2-inch toy lego gun almost gets boy suspended

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Another zero-common sense policy.

An irate Staten Island mom blasted a grade school principal Wednesday for treating her son like a pint-sized Plaxico Burress after he brought a 2-inch-long toy gun to school.

"This principal is a bully and a coward, and needs to be held accountable," said Laura Timoney, 44, after her teary fourth-grader was nearly suspended for playing with the tiny toy at lunch.

"The school should be embarrassed. This is a common-sense issue."

Patrick Timoney, 9, was terrified when he was yanked into the principal's office to discuss the teeny-weeny plastic "weapon."

"The gun was so little," the boy said. "I don't understand why the principal got so upset. I was a little nervous. They made me sign a statement."
Laura Timoney fumes after son Patrick, 9, is busted for bringing 2-inch-long toy gun to PS 52
 

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I can so see my 9 y.o. doing that. The boy is a lego fanatic.

It sounds like the school decided to back down, so now mom needs to chill out.
 

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I can so see my 9 y.o. doing that. The boy is a lego fanatic.

It sounds like the school decided to back down, so now mom needs to chill out.
No, she doesn't. This same stupidity occurs way too often. But then again, you have bureaucrats in power you get stupidity. It happened so often in Katy, that a group of parents actually formed a coalition and finally beat the school board into submission to reverse some of the zero tolerance stupidity...like kids bringing aspirin or tylenol to school. Or a boy who brought a pocket knife to school, realized he had it and went to the office on his own and turned it in, and got suspended. Pure stupidity by the administration.
 

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No, she doesn't. This same stupidity occurs way too often. But then again, you have bureaucrats in power you get stupidity. It happened so often in Katy, that a group of parents actually formed a coalition and finally beat the school board into submission to reverse some of the zero tolerance stupidity...like kids bringing aspirin or tylenol to school. Or a boy who brought a pocket knife to school, realized he had it and went to the office on his own and turned it in, and got suspended. Pure stupidity by the administration.
She's considering suing. She should sue because her boy was called into the principals office and the issue was dropped?
 

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I got kicked out of daycare once for have a very small pocket knife. I think I was 5 or 6. Come to think of it, they never gave it back.....
 

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She's rightly ticked about her child being bullied by the principle. If a principle did this to my daughter they're liable to have to call security or the police on me.
Oh, I'd definetly be ticked. The whole thing is stupid. But suing, really?
 

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Just to be clear - the family is from the NY Metro area. They will sue. They are just blowing it up as much as they can to force a sizable settlement.

The principle needs to be fired, but there are no damages here. But, in this part of the country, people are constantly on the lookout for an opportunity to sue someone for something...
 

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There goes some more money from the taxpayers in a frivolous law suit.
 

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Just to be clear - the family is from the NY Metro area. They will sue. They are just blowing it up as much as they can to force a sizable settlement.

The principle needs to be fired, but there are no damages here. But, in this part of the country, people are constantly on the lookout for an opportunity to sue someone for something...
Why should the principal be fired? As far as I can tell she just enforced the rules. Don't get me wrong zero tolerance rules are asinine and ineffective, but they are the rules. She enforced them as written. Change the rules!

I doubt this boy was terrorized in the manner his mother seems to think he was. For any 9 year old (especially a good kid) going to the principals office is scary. I doubt they tortured him.

Listen, a stupid rule is still a rule (seatbelt law). The principal did nothing worng in this stiuation. In fact, she is getting criticized for following the book. The kid wasn't suspended or even punished. No harm no foul.

You can call out "common sense" all you want, but when it comes to people's kids "common sense" will get you fired, but following the book covers your ....
 

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"The gun was so little," the boy said. "I don't understand why the principal got so upset. I was a little nervous. They made me sign a statement."


This is what we pay our taxes for? For stupid government administrators to take a flying leap into the depths of stupidity?

