2026 Recruiting

Tideflyer

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Zero hope in it from me. lol I am more trying to understand why they are doing it. But looks like it’s just talk trying to settle their fans at the moment. I’m hopeful it all burns down and they finish behind vandy in recruiting.

I do believe NIL still has no cap so maybe they have a couple big NIL offers (not direct from school) waiting but even then can’t compete with likes of Aggies and UT and so on. But we can’t either. While it’s nice to have what schools can offer we need a lot of fixing with NIL still.
I would think the Yeller Feller would ride to the rescue………surely he’s not tapped out….???
 
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CrimsonTitles

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Is there any reason we just had a flurry of 4 and 5 star commitments and DROPPED in the On3 rankings to #5? We were at #3.

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We were #3 until Notre Dame landed Larry Fitzgerald's son, and A&M landed another guy too, both on Saturday. Rankings may not tell the full story this year, because a lot of teams will have so many more than we do. A lot of it will be skewed based on numbers.
 

TheRealPokeChop

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Is there any reason we just had a flurry of 4 and 5 star commitments and DROPPED in the On3 rankings to #5? We were at #3.

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We are 3 on 247 have been 5 on on3 since last commitment.

What youre looking at in that previously was 3 is LAST year's ranking. Last year, 2025 class, we finished 3rd on on3.

Not sure why they word it that way but they do. Took me time to figure that out.
 

TiderJack

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sanjosecrimson

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That is HIGHLY misleading!
The rankings constantly fluctuate with additions and subtraction as you know, but what is the most important indicator of a great class is the team average. Bama may be ranked #5 at the moment, but has the highest average than the four teams ahead of it. If you look at previous Bama classes, we always had the highest average among the top teams even when our classes were smaller than the rest. Quality over quantity indeed!
 

4Q Basket Case

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SJC -- You're giving a great example of the old saying, "Lies, damned lies and statistics."

I spent a good portion of my banking career in jobs that were highly dependent on exact definitions.

Depending on how you define a word, the numbers that quantify it can be materially different.

Regarding recruiting rankings: How do you weigh the players? Is it simply stars? Some 4 and 5-stars are rated higher than others, even within the star category.

Do you figure total stars? If so, you skew heavily toward larger classes. Do you figure average ranking per commitment? If so, you favor smaller classes with higher per capita quality, even if they don't have numbers.

Do you rank by position within the Top 300? Whose Top 300?

Do you count transfer portal additions? How do you handle juco transfers....or do you at all?

How do you handle players who reclassify and enter college after their junior year of high school ball?

How do you handle a player who signs in December and enrolls in school, but transfers in the spring -- looking at Julian Sayin here.

We could go forever on this. But the bottom line is that within a material amount of leeway, you can make recruiting classes look great -- or not so great -- simply by how you account for different sets of circumstances.

Side question: You're a manager interviewing for a position in your Accounting Department. You ask every candidate what 2 + 2 is. The vast majority say 4. Which one do you hire? You hire the one that says, "Oh...I don't know....what do you want it to be?"
 

some_al_fan

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SJC -- You're giving a great example of the old saying, "Lies, damned lies and statistics."

I spent a good portion of my banking career in jobs that were highly dependent on exact definitions.

Depending on how you define a word, the numbers that quantify it can be materially different.

Regarding recruiting rankings: How do you weigh the players? Is it simply stars? Some 4 and 5-stars are rated higher than others, even within the star category.

Do you figure total stars? If so, you skew heavily toward larger classes. Do you figure average ranking per commitment? If so, you favor smaller classes with higher per capita quality, even if they don't have numbers.

Do you rank by position within the Top 300? Whose Top 300?

Do you count transfer portal additions? How do you handle juco transfers....or do you at all?

How do you handle players who reclassify and enter college after their junior year of high school ball?

How do you handle a player who signs in December and enrolls in school, but transfers in the spring -- looking at Julian Sayin here.

We could go forever on this. But the bottom line is that within a material amount of leeway, you can make recruiting classes look great -- or not so great -- simply by how you account for different sets of circumstances.

Side question: You're a manager interviewing for a position in your Accounting Department. You ask every candidate what 2 + 2 is. The vast majority say 4. Which one do you hire? You hire the one that says, "Oh...I don't know....what do you want it to be?"
How many years are you planning to spend in jail if that is your hiring practices? :)
 
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sanjosecrimson

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SJC -- You're giving a great example of the old saying, "Lies, damned lies and statistics."

I spent a good portion of my banking career in jobs that were highly dependent on exact definitions.

Depending on how you define a word, the numbers that quantify it can be materially different.

Regarding recruiting rankings: How do you weigh the players? Is it simply stars? Some 4 and 5-stars are rated higher than others, even within the star category.

Do you figure total stars? If so, you skew heavily toward larger classes. Do you figure average ranking per commitment? If so, you favor smaller classes with higher per capita quality, even if they don't have numbers.

Do you rank by position within the Top 300? Whose Top 300?

Do you count transfer portal additions? How do you handle juco transfers....or do you at all?

How do you handle players who reclassify and enter college after their junior year of high school ball?

How do you handle a player who signs in December and enrolls in school, but transfers in the spring -- looking at Julian Sayin here.

We could go forever on this. But the bottom line is that within a material amount of leeway, you can make recruiting classes look great -- or not so great -- simply by how you account for different sets of circumstances.

Side question: You're a manager interviewing for a position in your Accounting Department. You ask every candidate what 2 + 2 is. The vast majority say 4. Which one do you hire? You hire the one that says, "Oh...I don't know....what do you want it to be?"
4Q,
This is a great and hilarious response from you. I appreciate the effort you put into it!
 

4Q Basket Case

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How many years are you planning to spend in jail if that is your hiring practices? :)
I was making a joke. But one that has a lot of truth in it.

The unvarnished truth is:

Accounting for asset valuation, and its impact on performance metrics, earnings and equity is dang complex. Especially when you get into distressed asset valuation. Then throw in whatever regulatory dictates, if any, might apply,.

There’s some skeezy stuff happening in every single publicly traded company. Most of it is small and on the margins, nudging judgment calls a basis point or two to make budget, analyst guidance, or incentive goals. Occasionally it gets big. Very occasionally, it rises to the level of fraud — too often taking place over multiple years, and audited by international-level accounting firms.

We all know about the Butcher brothers, Enron, WorldCom, HealthSouth, Signature Bank, et. al., accounting for CMOs, and accounting for securities.

Most people don’t know that the accounting for loans depends largely on who owns the loan. If it’s a regulated bank, one set of rules applies. If it’s a non-bank (whether they originated the loan themselves or bought it from a regulated institution), a wholly different set of rules applies.

Point being you can be entirely within GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles) and, depending on a laundry list of internal and external factors and judgment calls, have a range of perfectly justifiable presentations.

For anybody who thinks that 100% of the accounting for any public company would pass the smell test, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I need to unload. Cheap…you know, for tax purposes.

I’m sorry for hijacking the thread. Let’s get back to recruiting. If anybody wants to talk about how statistics and accounting can be shaded to tell whatever story the teller wants, let’s start a new thread over on Non-Sports.
 
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