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Trump Attacks Iran, III

More comedy gold from Iranian media outlet-

Watch the moments of the American soldiers' descent to rescue the pilot, and what their fate turned out to be...

This is what really happens to our soldiers when they enter Iran... Iran simply targets American soldiers on the ground using drones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040923069351682386
 
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I turned 67 a few weeks ago.

I’m glad there are several things I probably won’t see the end of. I have no children, so succession isn’t an issue for me personally.

But I do feel for my nieces, nephews and their children.

For lots of reasons, some our fault, some simple demographics, and some the fallout from nobody being accountable for anything, they will inherit a mess.
 
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selmaborntidefan said:
I'm honestly not trying to pick apart your point here - and believe me, it's a popular belief or talking point or even (if you will) truth, but I'm curious as to what is meant by this. I know (for example) I heard it in church in the 1980s (especially), and it's also a claim of groups like the Tea Party AND Occupy Wall Street. But I'm not sure I agree with it, depending on what is meant by it. I'll even be intellectually honest about it and say I said it for years, but I'm just not convinced any longer that there's anything substantive to actually back it up. I wonder - and I'm talking to myself as much as anyone at this point - if it's more nostalgia than reality.




But I'm not sure why people actually think this, either. I know we can all put up a chart, I guess, to prove any point we want, but I don't think there's any comparison in living standards between 1975 and today that would suggest any of us want to go back to that. Yes, healthcare and college are more expensive - but on the whole (barring bumps like the Covid money print inflation period), everything else is less.

To begin with - not one of us had a $1200 I phone in 1975, which is pretty standard for anyone over about the age of 11 nowadays. Plus, the same chart that shows "middle class peaked in 1971" also shows its because more have moved UP and there are fewer in the bottom, but nobody ever wants to talk about that one.


I think Donald Trump got elected due to the simple fact America has done SO WELL that we have ceased (if we ever did) to take our Presidential elections (and others, too) SERIOUSLY. Honestly, who in their right minds can think with any rational thought, "You know, I think the born to a rich guy casino owner paper billionaire can relate to my struggles to meet a paycheck more than anyone else"?

Trump is the obvious end result of the modern primary system that closes off 80% of the electorate from choosing the nominees, voter anger at both parties (he wasn't seen at first as an actual Republican), and running against the one nominee with almost as much baggage as he had - enough anyway to see it as "they're both pompous New York-based elitists so".....



Again, I don't know. I, too, have a child and definitely am worried about his future or lack thereof.

But the part I'm not certain about is that this is any different than previously - except for the fact we're all interconnected.

I apologize if this comes off as preachy, I think we've interacted enough you know that's not my intent. But I'm curious as to what is meant.

That America has a larger - and yes, unsustainable deficit we must address - is agreed.

But why that is - largely - is because of taking care of more people who live longer, too. The right likes to make foreign aid and alleged benefits paid to illegals the bogeyman, but that's a mere drop in the bucket. The left likes to target the defense budget, but it still has nothing on entitlement programs, which upsets people when you use the word entitlement. And we could cut the defense budget to zero tomorrow - and we'd still have an insane amount of deficit and continuing debt.

We have more people living longer than ever before with better access to healthcare along with less poverty; yes, there's been a slight dip in life expectancy due to the run through from Covid. We have more air conditioning, ability to travel, access to music/arts/etc, and reasons to feel happy and blessed.


(Note: one of the things that has to be admitted happened is that prior to 1971, we are talking ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY of a white, male middle class. And what did happen was the spreading out of benefits to (for example) blacks and women, who became shareholders in the "rags to comfort not riches" aspect of the American Dream.

I'm not saying we have no problems. In fact, I'm not even disagreeing with you, I'm just curious because I hear it a lot.
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Your comments are always spot on, and I appreciate that you can present the conservative argument so well and sensibly.

Little time to respond as I have to get to the office, but talking to my kids and their generation's perspective and just reading broadly... I don't think it is so much that we've declined horribly, but the rest of the world has caught up some, and it seems like we have been hiking a rocky trail and may fall off the cliff if we aren't very careful... And I just don't see the wisdom of our political leaders being enough to carry us through, particularly with the current admin's grift and incompetence.

Inflation, spiraling debt, increasing authoritarianism, billionaires who think they should be royalty, the Feds ceding multiple large industries to China, damage to our international rep... Lots going on right now. And a job market that is tougher than appreciated with spiraling housing costs. Plenty of good stuff, but we will have tough choices ahead as we always do.
 
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4Q Basket Case said:
I turned 67 a few weeks ago.

I’m glad there are several things I probably won’t see the end of. I have no children, so succession isn’t an issue for me personally.

But I do feel for my nieces, nephews and their children.

For lots of reasons, some our fault, some simple demographics, and some the fallout from nobody being accountable for anything, they will inherit a mess.
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Having four of the little rug rats... I agree. A huge mess.
 