I would have given the principal my statement, all right. It would have said: "If you ever do something that stupid to my child again, I'm going to kick you so hard, and you're going to fly so far, that you're going to need a plane ticket and a passport to get back." :mad:
 

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Why should the principal be fired? As far as I can tell she just enforced the rules...
Sorry, people in leadership positions like this are expected to use their judgment in the application of rules and regulations. IMO, this person has demonstrated that she is incapable of sound judgment. No person incapable of sound judgment should be allowed to have this much influence over this many children.

If I were the father of this boy, I would be looking to get the principal removed, and using the threat of a significant law suit to accomplish that. Once the principal was removed, I would drop the suit...
 

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Why should the principal be fired? As far as I can tell she just enforced the rules. Don't get me wrong zero tolerance rules are asinine and ineffective, but they are the rules. She enforced them as written. Change the rules!

You can call out "common sense" all you want, but when it comes to people's kids "common sense" will get you fired, but following the book covers your....
There comes a point when enforcing the rules as written is ridiculous. It is illegal, and punishable by death, to put salt on a railroad track in Alabama. ENFORCE THAT LAW! YEAH!

This is a principle at a elementary school. There is no way in heck that she would have gotten fired or disciplined for letting the kid play with his lego toy at lunch, instead of dragging him to the principles office and lecturing him on 'weapons' and threatening suspension. We would have never heard about this lady, or the school. Ever. That said, yes, it is stupid to file a lawsuit over this, and the principle should not be fired. I am sure that with all this public outrage, she will never confiscate a toy again, lol.

BTW, this kid isn't very smart. My 9yr old brother knows that toys are prohibited at school, so instead of lego or army men he takes a giant box of pencil erasers. He has battles with them at school with his friends. That way they can't be confiscated because they are 'school supplies'. :rofl:
 

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BTW, this kid isn't very smart. My 9yr old brother knows that toys are prohibited at school, so instead of lego or army men he takes a giant box of pencil erasers. He has battles with them at school with his friends. That way they can't be confiscated because they are 'school supplies'. :rofl:
Nice. I made a deck of cards during arts and crafts in elementary school. HAd a good game of gin going before the teacher noticed.
 

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I remember one time in Jr High my buddy accidentally brought a .30-06 cartridge to school in his backpack. Boy, that was funny watching the teachers search lockers for his rifle after he voluntarily turned it in.
 

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I can understand the principal "following the rules," but one would hope that at some point a school principal would have the backbone to use his or her own common sense when enforcing a rule rather than just mindlessly going by the book.

Just makes me happy to live in a state where my kids' school district hasn't lapsed into the whole politically correct group-think that so much of the rest of the country has. Down here they still call it Christmas and Easter rather than "the Winter Holidays" or "Spring Holiday." They still have prayer before ballgames and if a kid in class has a peanut allergy he's taught not to eat the peanut butter, etc, that his classmates are eating (rather than having those products banned from the class altogether, for example). None of that "don't offend the minority" BS. I'm 99.9% positive, had this kid been enrolled in our school system, he'd have been brought to the front of the class for a little show & tell with his Lego gun, then told to put it back in his backpack and not bring it back to school.
 

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I remember one time in Jr High my buddy accidentally brought a .30-06 cartridge to school in his backpack. Boy, that was funny watching the teachers search lockers for his rifle after he voluntarily turned it in.
Heck, I remember deer rifles in gun racks in the school parking lot, large pocket knives that were no big deal to carry, and one guy having a pistol in his locker because he wanted to show it to a buddy. Granted, this was a rural HS in the late '80's. It was just a bunch of good old boys showing off toys and no one thought a thing of it that I can recall.
 

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Heck, I remember deer rifles in gun racks in the school parking lot, large pocket knives that were no big deal to carry, and one guy having a pistol in his locker because he wanted to show it to a buddy. Granted, this was a rural HS in the late '80's. It was just a bunch of good old boys showing off toys and no one thought a thing of it that I can recall.
Heh. My dad told me that he and his brother used to go squirrel hunting after basketball practice at Tuscaloosa High (black bears). To save time, they would bring their shotguns with them to practice and leave them in the gym. They'd be thrown in prison nowadays.