name never came up for President despite him being a senator there for 18 years.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

We’ve had one poster talking about the “fecal show” it’s been since Trump was elected. Has she forgotten the “fecal show” from the president auto pen and the absolute disaster that was?

It's going to be delicious in the coming years when we learn Donald Trump, the World's Greatest Hypocrite, himself was using an autopen. Don't be shocked when you learn it - it's par for the course for him.

Besides - Trump (who people pretend is better in their minds) just pardoned a guy he insists "I don't know who he is." (And save me the usual libretto of the Trump defenders - fake news, he was just kidding, TDS, and all the other piles of excuses the battered voters have for the abusive male).

Maybe just have an Afghanistan withdrawal and a minor incursion into Ukraine. The nerve.

Or fail to manage even the basics of a pandemic and then invent a vaccine that kills even more.

The nerve of Joe Biden as President in 2020 doing that!!!

 

[Its On A Slab]

Has anyone else noticed that Mandami won for the same reason Trump did a year ago? And does that take some of the shine off this win for the Dems? I'm pretty sure most of the people who voted for this guy weren't really buying what he was selling. I think they are so sick of the establishment loser-think, they were ready for an alternative....literally ANY alternative.

And this isn't just the poors, this includes nearly everyone who isn't rich. We're losing ground in the wages vs inflation battle. Social Security and Medicare aren't safe. Our pensions aren't safe. Everything feels like we are hanging precariously over a canyon, with nothing but a string of dental floss holding us up. When there are no reasonable options, I guess we're left with only unreasonable ones with which to choose.

Anyway, I was just sitting here pondering how Trump haters and Trump supporters are so much alike it's hard to tell them apart until they start screaming at one another and that's when it hit me that even though this is not a presidential election, it is still very much a desperation move that reminds me a lot of a year ago.

I would never take the results that crazy city's elections as a bellwether for anything nationally. It is its own crazy world. The boroughs are so big they function as mini-states..

There is always a clown in the mayor's office. Well, in some way, that's a reflection of what we have at 1600 Penn Avenue.

 

[bamamc1]

It's going to be delicious in the coming years when we learn Donald Trump, the World's Greatest Hypocrite, himself was using an autopen. Don't be shocked when you learn it - it's par for the course for him.

Besides - Trump (who people pretend is better in their minds) just pardoned a guy he insists "I don't know who he is." (And save me the usual libretto of the Trump defenders - fake news, he was just kidding, TDS, and all the other piles of excuses the battered voters have for the abusive male).




Or fail to manage even the basics of a pandemic and then invent a vaccine that kills even more.

The nerve of Joe Biden as President in 2020 doing that!!!

Biden Mandates Vaccines for Workers, Saying, ‘Our Patience Is Wearing Thin’ (Published 2021)

Initially reluctant to enact mandates, the president is now moving aggressively to require vaccination as the Delta variant races across the country.

www.nytimes.com

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I would never take the results that crazy city's elections as a bellwether for anything nationally. It is its own crazy world. The boroughs are so big they function as mini-states..

There is always a clown in the mayor's office. Well, in some way, that's a reflection of what we have at 1600 Penn Avenue.

This has to be one of my favorite ones. Tip O'Neill is credited with the phrase that the reason voters could at the same time elect a HARD RIGHT conservative like Reagan and a RESPECTABLE BUT TO THE LEFT Congress like Reagan had was because "all politics is local."

If that's true, why do media types every damn cycle try and tell us that there's some hidden significance in the elections?

Here's the one thing I'll endorse: Presidential elections involving incumbents ALWAYS are referendums on the incumbent, and the rest doesn't matter. Hillary replacing Obama in 2016 was NOT NECESSARILY a referendum on Obama, but Trump running for re-election in 2020 was 100% one on him.

Fill in any other name of any incumbent and you find the same thing. 1932 on Hoover, all of FDR's elections, 1948 for Truman, 1956 for Ike, 1972 for Nixon, 1984 for Reagan, 1992 for Bush, 1996 for Clinton, 2004 for Dubya, and 2012 for Obama.

 

[92tide]

I would never take the results that crazy city's elections as a bellwether for anything nationally. It is its own crazy world. The boroughs are so big they function as mini-states..