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I can’t tell the difference between the US and Iranian governments when they go to social media
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As I posted here the other day, it's hard to tell who is telling the truth when both sides do nothing but lie.

Also, crickets chirping over the obscene, profanity-laced Easter musings from Dear Leader? I would love for one of his cheerleaders here to "both-sides" it for me. Where are the dementia-obsessed now?
 
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Its On A Slab said:
As I posted here the other day, it's hard to tell who is telling the truth when both sides do nothing but lie.

Also, crickets chirping over the obscene, profanity-laced Easter musings from Dear Leader? I would love for one of his cheerleaders here to "both-sides" it for me. Where are the dementia-obsessed now?
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A supporter definitely isn’t going to criticize it.

A ‘I’m not a supporter…but’ won’t do it either though so your point stands anyway.

It’s a wide spread unexplainable phenomenon that exists from one end of the internet to another on all social media platforms.

I’m tempted to go back and look and the ‘Tan Suit’ discussion again and how that was an embarrassment.
 
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Iranian President Clarifies: That Whole 'Death to America' Was a Misunderstanding; 'We Really Meant Health to America!' • Genesius Times

Tehran, Iran – In a stunning diplomatic pivot that has left international observers reaching for...
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Tehran, Iran – In a stunning diplomatic pivot that has left international observers reaching for their calendars to confirm it’s not April 1st, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian announced Wednesday that the Islamic Republic’s long-standing chant of “Death to America” has been the victim of a massive translation error for over four decades.

“What we really meant,” Pezeshkian told a packed press conference while adjusting his tie with the nervous energy of a man who just remembered his Zoom background was still set to “Apocalyptic Sky,” “was ‘Health to America.’ It’s a simple mix-up. ‘Marg bar Amrika’ sounds a lot like ‘Mard bar Amrika’ if you have a cold and the wind is blowing the wrong way. We’ve been shouting wellness this entire time. Think of it as aggressive encouragement.”
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The U.S. State Department has scheduled emergency meetings to discuss the development, though one official was overheard muttering, “Great. Now we have to pretend to take this seriously until the next hostage crisis.”
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Huckleberry said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2041208837357621298

TRUMP: “The Iranians are animals. That’s why blowing up their bridges and power stations isn’t a war crime.”
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his base and many of his apologists are down with this in the name of jesus. those filthy heathen muslins are going to take over the world and force us all to live under shakira law if we don’t kill them first /s
 
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Huckleberry said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2041212119039857126

Hegseth: You see, shot down on a Friday. Good Friday. Hidden in a cave, all of Saturday. And rescued on Sunday, Easter Sunday. A pilot reborn.





This guy is nuts.
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Back when I was a kid saying GD and comparing anything to the resurrection of Jesus would have you thrown out of the church.

If there is anything you can say about either party, is they have progressively exploited their base voters. Literally nothing our politicians do is beyond shame, even pedophilia...
 
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Hegseth: You see, shot down on a Friday. Good Friday. Hidden in a cave, all of Saturday. And rescued on Sunday, Easter Sunday. A pilot reborn.

This guy is nuts.
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Yes, I see.

Trump, five letters.
Jesus, five letters.

Can't be a coincidence, right?
Not like Obama having five letters.
Or Biden having five letters.

What's so damned funny is if this was a Democratic administration's loose canon actually saying this, the very same right-wing nutbags who are fawning would screaming, "Blasphemy!"


The left wouldn't, of course, they'd cringe because they're all godless.
 
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Pentagon’s new plans in Iran give Trump a way out of war crime accusations​


The Pentagon is expanding a list of Iranian energy sites it can target for attacks to include ones that provide fuel and power to both civilians and the military, a likely workaround if the administration is accused of war crimes for striking basic infrastructure.

War planners are revising the list, according to two defense officials, as American and Israeli warplanes search for new targets after five weeks of around-the-clock strikes on military sites and U.S. ground troops surge into the region. The dual-use nature of the targets would make them legitimate, the officials said.
 
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92tide said:
The dual-use nature of the targets would make them legitimate, the officials said.
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This is not entirely true, but MAGA and the not Trumpers will latch onto it and proclaim his innocence.

I was curious about war crimes so I have been doing some internet research for a few days. Most things I have read have said that yes, dual use infrastructure can be a target and not be a war crime. Unless the destruction of that target would cause more harm to civilians than the military, then it can still be considered a war crime.


My conclusion, if you have been claiming for weeks to be freeing Iranians of this nasty regime, maybe don’t start taking out their power and water supplies. Talk of taking out “the entire country” or calling them animals isn’t going to help the Iranian people either.

Trump really doesn’t care about them though, they are a means to an end right now. If they outlive their usefulness, Trump will not think twice about hurting them.
 
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