There is always a clown in the mayor's office. Well, in some way, that's a reflection of what we have at 1600 Penn Avenue.

seems like one of the main reasons the nyc election was such a “big deal” was due to the streisand effect because so many folks were clutching their pearls about “zomg millennial radical muslin sociamalistic leftist”

i imagine if dems even lost one of these elections most of the “no big deal” thoughts would be “dems are in big trouble”

 

[selmaborntidefan]

i imagine if dems even lost one of these elections most of the “no big deal” thoughts would be “dems are in big trouble”

Yes, because a Democrat losing IN A DEMOCRATIC CITY OR STATE is, in fact, quite a big deal - just like if Doug Jones beat Kay Ivey head-to-head in an Alabama gubernatorial election would be a huge deal.

While I question the level of validity on some aspects of it, what cannot be denied is that a Democrat did get elected in GA and the party did make some gains in MS. And we can say what we want, but a Democrat IS replacing a Republican in Virginia as governor.

 

[Huckleberry]

Yes, because a Democrat losing IN A DEMOCRATIC CITY OR STATE is, in fact, quite a big deal - just like if Doug Jones beat Kay Ivey head-to-head in an Alabama gubernatorial election would be a huge deal.

While I question the level of validity on some aspects of it, what cannot be denied is that a Democrat did get elected in GA and the party did make some gains in MS. And we can say what we want, but a Democrat IS replacing a Republican in Virginia as governor.

The margins of victory are significant as well. Democratic candidates outpaced Harris’ percentages in almost every Virginia county, red or blue.

 

[Its On A Slab]

I bit all of my fingernails off worrying about that razor-thin margin in the NJ Gov's race.

She mopped the floor with her challenger. Another example of the 24/7's trying create a story that wasn't there in the 1st place.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

The margins of victory are significant as well. Democratic candidates outpaced Harris’ percentages in almost every Virginia county, red or blue.

Which tells us all we need to know about Harris. The Dems are insane if they try to push this idiot to the front of the line in 3 years.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

I would never take the results that crazy city's elections as a bellwether for anything nationally. It is its own crazy world. The boroughs are so big they function as mini-states..

There is always a clown in the mayor's office. Well, in some way, that's a reflection of what we have at 1600 Penn Avenue.

A fair enough point, but he will still be media fodder regardless. They will skip right past all the good things he does. For instance, I'll be shopkeepers in NYC are ecstatic that theft and other similar crimes are about to drop like a brick. Why steal when everything is going to be free?

 

[Huckleberry]

Which tells us all we need to know about Harris. The Dems are insane if they try to push this idiot to the front of the line in 3 years.

I absolutely do not want Harris anywhere near the ticket in 2028. I can name two dozen candidates I’d prefer over her - something I could have done in 2020 as well.

 

[Tidewater]

Because of his abrasive style, Trump remains extremely unpopular with suburban women and Virginia has a lot of them in Northern Virginia, the Tidewater, and Richmond suburbs.
Republicans can still win in Virginia, but it takes a pretty big Democrat mis-step for Democrats to lose. Democrats screwed up pretty big in 2021 and then doubled down on it and rode that mistake to defeat. Spanberger ran a relatively clean campaign this year.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Because of his abrasive style, Trump remains extremely unpopular with suburban women and Virginia has a lot of them in Northern Virginia, the Tidewater, and Richmond suburbs.
Republicans can still win in Virginia, but it takes a pretty big Democrat mis-step for Democrats to lose. Democrats screwed up pretty big in 2021 and then doubled down on it and rode that mistake to defeat. Spanberger ran a relatively clean campaign this year.

Hmmmm.....so what I'm hearing is that we should repeal the 19th.

 

[92tide]

Yes, because a Democrat losing IN A DEMOCRATIC CITY OR STATE is, in fact, quite a big deal - just like if Doug Jones beat Kay Ivey head-to-head in an Alabama gubernatorial election would be a huge deal.

While I question the level of validity on some aspects of it, what cannot be denied is that a Democrat did get elected in GA and the party did make some gains in MS. And we can say what we want, but a Democrat IS replacing a Republican in Virginia as governor.

it was two democrats that were elected in georgia, there were two psc seats. one is for a full term and one is up for election again next year

 

[selmaborntidefan]

it was two democrats that were elected in georgia, there were two psc seats. one is for a full term and one is up for election again next year

Yeah, like you know more about what goes in Georgia than I do....